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    • floppyF Offline
      floppy
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      jetsoup\" post_id=\"2035225\" time=\"1629553605\" user_id=\"137155:

      floppy\" post_id=\"2035175\" time=\"1629509150\" user_id=\"97579:

      [quote=jetsoup post_id=2035163 time=1629481565 user_id=137155]

      Just wondering if applicants might abuse this and \"rent\" a place within 1km without actually moving there. They only move in the area if after they are balloted into the Phase 2C 1km, so that they won't be caught later.

      There seems to be a lot of ex-foreigners-turned-Singaporean with kids in RPGS.

      Welcome to KSP, Jon Snow.
      If you are wondering, then you know nothing.

      It’s done by SC - new and old. And it doesn’t constitute an abuse, just playing within the rules.

      Sorry I don't understand what is Jon snow in this context.
      Anyway, I thought if using phase 2C to ballot in, must reside there and stay there for 30 months from the registration date?[/quote]There isn't a law against renting multiple homes in Singapore.

      For P1 registration exercise, supposedly you are looking at RGPS. The Shelford looks like a nice place, only $4,500 / month for a ready to move in unit. Sign up with landlord for lease commencement on 1 July 2021 and apply using the address with all the right documentations in place.
      If successful, shift in. Tear up your other contract(s) and pay up whatever penalty to the landlord(s). Stay there for 30 months.
      If not successful, ditch The Shelford, cough up whatever penalty to the landlord and choose to stay where ever you fancy (assuming you pick a school that doesn't require balloting in Phase 2CS).

      Expensive endeavour? Probably. Within the rules? Definitely. Then there's no abuse.

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        Veyron
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        jetsoup\" post_id=\"2035163\" time=\"1629481565\" user_id=\"137155:

        phtthp\" post_id=\"1990524\" time=\"1597237734\" user_id=\"35251:

        [quote=cat_quek post_id=1990522 time=1597237524 user_id=7180]there are not many new condo within 1km, i think!

        strange, then where do the sudden sharp rise of so many < 1 km SC applicants, come from ?

        Rent the existing condo, for 30 months ?

        Just wondering if applicants might abuse this and \"rent\" a place within 1km without actually moving there. They only move in the area if after they are balloted into the Phase 2C 1km, so that they won't be caught later.

        There seems to be a lot of ex-foreigners-turned-Singaporean with kids in RPGS.[/quote]During application, P2C applicants will need to key in the registered address and proof of tenancy agreement supported with a certificate of stamp duty (if they are renting). Hence it is impossible for someone to fake a rental address without actually renting a place. And of course, at the point of registration, they may not actually be living there yet, but they have certainly secured a place and paying rent.

        On the other hand, there are also families who cheat by not actually staying or fulfil the MOP requirement. Over the years there have been parents getting caught and having their P1 or P2 student expelled from the school. I believe there was a case involving a RGPS student

        https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/father-who-lied-about-address-during-pri-1-registration-gets-fine-instead-of

        New or old, citizens are citizens and they have the same rights as other Singaporeans who intend to send the kids to RGPS. For those who cheat, the probability will be higher for Singapore born Singaporeans than new citizens because the latter group are more likely to have more options to cheat. e.g utilizing parents, relatives, or sibling addresses for registration.

        The reasons why there are more new citizens (NC) sending their child to RGPS could be due to
        1) Popularity of neighbourhood, proximity to good schools (NYPS, RGS, MGS, SCGS, HCI, NJC)
        2) Popularity of RGPS
        3) Limited option for NC due to parents having no affiliation to any schools
        4) Higher disposable income
        5) Popularity of D10 property


        With the availability of tracetogether app information, I think it should not be difficult for MOE to track who is cheating.

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        • R Offline
          Rgps parent
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          Very happy to secure a place in RGPS and to join this group.

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          • P Offline
            parent_to_be
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            Veyron\" post_id=\"2035238\" time=\"1629596780\" user_id=\"30663:

            jetsoup\" post_id=\"2035163\" time=\"1629481565\" user_id=\"137155:

            [quote=phtthp post_id=1990524 time=1597237734 user_id=35251]
            strange, then where do the sudden sharp rise of so many < 1 km SC applicants, come from ?

            Rent the existing condo, for 30 months ?

            Just wondering if applicants might abuse this and \"rent\" a place within 1km without actually moving there. They only move in the area if after they are balloted into the Phase 2C 1km, so that they won't be caught later.

            There seems to be a lot of ex-foreigners-turned-Singaporean with kids in RPGS.

            During application, P2C applicants will need to key in the registered address and proof of tenancy agreement supported with a certificate of stamp duty (if they are renting). Hence it is impossible for someone to fake a rental address without actually renting a place. And of course, at the point of registration, they may not actually be living there yet, but they have certainly secured a place and paying rent.

            On the other hand, there are also families who cheat by not actually staying or fulfil the MOP requirement. Over the years there have been parents getting caught and having their P1 or P2 student expelled from the school. I believe there was a case involving a RGPS student

            https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/father-who-lied-about-address-during-pri-1-registration-gets-fine-instead-of

            New or old, citizens are citizens and they have the same rights as other Singaporeans who intend to send the kids to RGPS. For those who cheat, the probability will be higher for Singapore born Singaporeans than new citizens because the latter group are more likely to have more options to cheat. e.g utilizing parents, relatives, or sibling addresses for registration.

            The reasons why there are more new citizens (NC) sending their child to RGPS could be due to
            1) Popularity of neighbourhood, proximity to good schools (NYPS, RGS, MGS, SCGS, HCI, NJC)
            2) Popularity of RGPS
            3) Limited option for NC due to parents having no affiliation to any schools
            4) Higher disposable income
            5) Popularity of D10 property


            With the availability of tracetogether app information, I think it should not be difficult for MOE to track who is cheating.[/quote]Frankly, i dun think MOE is authorize to use the tracetogether to chk on the registration. But those parents who are cheating may feel insecure abt it.

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              parent_to_be
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              Veyron\" post_id=\"2035238\" time=\"1629596780\" user_id=\"30663:

              jetsoup\" post_id=\"2035163\" time=\"1629481565\" user_id=\"137155:

              [quote=phtthp post_id=1990524 time=1597237734 user_id=35251]
              strange, then where do the sudden sharp rise of so many < 1 km SC applicants, come from ?

              Rent the existing condo, for 30 months ?

              Just wondering if applicants might abuse this and \"rent\" a place within 1km without actually moving there. They only move in the area if after they are balloted into the Phase 2C 1km, so that they won't be caught later.

              There seems to be a lot of ex-foreigners-turned-Singaporean with kids in RPGS.

              During application, P2C applicants will need to key in the registered address and proof of tenancy agreement supported with a certificate of stamp duty (if they are renting). Hence it is impossible for someone to fake a rental address without actually renting a place. And of course, at the point of registration, they may not actually be living there yet, but they have certainly secured a place and paying rent.

              On the other hand, there are also families who cheat by not actually staying or fulfil the MOP requirement. Over the years there have been parents getting caught and having their P1 or P2 student expelled from the school. I believe there was a case involving a RGPS student

              https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/father-who-lied-about-address-during-pri-1-registration-gets-fine-instead-of

              New or old, citizens are citizens and they have the same rights as other Singaporeans who intend to send the kids to RGPS. For those who cheat, the probability will be higher for Singapore born Singaporeans than new citizens because the latter group are more likely to have more options to cheat. e.g utilizing parents, relatives, or sibling addresses for registration.

              The reasons why there are more new citizens (NC) sending their child to RGPS could be due to
              1) Popularity of neighbourhood, proximity to good schools (NYPS, RGS, MGS, SCGS, HCI, NJC)
              2) Popularity of RGPS
              3) Limited option for NC due to parents having no affiliation to any schools
              4) Higher disposable income
              5) Popularity of D10 property


              With the availability of tracetogether app information, I think it should not be difficult for MOE to track who is cheating.[/quote]Frankly, i dun think MOE is authorize to use the tracetogether to chk on the registration. But those parents who are cheating may feel insecure abt it.

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              • W Offline
                Whenpigfly
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                Hi, can share the experiences about knowledge park in rgps? How is it so far?

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                • W Offline
                  Whenpigfly
                  last edited by

                  Hi,


                  For parents who girls successfully registered to P1 RGPS for 2022 cohort. If you would like to join the unofficial WA group with other parents.
                  https://chat.whatsapp.com/JV0BAihz0r78BtoeblJrjX

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                  • phtthpP Offline
                    phtthp
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                    Today, announced the merging of Phases (2A1 + 2A2).



                    from the press :-

                    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/primary-1-registration-changes-phase-2c-places-phase-2a-2166041


                    Currently, parents pay $500 for their daughter(s), to join RGPS Alumni Association. To become an alumni member, you must first have been a PSLE graduate of RGPS.


                    But,

                    if you have left RGPS without sitting for PSLE in RGPS, for example, seeked Transfer out of RGPS before reaching Primary 6, then you cannot join the Alumni Association. That's how it works !


                    However,
                    with this new combined merging, the Alumni \"disappearance\" effect takes place. The urge to join Alumni has
                    dissipated. Gone with the wind !


                    Even if you have already paid up $500, starting from next year 2022 P1 registration onwards, it is of no use anymore.

                    Why ?


                    because

                    2A1s

                    will be thrown into the same common identical Phase 2A for registration, together with all other 2A2s, who do not even need to fork out a single cent at all.


                    With this announcement,
                    actually, what is the message that they are trying to drive across ?


                    They are trying to convey across the message that -

                    starting from year 2022 onwards,

                    regardless of which phase you are in,
                    whether you are in Phase (2A or 2B or 2C),
                    shifting closer towards RGPS within 1 km then, is preferred.


                    ===========================

                    Going forward,

                    if parents do not see the benefit of joining RGPS 2A1 Alumni Association anymore, with this loss in income $,
                    where to get funds to support the objective(s) in our school ?


                    https://rgpsalumni.org.sg/

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                    • R Offline
                      ricedoll
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                      2C for RGPS now sure in!

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                      • floppyF Offline
                        floppy
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                        2C for RGPS now sure in!
                        I think you mean 2C < 1km sure in. There is still a very high likelihood that RGPS will ballot for > 2km.

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