All About Home Addresses
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parent_to_be\" post_id=\"2032148\" time=\"1627547128\" user_id=\"104008:
Frankly, it us by right and by left. So long u disnt rent out the unit, u shld be fine. No one will check whether u r staying there or not.[/quote]That's a risk that some are willing to take and some are not. Ultimately it all boil down to individual risk appetite.
Well I'm not so sure we can say parents can circumvent this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when floppy said \"As long as you keep the place for more than 30 months, are legal owners of the address / unit, and spend *some* time (even it's for the weekends only) at the registered address, you are good to go.\" is an assumption and not a fact?CALYNSEA\" post_id=\"2032135\" time=\"1627537673\" user_id=\"181903:
[quote=Orb post_id=2032125 time=1627527835 user_id=25015]
its amazing how parents can circumvent these. there are benefits to stay near a school (hence the criteria of <2km) not use it to get into a school and then stay far away.
And actually I don't think it's grey at all but that's my own 2 cents worth of interpretation, cos when I read \"...The family is expected to reside at the address for the duration of the child's primary school studies.\" I think it's quite clear you need to be staying there and not just spend some time there.
Obviously I could be wrong here.
I just think that you never know when the authorities will check. They could take action base on tip off and so on. Perhaps maybe our kids talk in school with their classmates...like I stay at place A during weekdays and place B over the weekend. And the classmate told their parents or teachers who somehow tip off the authorities who then conduct the check. Well maybe I overthink and my risk appetite is low. -
CALYNSEA\" post_id=\"2032151\" time=\"1627548568\" user_id=\"181903:
That's a risk that some are willing to take and some are not. Ultimately it all boil down to individual risk appetite.
Frankly, it us by right and by left. So long u disnt rent out the unit, u shld be fine. No one will check whether u r staying there or not.parent_to_be\" post_id=\"2032148\" time=\"1627547128\" user_id=\"104008:
[quote=CALYNSEA post_id=2032135 time=1627537673 user_id=181903]
Well I'm not so sure we can say parents can circumvent this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when floppy said \"As long as you keep the place for more than 30 months, are legal owners of the address / unit, and spend *some* time (even it's for the weekends only) at the registered address, you are good to go.\" is an assumption and not a fact?
And actually I don't think it's grey at all but that's my own 2 cents worth of interpretation, cos when I read \"...The family is expected to reside at the address for the duration of the child's primary school studies.\" I think it's quite clear you need to be staying there and not just spend some time there.
Obviously I could be wrong here.
I just think that you never know when the authorities will check. They could take action base on tip off and so on. Perhaps maybe our kids talk in school with their classmates...like I stay at place A during weekdays and place B over the weekend. And the classmate told their parents or teachers who somehow tip off the authorities who then conduct the check. Well maybe I overthink and my risk appetite is low.[/quote]During my child’s P1 a chap was kicked out as a result of a tip-off. You’ll be living on thetherhooks for 30 mths if u choose this route. Not a pleasant experience. What do we want to teach our kids? To find loopholes? To hide truths or half-truths? To keep a nervy suspicious stance when with schoolmates/teachers/parents and not able to enjoy true friendships? Tough road to travel. -
Estéema\" post_id=\"2032152\" time=\"1627549033\" user_id=\"66413:
During my child’s P1 a chap was kicked out as a result of a tip-off. You’ll be living on thetherhooks for 30 mths if u choose this route. Not a pleasant experience. What do we want to teach our kids? To find loopholes? To hide truths or half-truths? To keep a nervy suspicious stance when with schoolmates/teachers/parents and not able to enjoy true friendships? Tough road to travel.[/quote]I totally agree with you. Both on living on tenterhooks and not teaching our child the right value and also she need to be careful about what she say to her classmates and teachers.
That's a risk that some are willing to take and some are not. Ultimately it all boil down to individual risk appetite.CALYNSEA\" post_id=\"2032151\" time=\"1627548568\" user_id=\"181903:
[quote=parent_to_be post_id=2032148 time=1627547128 user_id=104008]
Frankly, it us by right and by left. So long u disnt rent out the unit, u shld be fine. No one will check whether u r staying there or not.
I just think that you never know when the authorities will check. They could take action base on tip off and so on. Perhaps maybe our kids talk in school with their classmates...like I stay at place A during weekdays and place B over the weekend. And the classmate told their parents or teachers who somehow tip off the authorities who then conduct the check. Well maybe I overthink and my risk appetite is low. -
Sometimes the child does not even need to say anything. If parent signs up for school bus service and the bus picks up from an address >>1km every morning Mon-Fri, it’s pretty obvious where the child lives/resides. The school will probably investigate.
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I am shocked at some of the incorrect “answers” given in this forum.
Here’s the facts:
You must register using the address where you reside.
Where you reside is the address on your IC.
As per the National Registration Act, the address in your IC must be accurate. If it is not accurate, you can be fined up to $5,000 and imprisoned up to 5 years.
MOE also gives clear warnings:
“MOE takes a serious view of parents intentionally using an address solely for the purpose of P1 registration, and will take action to transfer a child out of a school if it is established that there was an intention to abuse the system.
Parents found to have given false information during P1 registration will be referred to the Police for investigation.
Children who have been admitted based on false information will be transferred to another school with vacancies.”
So the answer is: No, cannot use a second (or third or fourth) property or weekend home as your registered address. Whether it’s empty or rented out is not relevant. You can ONLY use your registered residential address as per your IC, and if you don’t honestly declare your correct residential address for your IC you are clearly committing a criminal act and could go to jail.
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JamesSing\" post_id=\"2032190\" time=\"1627570730\" user_id=\"194098:
That was my understanding as well. However, I think many could not find the exact answer to what the meaning of \"reside\" was, as in even if the NRIC places the official registered residential address as \"Resident A\" but do not stay there, does it contravene the rules? There was no intention to deceive the system because both parents' NRICs do indicate \"Resident A\" but they only stay there over the weekends or not every weekday etc. Assuming Resident A is unoccupied (i.e. not rented out, just empty), consider the scenario where both parents are required to stay in a company hostel during the weekdays for their work purposes and their child stays with grandparents beyond 2km of the pri school, which address should the parents register? Grandparents' or their own Resident A or their hostel? I would have thought it would be allowable to put Resident A as indicated on their NRICs. Hence the \"uncertainty\" faced by some of the posters here.
I am shocked at some of the incorrect “answers” given in this forum.
Here’s the facts:
You must register using the address where you reside.
Where you reside is the address on your IC.
As per the National Registration Act, the address in your IC must be accurate. If it is not accurate, you can be fined up to $5,000 and imprisoned up to 5 years.
MOE also gives clear warnings:
“MOE takes a serious view of parents intentionally using an address solely for the purpose of P1 registration, and will take action to transfer a child out of a school if it is established that there was an intention to abuse the system.
Parents found to have given false information during P1 registration will be referred to the Police for investigation.
Children who have been admitted based on false information will be transferred to another school with vacancies.”
So the answer is: No, cannot use a second (or third or fourth) property or weekend home as your registered address. Whether it’s empty or rented out is not relevant. You can ONLY use your registered residential address as per your IC, and if you don’t honestly declare your correct residential address for your IC you are clearly committing a criminal act and could go to jail.
https://postimg.cc/F1MY8TXh
https://postimg.cc/8sJFZq3y
https://postimg.cc/nCqXJqnB
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Aztac\" post_id=\"2032202\" time=\"1627598775\" user_id=\"132972:
just for discussion: i remember there was one year a parent was asking if can put a work place address as resident address. parents are really creative.... :shock:
That was my understanding as well. However, I think many could not find the exact answer to what the meaning of \"reside\" was, as in even if the NRIC places the official registered residential address as \"Resident A\" but do not stay there, does it contravene the rules? There was no intention to deceive the system because both parents' NRICs do indicate \"Resident A\" but they only stay there over the weekends or not every weekday etc. Assuming Resident A is unoccupied (i.e. not rented out, just empty), consider the scenario where both parents are required to stay in a company hostel during the weekdays for their work purposes and their child stays with grandparents beyond 2km of the pri school, which address should the parents register? Grandparents' or their own Resident A or their hostel? I would have thought it would be allowable to put Resident A as indicated on their NRICs. Hence the \"uncertainty\" faced by some of the posters here.JamesSing\" post_id=\"2032190\" time=\"1627570730\" user_id=\"194098:
I am shocked at some of the incorrect “answers” given in this forum.
Here’s the facts:
You must register using the address where you reside.
Where you reside is the address on your IC.
As per the National Registration Act, the address in your IC must be accurate. If it is not accurate, you can be fined up to $5,000 and imprisoned up to 5 years.
MOE also gives clear warnings:
“MOE takes a serious view of parents intentionally using an address solely for the purpose of P1 registration, and will take action to transfer a child out of a school if it is established that there was an intention to abuse the system.
Parents found to have given false information during P1 registration will be referred to the Police for investigation.
Children who have been admitted based on false information will be transferred to another school with vacancies.”
So the answer is: No, cannot use a second (or third or fourth) property or weekend home as your registered address. Whether it’s empty or rented out is not relevant. You can ONLY use your registered residential address as per your IC, and if you don’t honestly declare your correct residential address for your IC you are clearly committing a criminal act and could go to jail.
https://postimg.cc/F1MY8TXh
https://postimg.cc/8sJFZq3y
https://postimg.cc/nCqXJqnB
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Lol. I think the workplace was probably Midview City, which is right next door to Aitong.
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Orb\" post_id=\"2032204\" time=\"1627602656\" user_id=\"25015:
just for discussion: i remember there was one year a parent was asking if can put a work place address as resident address. parents are really creative.... :shock:[/quote]This one mostly not allowed lah
That was my understanding as well. However, I think many could not find the exact answer to what the meaning of \"reside\" was, as in even if the NRIC places the official registered residential address as \"Resident A\" but do not stay there, does it contravene the rules? There was no intention to deceive the system because both parents' NRICs do indicate \"Resident A\" but they only stay there over the weekends or not every weekday etc. Assuming Resident A is unoccupied (i.e. not rented out, just empty), consider the scenario where both parents are required to stay in a company hostel during the weekdays for their work purposes and their child stays with grandparents beyond 2km of the pri school, which address should the parents register? Grandparents' or their own Resident A or their hostel? I would have thought it would be allowable to put Resident A as indicated on their NRICs. Hence the \"uncertainty\" faced by some of the posters here.Aztac\" post_id=\"2032202\" time=\"1627598775\" user_id=\"132972:
[quote=JamesSing post_id=2032190 time=1627570730 user_id=194098]I am shocked at some of the incorrect “answers” given in this forum.
Here’s the facts:
You must register using the address where you reside.
Where you reside is the address on your IC.
As per the National Registration Act, the address in your IC must be accurate. If it is not accurate, you can be fined up to $5,000 and imprisoned up to 5 years.
MOE also gives clear warnings:
“MOE takes a serious view of parents intentionally using an address solely for the purpose of P1 registration, and will take action to transfer a child out of a school if it is established that there was an intention to abuse the system.
Parents found to have given false information during P1 registration will be referred to the Police for investigation.
Children who have been admitted based on false information will be transferred to another school with vacancies.”
So the answer is: No, cannot use a second (or third or fourth) property or weekend home as your registered address. Whether it’s empty or rented out is not relevant. You can ONLY use your registered residential address as per your IC, and if you don’t honestly declare your correct residential address for your IC you are clearly committing a criminal act and could go to jail.
https://postimg.cc/F1MY8TXh
https://postimg.cc/8sJFZq3y
https://postimg.cc/nCqXJqnB
https://postimg.cc/zHgV3gKm
*but there are certain exceptions. Some work places are also residential units / SOHO. If you live and work in one of those, it’s possible.
Having the residential unit that you owned as the official residential address (ie reflected in NRIC), but staying with the in-laws / parents on certain days is not contravening the policy.
Having a residential unit as the official residential address but not staying there at all is contravening the policy.
The policy does not prescribe how many days in a week / month / year you must stay there but it says you cannot not stay there. -
floppy\" post_id=\"2032207\" time=\"1627604819\" user_id=\"97579:
This one mostly not allowed lah
just for discussion: i remember there was one year a parent was asking if can put a work place address as resident address. parents are really creative.... :shock:Orb\" post_id=\"2032204\" time=\"1627602656\" user_id=\"25015:
[quote=Aztac post_id=2032202 time=1627598775 user_id=132972]
That was my understanding as well. However, I think many could not find the exact answer to what the meaning of \"reside\" was, as in even if the NRIC places the official registered residential address as \"Resident A\" but do not stay there, does it contravene the rules? There was no intention to deceive the system because both parents' NRICs do indicate \"Resident A\" but they only stay there over the weekends or not every weekday etc. Assuming Resident A is unoccupied (i.e. not rented out, just empty), consider the scenario where both parents are required to stay in a company hostel during the weekdays for their work purposes and their child stays with grandparents beyond 2km of the pri school, which address should the parents register? Grandparents' or their own Resident A or their hostel? I would have thought it would be allowable to put Resident A as indicated on their NRICs. Hence the \"uncertainty\" faced by some of the posters here.
*but there are certain exceptions. Some work places are also residential units / SOHO. If you live and work in one of those, it’s possible.
Having the residential unit that you owned as the official residential address (ie reflected in NRIC), but staying with the in-laws / parents on certain days is not contravening the policy.
Having a residential unit as the official residential address but not staying there at all is contravening the policy.
The policy does not prescribe how many days in a week / month / year you must stay there but it says you cannot not stay there.[/quote]I think residing there is quite clear cut but of course some parents may want to play with words or so call act blur about not knowing. I feel that even if parents think that hey the policy never say how many days...basic principle will be majority of the days in the week? If majority of the week you are not there how can you say you are residing here and not the other place where you spend majority of the time? Also when reading the policy, need to read it as a whole and not just cherry pick a sentence here a sentence there to read and then say not clear or never state how many days.
It's stated very clear \"The home-school distance category priority is given for the convenience and interest of the child. The family is expected to reside at the address for the duration of the child's primary school studies. MOE recognises that some families are unable to remain at the address used for registration for the entire duration of the child's primary school studies. Even so, a child who gains priority admission through their distance category is required to reside at the address used for registration for at least 30 months from the start of the P1 Registration Exercise on 30 June 2021. If the 30-month stay condition is not met, MOE reserves the right to transfer the child to another school with vacancies, as the priority admission to the first school was based on the declared address used for registration.\"
If you are not staying there majority of the time, worse still only go back during the weekend, where's the convenience?
But then of course parents can choose to take the risk and prepare to live with the consequences.
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