Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2041000\" time=\"1633481107\" user_id=\"43981:
Endemic stage will be the final stage - when hopefully we can stop wearing masks, not have to count group sizes, not have to limit the no. of people in the office...
Does that mean that before we even go into endemic stage, we should be seeing the healthcare system expanding first.. then maybe can start taking off mask..maybe a faster process :sad:
But to get there, first, we do need to get to the point where most people are well-protected either naturally or by vaccination. On the way to that point, there are bound to be waves of infection, and for Singapore, larger waves simply because they were very good at controlling earlier. That was a good thing pre-vaccination as it prevented many deaths. But now, post-vaccination, it is necessary to allow many people to get exposed, and some to be infected, since we have found that none of the vaccines so far can protect against all infections. Mask-wearing will likely be the final restriction to be lifted.
I think they should just stop testing so much, and leave the asymptomatic cases undetected and uncounted. Since asympotomatic cases are, by definition, in no danger themselves, and very little to others, seeking them out and isolating them in large nos. seems a waste of resources and puts Singapore in bad light compared with other countries, most of which have a much less \"catch them all\" approach. At the same time, much more emphasis has to be placed on telling the vulnerable how to protect themselves, and making them understand that it is their responsibility now. -
I think probably like what told asymptomatic may be true till don’t know ownself got it. Not sure abt the health condition of the student got injured by another student from yesterday’s news…victim tested positive for C+.
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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/man-seeks-court-order-daughter-get-covid-19-vaccination-after-ex-wife-strongly-opposed-jab-2224891
Wait till they find out that if the daughter is a student at a MOE school, she can just walk into any community vaccination centre and get vaccinated without needing any parent consent.
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Office gave us ART kits to self test for the next few weeks
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slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2040989\" time=\"1633478917\" user_id=\"28674:
In DH’s workplace, 5 staff tested positive after taking ART, of which, 3 were cleaners. Maybe a lot of the seniors who caught COVID got it from workplace (cleaners, hawkers etc). At the rate of infection and deaths (9 seniors passed on yesterday), I won’t be surprised if there will be cleaners crunch shortly
The thinking is still very much \"everyone will take precautions to protect the vulnerable\" rather than \"teach the vulnerable how to take precautions to protect themselves\". There needs to be that switch in mindset before we can truly go \"endemic\". -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2041009\" time=\"1633482017\" user_id=\"28674:
They've already relaxed the guidelines for asymptomatic cases, from many cases I've read in the Telegram support group.
I think they should just stop testing so much, and leave the asymptomatic cases undetected and uncounted. Since asympotomatic cases are, by definition, in no danger themselves, and very little to others, seeking them out and isolating them in large nos. seems a waste of resources and puts Singapore in bad light compared with other countries, most of which have a much less \"catch them all\" approach. At the same time, much more emphasis has to be placed on telling the vulnerable how to protect themselves, and making them understand that it is their responsibility now.
If you are a fully vaccinated & asymptomatic person, and get a +ve result using ART at home, you no longer need to visit the hospital, go to SASH clinic or do PCR test.
You just self-isolate and self-monitor for any symptoms and do another ART 72 hrs later. If it's -ve, you can self-discharge and resume your activities.
The ART only detects persons with high viral load, so if you are a carrier with low viral load, you won't see a +ve on ART so soon. Despite this, they are now letting you off into the community.
This means last night's 3,000+ is not an accurate caseload. It excludes the abovementioned big group of fully vaccinated asymptomatic persons who have been released, similar to what UK has been doing for a while.
We are moving towards the correct direction. :rahrah: -
starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2041074\" time=\"1633497403\" user_id=\"14025:
Paid by your office? Or are these the 8 kits that was earlier announced?
Office gave us ART kits to self test for the next few weeks -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2041075\" time=\"1633497603\" user_id=\"17023:
Were they asymptomatic? If so, they only were detected because they were asked to test. There will be many more who live in blissful ignorance that they have contracted Covid because they don't test. I don't know the numbers, but I'm sure there are many more seniors who haven't contracted Covid than have. I don't think we are going to see a sharp reduction of that age group.
In DH’s workplace, 5 staff tested positive after taking ART, of which, 3 were cleaners. Maybe a lot of the seniors who caught COVID got it from workplace (cleaners, hawkers etc). At the rate of infection and deaths (9 seniors passed on yesterday), I won’t be surprised if there will be cleaners crunch shortlyslmkhoo\" post_id=\"2040989\" time=\"1633478917\" user_id=\"28674:
The thinking is still very much \"everyone will take precautions to protect the vulnerable\" rather than \"teach the vulnerable how to take precautions to protect themselves\". There needs to be that switch in mindset before we can truly go \"endemic\".
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For Nov / Dec year-end school holiday,
can Singaporean visitors (Sinopharm jabbed, fully vaccinated), enter Melbourne (Australia) for holiday, or cannot ?
Dec is summer time, in Australia
How about China visitors, also Sinopharm jabbed ?
Can enter Melbourne, for holiday ? -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2041136\" time=\"1633517022\" user_id=\"35251:
The Nov opening is only for citizens and PRs of Australia, and is dependent on vaccination rates. So I don't think it's likely that non-citizens/PRs will be allowed to travel into Australia in Dec.
For Nov / Dec year-end school holiday,
can Singaporean visitors (Sinopharm jabbed, fully vaccinated), enter Melbourne (Australia) for holiday, or cannot ?
Dec is summer time, in Australia
How about China visitors, also Sinopharm jabbed ?
Can enter Melbourne, for holiday ?
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