2021 P1 Registration Exercise for 2022 In-take

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marshmallow96\" post_id=\"2032904\" time=\"1628039028\" user_id=\"135044:

Lexy\" post_id=\"2032900\" time=\"1628030350\" user_id=\"12180:

[quote=floppy post_id=2032896 time=1628012730 user_id=97579]

Where discussion is concerned, Telegram chat is... hopeless.

Imagine if you have 2,000 participants. Each one just have to say a word and you will have 2,000 messages. Blink and you will miss it. It's not really an avenue for any sort of discussion.

One of my Telegram chat has over 2k participants and >200 online at anyone time. The mod's job is to STOP people from discussing / chatting else it will flood the channel

However, if the size of the group is small, it’s still viable for an avenue for discussion.

Feel that a few of us are left in the mountain while the rest live in the city
It is also hard to follow here if people don't follow though the thread. Don't think many need to register to see the posting here, so maybe lurking.

Anyway here is 2C D1 summary:

Given that the take up rate until 2B this year was comparable to last year's, 2C total applicants number should be comparable as well. Total applicants for D1 for 2C was 43% higher than last year, more people making a move early this year. Nevertheless, still have about 6k applicants yet to make the move. About 57 schools are already oversubscribed - and over 1500 will be balloted out (so far) and 2k plus will join them.

Lol... There will be people who like the forum format but I have younger friends (parents with SG50 kids also) who tell me they don't know how to navigate at all, is like.. not the technology of their era :lol:

this forum is not easier to find things either. I spent weeks reading through the pinned threads from first page till last, I don't know how many will do that :lol:

But I really thank you all you seniors here to share your insight and data. Learned so much from all of you.[/quote]Yes, this forum is not easy to find things... but I don't think that's due to the limitation of phpBB or the forum format. A lot of the difficulty has to do with housekeeping and maintenance, which let's be honest, haven't been tip top. As a result, you have to search, scroll and read from start to end.

I'm also on other forum / boards that are using threaded discussion. Those are even harder to navigate and search for info for newbies.

[CALYNSEA]

floppy\" post_id=\"2032906\" time=\"1628040476\" user_id=\"97579:

marshmallow96\" post_id=\"2032904\" time=\"1628039028\" user_id=\"135044:

[quote=Lexy post_id=2032900 time=1628030350 user_id=12180]

Feel that a few of us are left in the mountain while the rest live in the city
It is also hard to follow here if people don't follow though the thread. Don't think many need to register to see the posting here, so maybe lurking.

Anyway here is 2C D1 summary:

Given that the take up rate until 2B this year was comparable to last year's, 2C total applicants number should be comparable as well. Total applicants for D1 for 2C was 43% higher than last year, more people making a move early this year. Nevertheless, still have about 6k applicants yet to make the move. About 57 schools are already oversubscribed - and over 1500 will be balloted out (so far) and 2k plus will join them.

Lol... There will be people who like the forum format but I have younger friends (parents with SG50 kids also) who tell me they don't know how to navigate at all, is like.. not the technology of their era

this forum is not easier to find things either. I spent weeks reading through the pinned threads from first page till last, I don't know how many will do that :lol:

But I really thank you all you seniors here to share your insight and data. Learned so much from all of you.

Yes, this forum is not easy to find things... but I don't think that's due to the limitation of phpBB or the forum format. A lot of the difficulty has to do with housekeeping and maintenance, which let's be honest, haven't been tip top. As a result, you have to search, scroll and read from start to end.

I'm also on other forum / boards that are using threaded discussion. Those are even harder to navigate and search for info for newbies.[/quote]Anyway I'm thankful that a lot of Grandmaster (I believe a lot no longer has vested interest as they have been answering queries and sharing their wealth of knowledge and experience since a few years back so can't be every year have a child for P1 registration ha ha) here are very active and responsive.

[Saykoon84]

I’ve been wondering - for those schools like Northlands and Southview. Since its so over-subscribed (guessing that they are mainly <1km confirm need to ballot); where would be the next natural selection be; would be somewhere still close enough right. Since distance was a key factor ?

[Lexy]

Saykoon84\" post_id=\"2032908\" time=\"1628040925\" user_id=\"174555:

I've been wondering - for those schools like Northlands and Southview. Since its so over-subscribed (guessing that they are mainly <1km confirm need to ballot); where would be the next natural selection be; would be somewhere still close enough right. Since distance was a key factor ?

To them, the rest of the school choices are either confirmed safe or no difference to them.

[marshmallow96]

floppy\" post_id=\"2032906\" time=\"1628040476\" user_id=\"97579:

marshmallow96\" post_id=\"2032904\" time=\"1628039028\" user_id=\"135044:

[quote=Lexy post_id=2032900 time=1628030350 user_id=12180]

Feel that a few of us are left in the mountain while the rest live in the city
It is also hard to follow here if people don't follow though the thread. Don't think many need to register to see the posting here, so maybe lurking.

Anyway here is 2C D1 summary:

Given that the take up rate until 2B this year was comparable to last year's, 2C total applicants number should be comparable as well. Total applicants for D1 for 2C was 43% higher than last year, more people making a move early this year. Nevertheless, still have about 6k applicants yet to make the move. About 57 schools are already oversubscribed - and over 1500 will be balloted out (so far) and 2k plus will join them.

Lol... There will be people who like the forum format but I have younger friends (parents with SG50 kids also) who tell me they don't know how to navigate at all, is like.. not the technology of their era

this forum is not easier to find things either. I spent weeks reading through the pinned threads from first page till last, I don't know how many will do that :lol:

But I really thank you all you seniors here to share your insight and data. Learned so much from all of you.

Yes, this forum is not easy to find things... but I don't think that's due to the limitation of phpBB or the forum format. A lot of the difficulty has to do with housekeeping and maintenance, which let's be honest, haven't been tip top. As a result, you have to search, scroll and read from start to end.

I'm also on other forum / boards that are using threaded discussion. Those are even harder to navigate and search for info for newbies.[/quote]I personally feel that FB groups are the easiest to find things. Each post is a topic of discussion so you can follow through the discussions of each post easily. But again I was told that I'm \"old gen\" cos I'm still using FB :lol:

[marshmallow96]

Hendon\" post_id=\"2032897\" time=\"1628028532\" user_id=\"142376:

I would think the drop in attendance on the forum thread is due to the inability to game the system like before because during times like these as covid, MOE rules, online registrations have changed behaviours and information that underpinned the past

Actually the level of discussion is still very high, perhaps even higher than last time, just that the discussions have moved out of the forum. In fact now people understand and know how to play around with the system better, that's why you see all the \"flight to safety\" to earlier phases, which mostly require pre-planning.

[sbchhaya]

Sylf79\" post_id=\"2032891\" time=\"1628006134\" user_id=\"155087:

My son is p3 in st gab so far he has been enjoying the school life and friends… teachers are not that bad too..

sbchhaya\" post_id=\"2032757\" time=\"1627949653\" user_id=\"193870:

[quote=Lexy post_id=2032735 time=1627912952 user_id=12180]

That's the issue more for PRs and staying more than 2km. As SJIJ has more flow over this year, not sure the application rate for St gab.

Have you not consider other schools in Geylang? There are 2 that may not need balloting.

And PRs we are ! So going by the results in the previous rounds, am unsure whether to try a better school first in 2C, or to just secure a seat in a safer school. Have just heard floating opinions about St Gab, but havent had any real review or feedback from existing student.

[/quote]Thank you so much for the feedback. Is the school very focussed on academics?

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Lexy\" post_id=\"2032900\" time=\"1628030350\" user_id=\"12180:

Feel that a few of us are left in the mountain while the rest live in the city
It is also hard to follow here if people don't follow though the thread. Don't think many need to register to see the posting here, so maybe lurking.

Anyway here is 2C D1 summary:

Given that the take up rate until 2B this year was comparable to last year's, 2C total applicants number should be comparable as well. Total applicants for D1 for 2C was 43% higher than last year, more people making a move early this year. Nevertheless, still have about 6k applicants yet to make the move. About 57 schools are already oversubscribed - and over 1500 will be balloted out (so far) and 2k plus will join them.

https://i.postimg.cc/3Ng7KLNw/c03v-I-comparison-of-applicants-before-phase-2c-2020-vs-2021.png\">

1. The proportion of applicants applying before Phase 2C against birth has increased by 1.6ppt.
2. The proportion of applicants having registered or secured a place in a school before Phase 2C against birth has increased by 1.5ppt.
> People are indeed making a move early (and largely successful because some of them are aiming for not-so-popular schools).

1. This year, 12 schools are left with 20 places for Phase 2C. Last year, 5 schools.
2. However, for schools with 25 or less places for Phase 2C, the numbers are not dissimilar (18 this year vs 17 last year).
> The same hot schools last year, the same hot schools this year and if I'm a betting man, the same hot schools next year. Are we surprised?

https://i.postimg.cc/QMkpTDzg/lv2-YE-comparison-of-vacancies-in-phase-2c-2020-vs-2021.png\">

1. A third of the schools have around the same number of vacancy (between -5 and +5) this year and last year.
2. The rest of the gainers / losers are fairly evenly distributed.
3. Total number of places offered by schools this year > last year, despite birth rate this year < last year.
> Higher take-up in the earlier phases may not necessarily result in fewer choices in Phase 2C, at least for this year. If numbers get cut next year? :nailbite:

People with more time and would prefer to read a longer form, or want to argue and point out mistakes, can refer to https://littlereddotdata.wordpress.com/2021/08/04/phase-2c-let-the-games-begin/

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marshmallow96\" post_id=\"2032918\" time=\"1628044862\" user_id=\"135044:

Hendon\" post_id=\"2032897\" time=\"1628028532\" user_id=\"142376:

I would think the drop in attendance on the forum thread is due to the inability to game the system like before because during times like these as covid, MOE rules, online registrations have changed behaviours and information that underpinned the past

Actually the level of discussion is still very high, perhaps even higher than last time, just that the discussions have moved out of the forum. In fact now people understand and know how to play around with the system better, that's why you see all the \"flight to safety\" to earlier phases, which mostly require pre-planning.

The flight to safety to earlier phases is real (statistically speaking ).

[Guniguni]

Sorry need to ask for those parents who have just registered- do you get a confirmation email or sms that you have registered or something? I have no notifications telling me I have successfully submitted my application for 2C??

System was crazy for singpass last night and I had to log in and out and register 4 times. The final page did finally show application submitted but I have no sms or email so kinda worried now.