Choosing and Evaluating Primary Schools
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Round 2B day 1 results are out not sure if calling the school will they advise <2km has exceeded the vacancies ?
Any fellow parents have tried calling the sch to check ? -
Lottisim\" post_id=\"2031922\" time=\"1627301499\" user_id=\"194046:
It's really up the to school to determine if they are willing to reveal the number but do bear in mind the figures are just preliminaries and are likely to move as the Phase progresses.
Round 2B day 1 results are out not sure if calling the school will they advise <2km has exceeded the vacancies ?
Any fellow parents have tried calling the sch to check ? -
F3parent\" post_id=\"2029281\" time=\"1625479041\" user_id=\"165232:
St.Margarets usually has space in 2CS as well, and its not too far from that general area
I mean the one near Nanyang Pri School. Cos was thinking they were talking about missing out on Nanyang so means she stay near Nanyang thus the one nearby.CALYNSEA\" post_id=\"2029277\" time=\"1625475222\" user_id=\"181903:
[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2029276 time=1625474934 user_id=53606]
There’s an affiliated primary:
https://stmargaretspri.moe.edu.sg/
otherwise catchment schools are usually BTPS and FPPS[/quote]Just saw this, apart from 2016 and 2019, SMPS usually does NOT have any spaces left in 2CS. https://elite.com.sg/228091
I believe 2019's intake was low because in 2020 the school would move to its temporary site in Mattar road and thus many shun it due to it being \"too far\" from its Wilkie road location for those living within 2Km from Wilkie road. Last year at 2C there was a ballot for non SC. -
floppy\" post_id=\"2030849\" time=\"1626444056\" user_id=\"97579:
Having affiliation is great, but having to travel 10km 5x a week for 6 years for affiliation benefit is not so great.Prchan\" post_id=\"2030827\" time=\"1626437295\" user_id=\"193880:
Hi am considering 2 options for my son. Seeking others opinions cos phase 2B is just round the corner. Should I forego PRPS and go for SSS as it has affiliations? Not sure if it’s a wise choice. Any opinions? My options:
1. Pasir Ris Primary School (phase2B) - distance within 1km
2. St stephens school (phase2C) - distance 10km
Thanks for advise! We are still thinking about this. Anyone knows how did PRPS did in PSLE 2020? -
Ministry of Education has changed its tune now? No more “every school a good school” but they admit and acknowledge that there’s a best fit school for each child?
Parliament: MPs want to see more efforts made to check on students’ mental health and bullying in schools
https://www.todayonline.com/node/12037816 -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2032018\" time=\"1627424715\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2032018 time=1627424715 user_id=53606]
I don’t think the Ministry has changed it’s tune. MOE focus has always been in providing quality education, and it has done well. The politicians, on the other hand…
Ministry of Education has changed its tune now? No more “every school a good school” but they admit and acknowledge that there’s a best fit school for each child?
Parliament: MPs want to see more efforts made to check on students’ mental health and bullying in schools
https://www.todayonline.com/node/12037816[/quote]
“Every school, a good school” may be an aspirational message, it was never a good one to begin with. Most people are well aware of the disparity in resources and quality in every school. MOE should be applauded for trying to move the leadership positions around the schools, but the principal isn’t able to overcome any structural shortcomings that the school has.
By the way, a “best fit” school is also a problematic message, especially for P1 registration. I don’t think anyone wants to be in a ill-fitting school, especially one where I don’t get to choose but landed up in, because all the “fit” schools have already been taken up. -
floppy\" post_id=\"2032021\" time=\"1627432092\" user_id=\"97579:
In the context of the article, I think it’s the other way. Rather than landing up in a 2CS school becos all the hot schools have been taken up, he was referring to parents enrolling kids into a hot school without considering if it’s the best fit for the child.
I don’t think the Ministry has changed it’s tune. MOE focus has always been in providing quality education, and it has done well. The politicians, on the other hand…zac's mum\" post_id=\"2032018\" time=\"1627424715\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2032018 time=1627424715 user_id=53606]Ministry of Education has changed its tune now? No more “every school a good school” but they admit and acknowledge that there’s a best fit school for each child?
Parliament: MPs want to see more efforts made to check on students’ mental health and bullying in schools
https://www.todayonline.com/node/12037816
“Every school, a good school” may be an aspirational message, it was never a good one to begin with. Most people are well aware of the disparity in resources and quality in every school. MOE should be applauded for trying to move the leadership positions around the schools, but the principal isn’t able to overcome any structural shortcomings that the school has.
By the way, a “best fit” school is also a problematic message, especially for P1 registration. I don’t think anyone wants to be in a ill-fitting school, especially one where I don’t get to choose but landed up in, because all the “fit” schools have already been taken up.[/quote]
But I get what you mean by we don’t always have a choice. Imagine if u have 4 kids and all different personality, u still have to use Phase 1 and stick with it for convenience of transport. Also if u have a sure-in 2A1 priority, u will still have to use it even if bad fit, Eg. If your next door school has crazy balloting at 2C.
Quote:
“Mr Chan said putting a child in a popular school may do more harm than good if it is a bad fit.” -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2032030\" time=\"1627441360\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2032030 time=1627441360 user_id=53606]
In the context of the article, I think it’s the other way. Rather than landing up in a 2CS school becos all the hot schools have been taken up, he was referring to parents enrolling kids into a hot school without considering if it’s the best fit for the child.floppy\" post_id=\"2032021\" time=\"1627432092\" user_id=\"97579:
I don’t think the Ministry has changed it’s tune. MOE focus has always been in providing quality education, and it has done well. The politicians, on the other hand…[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2032018 time=1627424715 user_id=53606]Ministry of Education has changed its tune now? No more “every school a good school” but they admit and acknowledge that there’s a best fit school for each child?
Parliament: MPs want to see more efforts made to check on students’ mental health and bullying in schools
https://www.todayonline.com/node/12037816
“Every school, a good school” may be an aspirational message, it was never a good one to begin with. Most people are well aware of the disparity in resources and quality in every school. MOE should be applauded for trying to move the leadership positions around the schools, but the principal isn’t able to overcome any structural shortcomings that the school has.
By the way, a “best fit” school is also a problematic message, especially for P1 registration. I don’t think anyone wants to be in a ill-fitting school, especially one where I don’t get to choose but landed up in, because all the “fit” schools have already been taken up.[/quote]
But I get what you mean by we don’t always have a choice. Imagine if u have 4 kids and all different personality, u still have to use Phase 1 and stick with it for convenience of transport. Also if u have a sure-in 2A1 priority, u will still have to use it even if bad fit, Eg. If your next door school has crazy balloting at 2C.
Quote:
“Mr Chan said putting a child in a popular school may do more harm than good if it is a bad fit.”[/quote]Parents mentality need to change first. putting kid into top schools (GEP, SAP, Branded) doesn't guarantee the child will do well at end of primary school education.
There are too many examples of pupils not doing well from these schools and ended up in N(A), N(T) as well as affiliates not making back to their affiliated secondary schools.
Until mindsets change, every year is a repeated story of the usual suspects heading into balloting as early as 2A1. -
Orb\" post_id=\"2032031\" time=\"1627441817\" user_id=\"25015:
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2032030\" time=\"1627441360\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2032030 time=1627441360 user_id=53606]
Parents mentality need to change first. putting kid into top schools (GEP, SAP, Branded) doesn't guarantee the child will do well at end of primary school education.
There are too many examples of pupils not doing well from these schools and ended up in N(A), N(T) as well as affiliates not making back to their affiliated secondary schools.
Until mindsets change, every year is a repeated story of the usual suspects heading into balloting as early as 2A1.\"Parents mentality need to change first. putting kid into top schools (GEP, SAP, Branded) doesn't guarantee the child will do well at end of primary school education. \"
While I hear what you say, I understand zac's mum issue as well.
I may not want to put my child in a GEP or SAP school because it \"doesn't fit\" (without even considering the personalities of multiple children). However, the nearby school that \"fit\" faces balloting at Phase 2C and is not a guaranteed whereas I have guaranteed placement in a GEP or SAP school at Phase 2A1 or 2A2. What are my options?
- Go for a \"fit\" school but may end up in a Phase 2CS school which also \"doesn't fit\" (or worst, unwanted); or
- Go for a \"doesn't fit\" school but without ballot? -
Orb\" post_id=\"2032031\" time=\"1627441817\" user_id=\"25015:
Due to the high costs of living in Singapore, parents nowadays seldom have 4 kids, unless they are from well to do family.
Parents mentality need to change first. putting kid into top schools (GEP, SAP, Branded) doesn't guarantee the child will do well at end of primary school education.zac's mum\" post_id=\"2032030\" time=\"162744:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2032030 time=162744]In the context of the article, I think it’s the other way. Rather than landichool becos all the hot schools have been taken up, he was referring to parents enrolling kids into a hot school without considering if it’s the best fit for the child.
But I get what you mean by we don’t always have a choice. Imagine if u have 4 kids and all different personality, u still have to use Phase 1 and stick with it for convenience of transport. Also if u have a sure-in 2A1 priority, u will still have to use it even if bad fit, Eg. If your next door school has crazy balloting at 2C.
Quote:
“Mr Chan said putting a child in a popular school may do more harm than good if it is a bad fit.”
There are too many examples of pupils not doing well from these schools and ended up in N(A), N(T) as well as affiliates not making back to their affiliated secondary schools.
Until mindsets change, every year is a repeated story of the usual suspects heading into balloting as early as 2A1.[/quote]
Commonly found in Singapore families are usually 2 kids, because having one child is just too lonely ! 2 is just nice, because siblings can talk and play together, keep each other company, not so lonely. Sometimes, families do have 3 kids too. Eg. In some Non-Chinese speaking families, where 3 is the minimum
For logistic purposes,
for families with 2 or 3 kids, is easier to enrol them into the same primary school. Eg. take the same school bus
If a child face difficulty coping in a highly stressed academic school, it makes sense for parents to transfer them out to a lesser known school, that is not so popular, less competitive.
However,
on the other hand, parents at times faced dilemma too.
Why ?
Because
Principal(s) of the \"Applied-Transfer-To \" schools sometimes do not want to consider nor accept students who are not doing well, in their originating schools,
even though
parents do want to transfer their child out, into lesser academic stressed schools. This is an issue, unless the Principal(s) of these schools are compassionate
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