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    2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

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    • sembgalS Offline
      sembgal
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      Option\" post_id=\"2040844\" time=\"1633413648\" user_id=\"185249:

      250abv\" post_id=\"2040805\" time=\"1633407451\" user_id=\"154417:

      [quote=Bleep post_id=2040803 time=1633407153 user_id=195257]
      Couldn't agree more...unfortunately most parents think top 4 schools only or else may as well go to neighbourhood school....they don't believe in inbetweens

      Ya. If those happened to get AL4/5 turns out to be more of a fluke, seriously still must consider kids overall ability....else may lose self-esteem in big 4.

      Ok, here's the deal in my view since I have one kid doing O levels and another, IP. I am proud of both.

      (a) If the kid tries for the big 4, he/ she will face a mix of students. It's true that some of them are really good, but it's also true that some of them are really lousy by studies/ academic standards.
      If the kid tries for O levels or another IP, the same thing happens, some really good and some really lousy.
      It's not that straightforward.
      If what you are concerned is the proportion of the students in the \"really good\" category in that cohort, this is at best confined to studies/ academic matters.

      (b) If the line of thought is only in terms of studies/ academic work, it may not spill into other aspects. Being holistic in development is a key aspect. E.g. independence developments of a kid, school and kid match, emotional/ mental well-being, even in the case where you may not want to rate the \"distance from home\" factor high enough.

      In short, the intimate understanding from parents about a kid goes a long way to bringing out the best in him/ her. That 'best' is what parents are actually looking for.[/quote]Well said

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        SG_KP1
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        ConfirmedNotGifted\" post_id=\"2040847\" time=\"1633414128\" user_id=\"75065:

        For parents wondering whether his/her DC can qualify for RI / RGS / NYGS / HCI, the Edusave Scholarships for Independent Schools (ESIS) will be a good reference point. ESIS is offered to top one-third students who are eligible for Independent Schools. In past years under T-score scheme, the cut-off for ESIS is often very close to the COP for these 4 top schools.

        I think once we \"lock down\" the COP for the top 4 schools, we can add incremental AL points to other schools based on the 2020 COP published by MOE, e.g. SCGS COP will be ESIS cut-off + 2 (because COP of RI & RGS is 6 while that of SCGS is 8 in 2020). This could be a possible methodology to make some sense from the black box.

        Let's share information on the lowest ESIS score in this forum on PSLE results day.
        In the past, they had the ability to slice the cohort very thinly at whatever cutoff they deemed fit for ESIS (it is still not clear to me how they know who will chose independent school although I'm sure the historical data was fairly stable). The difference this year is that we do now know exactly how ESIS is being awarded. For example, if Top 1/3 is somewhere in AL6, do they round it down to AL5 and have only top 30% (vs. 1/3 = 33.33%)? Or give it to all AL6 and have it extend meaningfully beyond 1/3 = 33.33%? To me, there is no \"high AL6\" and \"low AL6\" to discriminate.

        The general idea of adding +1, +2, or +3 AL levels as applicable (at least within IP) is probably not that far off. But unless we know exactly how ESIS was awarded it could imply odds that are slightly different from what some may assume.

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          250abv
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          Due to pandemic, the curriculum was trimmed, think 5 -6 topics in Science not taught. Likewise for other subjects. With lesser to study, they kids may find it easier to focus. Eexaminers also have smaller pool of topics to come out with challenging qns, hence students find papers easier??

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            Brandon Teo
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            Hi parents,

            Any of your kids can remembered the 2021 PSLE Science MCQ on Energy. My daughter mentioned about toy car. What is the answer for this qn?

            Thank you very much for the sharing.

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              CCK2008
              last edited by

              ConfirmedNotGifted\" post_id=\"2040847\" time=\"1633414128\" user_id=\"75065:

              For parents wondering whether his/her DC can qualify for RI / RGS / NYGS / HCI, the Edusave Scholarships for Independent Schools (ESIS) will be a good reference point. ESIS is offered to top one-third students who are eligible for Independent Schools. In past years under T-score scheme, the cut-off for ESIS is often very close to the COP for these 4 top schools.

              I think once we \"lock down\" the COP for the top 4 schools, we can add incremental AL points to other schools based on the 2020 COP published by MOE, e.g. SCGS COP will be ESIS cut-off + 2 (because COP of RI & RGS is 6 while that of SCGS is 8 in 2020). This could be a possible methodology to make some sense from the black box.

              Let's share information on the lowest ESIS score in this forum on PSLE results day.
              ESIS = AL6, top 3% of cohort, this is equivalent of $200 per month (school fee offset) until JC2, 6 years in total, $14400 in total.

              This makes the students ineligible for normal edusave awards and please note ESIS is just a school fee offset because independent schools' fee is extraordinary high, ~$250 to ~$400.

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                ipv4v6
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                Brandon Teo\" post_id=\"2040860\" time=\"1633416233\" user_id=\"195260:[quote=\"Brandon Teo\" post_id=2040860 time=1633416233 user_id=195260]
                Hi parents,
                Any of your kids can remembered the 2021 PSLE Science MCQ on Energy. My daughter mentioned about toy car. What is the answer for this qn?

                Thank you very much for the sharing.[/quote]
                A inflated ballon’s tied to a toy car. Question asking From what Energy to what energy?

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                  ConfirmedNotGifted
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                  My personal take is that MOE will be sensitive not to shrink the ESIS pool under the new AL scheme, i.e. more students will qualify for ESIS.


                  This means, whereas all ESIS eligible students will qualify for the top 4 schools in the past, under new system, all ESIS eligible students will be offered a position (AL4 or 5) OR a ballot ticket (AL 6).

                  [/quote]
                  In the past, they had the ability to slice the cohort very thinly at whatever cutoff they deemed fit for ESIS (it is still not clear to me how they know who will chose independent school although I’m sure the historical data was fairly stable). The difference this year is that we do now know exactly how ESIS is being awarded. For example, if Top 1/3 is somewhere in AL6, do they round it down to AL5 and have only top 30% (vs. 1/3 = 33.33%)? Or give it to all AL6 and have it extend meaningfully beyond 1/3 = 33.33%? To me, there is no "high AL6" and "low AL6" to discriminate.

                  The general idea of adding +1, +2, or +3 AL levels as applicable (at least within IP) is probably not that far off. But unless we know exactly how ESIS was awarded it could imply odds that are slightly different from what some may assume.
                  [/quote]

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                  • SG_KP1S Offline
                    SG_KP1
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                    ConfirmedNotGifted\" post_id=\"2040870\" time=\"1633417838\" user_id=\"75065:

                    My personal take is that MOE will be sensitive not to shrink the ESIS pool under the new AL scheme, i.e. more students will qualify for ESIS.

                    This means, whereas all ESIS eligible students will qualify for the top 4 schools in the past, under new system, all ESIS eligible students will be offered a position (AL4 or 5) OR a ballot ticket (AL 6).
                    I have no idea about the part in bold. The part in italics and underline is what I was alluding to. Under the old system (in terms of number of ESIS issued) you would assume ESIS recipient has a very high chance even if ballot. But if it is extended to more people, the ballot odd may not be so great.

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                      ipv4v6\" post_id=\"2040869\" time=\"1633417230\" user_id=\"34942:

                      Brandon Teo\" post_id=\"2040860\" time=\"1633416233\" user_id=\"195260:[quote=\"Brandon Teo\" post_id=2040860 time=1633416233 user_id=195260]Hi parents,
                      Any of your kids can remembered the 2021 PSLE Science MCQ on Energy. My daughter mentioned about toy car. What is the answer for this qn?

                      Thank you very much for the sharing.
                      A inflated ballon’s tied to a toy car. Question asking From what Energy to what energy?[/quote]
                      May I know what are the options?

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                        Brandon Teo
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                        My daughter can remembered 2 options:

                        1. KE -> PE -> Heat Energy + Sound Energy
                        2. KE -> Heat Energy + Sound Energy

                        Anyone can remembered other options?

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