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    Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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    • phtthpP Offline
      phtthp
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      MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2041207\" time=\"1633563327\" user_id=\"43981:

      For those working overseas coming home see family.. there may be worries of able to come back home but may face restrictions when going back there?
      Yes, students studying overseas may return home (Singapore), for year-end school holiday & Christmas. But come January next new academic year 2022, going back to overseas for studies may be an issue, after the freezing
      Ice- cold harsh winter. I missed the good, old pre-covid days very much, where we had so much freedom

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      • MrsKiasuM Offline
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        Just hope that the day when our health is less clean than our street…won’t arrive.

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        • sharonkhooS Offline
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          lee_yl\" post_id=\"2041193\" time=\"1633534316\" user_id=\"17023:

          I find your words familiar, I think Trump said that. US had a lot of cases because they test a lot.

          Really blissful ignorance? Those who are asymptomatic may pass the virus to their aged parents (or young kids).

          Like Taiwan some months back, don’t know why only 200+ cases per day but 20+ deaths daily.

          Our death rates are also growing exponentially month on month:

          August = 18
          Sept = 40
          Oct = 33 for first 5 days.
          Likely to hit 160+ for this month of Oct.

          How about Nov? Worst case could hit 160 X 8 = 1280 deaths!
          Trump spoke pre-vaccination. Now, the situation is different and most who get the virus do not end up seriously ill. Policies have to flex depending on the situation.

          Those who have vulnerable at home will have to take more precautions, or have the vulnerable take more precautions. The balance of policy has to shift with the times.

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          • lee_ylL Offline
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            slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2041218\" time=\"1633566776\" user_id=\"28674:

            lee_yl\" post_id=\"2041193\" time=\"1633534316\" user_id=\"17023:

            I find your words familiar, I think Trump said that. US had a lot of cases because they test a lot.

            Really blissful ignorance? Those who are asymptomatic may pass the virus to their aged parents (or young kids).

            Like Taiwan some months back, don’t know why only 200+ cases per day but 20+ deaths daily.

            Our death rates are also growing exponentially month on month:

            August = 18
            Sept = 40
            Oct = 33 for first 5 days.
            Likely to hit 160+ for this month of Oct.

            How about Nov? Worst case could hit 160 X 8 = 1280 deaths!

            Trump spoke pre-vaccination. Now, the situation is different and most who get the virus do not end up seriously ill. Policies have to flex depending on the situation.

            Those who have vulnerable at home will have to take more precautions, or have the vulnerable take more precautions. The balance of policy has to shift with the times.

            An unfortunate fact is that our death rate is now significantly higher than pre-vaccination times!!

            While 98% of the positive cases has mild or no symptoms, 2% may end up with a serious condition and if the daily numbers are high, 2% can be very significant

            We are in a bipolar situation, most will be ok even if infected but a significant segment of the population will be extremely vulnerable and the challenge is how as a society we can continue taking care of the vulnerable minority.

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            • ChiefKiasuC Offline
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              lee_yl\" post_id=\"2041247\" time=\"1633578889\" user_id=\"17023:

              ...
              We are in a bipolar situation, most will be ok even if infected but a significant segment of the population will be extremely vulnerable and the challenge is how as a society we can continue taking care of the vulnerable minority.
              That's exactly what we have been told to expect. Andemic mah.
              As for how society can take care of the vulnerable... well 🤷 ... andemic mah.

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              • Z Offline
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                Don't think there's much we can do about the rising death toll...We will hit 5,000 positive cases next weekend. 10,000 by end-Oct.


                Gan KY has gone to US. Heard MTI is talking to US and more EU countries on VTLs.
                https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/government-economy/singapore-in-talks-with-europe-us-on-vaccinated-travel-gan

                For info, effective today 7 Oct, ICA has discreetly reduced the consecutive no of days from 21 days to 14 days that one must stay in Cat 1-4 countries (incl the 2 VTL countries) before they're allowed to enter Singapore.

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                • SG_KP1S Offline
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                  Zappy\" post_id=\"2041269\" time=\"1633581897\" user_id=\"134817:

                  Actually, if they are ending HBL and getting the kids to go back to school next week... they could have conducted the exams. Si mi \"allow more time for curriculum recovery due to disruptions brought about by COVID-19\"... just test them on what they have learnt rather than kick the can down the road to next year and then if they realize they are behind, they will have even more to catch up on.
                  Copied over from the 2021 PSLE thread. To me, kick the can down the road makes catching up harder. Teach something this year but test next year means you still need to review this materials next year (i.e. less time for everything that would normally come next year). Second, if your exam usually tests 5 concepts but now you are trying to jam in 6-7 because of carryover from the prior year (i.e. really trying to catch up), it is difficult to have the appropriate mix of so called easy, average, and hard questions for all of the topics. I'm actually not sure if the common last topics will be added back to PSLE anytime soon. Of course, eventually they can just tell everyone \"figure out\" how to catch up but this may not be so easy for some to implement without a flood of complaints (not that the complaints themselves make it good or bad).

                  I'm just glad the P5s are having SA2. With no SA1, I just want to see where my girl stands at this point. Good, ok, or bad, just need to know and move on from there.

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                  • SG_KP1S Offline
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                    zeit.\" post_id=\"2041282\" time=\"1633584090\" user_id=\"194295:

                    Don't think there's much we can do about the rising death toll...We will hit 5,000 positive cases next weekend. 10,000 by end-Oct.

                    Gan KY has gone to US. Heard MTI is talking to US and more EU countries on VTLs.
                    https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/government-economy/singapore-in-talks-with-europe-us-on-vaccinated-travel-gan

                    For info, effective today 7 Oct, ICA has discreetly reduced the consecutive no of days from 21 days to 14 days that one must stay in Cat 1-4 countries (incl the 2 VTL countries) before they're allowed to enter Singapore.
                    Here's a bit more details on US VTL if you are interested.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/u-s-pushing-singapore-to-let-american-visitors-enter-freely/ar-AAP93JT?ocid=msedgntp

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                    • Z Offline
                      zeit.033699
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                      SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2041284\" time=\"1633584568\" user_id=\"188234:

                      zeit.\" post_id=\"2041282\" time=\"1633584090\" user_id=\"194295:

                      Don't think there's much we can do about the rising death toll...We will hit 5,000 positive cases next weekend. 10,000 by end-Oct.

                      Gan KY has gone to US. Heard MTI is talking to US and more EU countries on VTLs.
                      https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/government-economy/singapore-in-talks-with-europe-us-on-vaccinated-travel-gan

                      For info, effective today 7 Oct, ICA has discreetly reduced the consecutive no of days from 21 days to 14 days that one must stay in Cat 1-4 countries (incl the 2 VTL countries) before they're allowed to enter Singapore.

                      Here's a bit more details on US VTL if you are interested.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/u-s-pushing-singapore-to-let-american-visitors-enter-freely/ar-AAP93JT?ocid=msedgntp

                      Thanks, not interested in the US as the journey is too long.

                      Am looking at Cat 2 which has reduced to 14 days, meaning one might be able to squeeze in a 2nd or even 3rd neighbouring country, if the criterion is to have stayed continuously for 14 days in the final Cat 2 country before flying back to Singapore. For instance, you can enter France first, but you can drive across to Germany/Switzerland for a quick 1-2 day trip, and return to France to tour continuously for 14 days before coming back.

                      Now the big problem is whilst there are no restrictions to enter many Cat 2 EU countries, Singapore's ICA requires you to take a PCR test 48 hrs prior in that Cat 2 country before you can fly back to serve your 7-day home quarantine.
                      The list of accredited PCR centres on ICA website is too short. If one wants to go to any other country not listed here, one might have to contact the embassy/consulate here to know where to take that pre-departure PCR test.
                      https://www.moh.gov.sg/covid-19/statistics/accreditation-bodies-for-covid-19-testing

                      There is one more incentive I spotted, which is they allow you to serve SHN at home if all your household members share the same travel history. It's not difficult to fulfil this criterion because pp usually travel as a family, and if we could isolate together for just 7 days under 1 roof, that's tolerable and more importantly, free of charge...

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                      • Z Offline
                        zeit.033699
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                        phtthp\" post_id=\"2041136\" time=\"1633517022\" user_id=\"35251:

                        For Nov / Dec year-end school holiday,

                        can Singaporean visitors (Sinopharm jabbed, fully vaccinated), enter Melbourne (Australia) for holiday, or cannot ?
                        Dec is summer time, in Australia

                        How about China visitors, also Sinopharm jabbed ?
                        Can enter Melbourne, for holiday ?
                        Sinovac has recently been recognised by Australia, but not Sinopharm. This is probably to facilitate the entry of Aussies/PRs from Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore or China/HK where Sinovac is offered.

                        Anyway, short-term visitors like foreign tourists cannot enter Oz without restrictions, unlike EU, UK, Canada and some Middle East countries like UAE.

                        https://www.kayak.sg/travel-restrictions

                        You can try the UK which has lifted a lot of restrictions a few days ago.
                        https://www.gov.uk/government/news/travel-advice-changes-made-for-over-30-countries-and-territories

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