Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

[sharonkhoo]

raysusan\" post_id=\"2042056\" time=\"1634088417\" user_id=\"1304:

pirate\" post_id=\"2042043\" time=\"1634080996\" user_id=\"66252:

[quote=starlight1968sg post_id=2042040 time=1634076369 user_id=14025]To think from another angle, why unvaccinated ones can't go here and there, to mix with the vaccinated ones? Aren't the unvaccinated ones more worry to catch the virus since the vaccinated if infected, are mostly mild or no symptoms?

No lah. It is so that the unvaccinated don't get infected by the vaccinated, and hog up all our limited medical resources.

but they allow the unvax to dine in upon PET
so contradicting
protect the unvax but allow PET.. [/quote]All in all, this prohibiting the unvaccinated from malls was a mistake, but they cannot lose face by admitting it. So they make exceptions, and these will grow as people complain, and they will quietly change the policy after a while, and find some reason to say that it is no longer necessary.

This is a policy made by people who drive cars, know how to order online, have the means (and strength) to buy larger quantities at a time, who don't mind paying for deliveries...

If they want people to take reponsibility for themselves, then let the unvaccinated make their own decisions. Advise them, frighten them about the consequences, make it as easy as possible for them to get vaccinated if they can, but let them make their choices. It's like telling the elderly to use pedestrian crossings - if they choose not to, do we man every road to stop them?

[MrsKiasu]

I just guess some of the businesses are having challenges with the frequent changes and added responsibilities.


If I cook noodles at my stall and a person came ordering dine in..I have to take my head up, ask and see the vaccination status on hp? Or the hawkers share cost employ someone to keep going round the tables to check?

If me, I will just probably just take off my apron and say you all work la

[pirate]

I am more interested in the question if I am vaccinated, encountered the virus, but did not get infected even asymptomatically, because my body’s immune system squashed the virus before I could get infected, will I develop natural immunity?


Or will everyone who is vaccinated and encounters the virus still get infected, albeit asymptomatically?

[ChiefKiasu]

pirate\" post_id=\"2042077\" time=\"1634094958\" user_id=\"66252:

I am more interested in the question if I am vaccinated, encountered the virus, but did not get infected even asymptomatically, because my body's immune system squashed the virus before I could get infected, will I develop natural immunity?

Or will everyone who is vaccinated and encounters the virus still get infected, albeit asymptomatically?

Well, think about flu shots. We still have to take them every year. I think it is part of the natural selection process when we build immunity for the virus, with or without the vaccine. Not sure if having the vaccine may hasten this process, or simply patch us over this period when we are still developing natural immunity.

[Imp75]

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042075\" time=\"1634093033\" user_id=\"43981:

I just guess some of the businesses are having challenges with the frequent changes and added responsibilities.

If I cook noodles at my stall and a person came ordering dine in..I have to take my head up, ask and see the vaccination status on hp? Or the hawkers share cost employ someone to keep going round the tables to check?

If me, I will just probably just take off my apron and say you all work la

So this morning I went to a coffesshop for breakfast. This is a chain coffeeshop with financial muscle. I was checked/verified with trace together app by the kopi auntie before I could place my kopi orders. My hubs ordered prata, hawker doesn't bother to check. Per Grace Fu, the onus to check lies on the spot check conducted by SMM officers not hawkers.

[MrsKiasu]

Just guess, probably so long as the system need to do some work on it ie virus entered into system, high chance will get the extra goodness coz our system may in a way recognise the virus even when it is trying to squash it


I just feel that a vaccinated person have quite high chance to get infected just that we may perform better than unvaccinated ba.

Then I have a qn..if we are less than 6 mths from 2nd dose, at current condition when it is expected that most of us will encounter the virus say in these x mths while we supposedly still under the protection of vaccination.. we may not need booster if our vaccination expiry date is longer than the x mths? Can check antibodies(?) I suppose..is it very expensive? Now it is like young, old, weak or strong all have a standard depletion rate..

[MrsKiasu]

Imp75\" post_id=\"2042084\" time=\"1634097495\" user_id=\"2358:

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042075\" time=\"1634093033\" user_id=\"43981:

I just guess some of the businesses are having challenges with the frequent changes and added responsibilities.

If I cook noodles at my stall and a person came ordering dine in..I have to take my head up, ask and see the vaccination status on hp? Or the hawkers share cost employ someone to keep going round the tables to check?

If me, I will just probably just take off my apron and say you all work la

So this morning I went to a coffesshop for breakfast. This is a chain coffeeshop with financial muscle. I was checked/verified with trace together app by the kopi auntie before I could place my kopi orders. My hubs ordered prata, hawker doesn't bother to check. Per Grace Fu, the onus to check lies on the spot check conducted by SMM officers not hawkers.

Oic SMM officers salary paid by G I guess then not so bad. Those chain one I went, they ask and need to check but they have like 3 pax at the counter so can..

[ChiefKiasu]

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042086\" time=\"1634097959\" user_id=\"43981:

Oic SMM officers salary paid by G I guess then not so bad. Those chain one I went, they ask and need to check but they have like 3 pax at the counter so can..

Actually, I wouldn't worry about having the shop owners check. It's not like they have a LOT of customers nowadays...

[MrsKiasu]

ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2042087\" time=\"1634098312\" user_id=\"3:

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042086\" time=\"1634097959\" user_id=\"43981:

Oic SMM officers salary paid by G I guess then not so bad. Those chain one I went, they ask and need to check but they have like 3 pax at the counter so can..

Actually, I wouldn't worry about having the shop owners check. It's not like they have a LOT of customers nowadays...

But let's say particular timing crowd like lunch crowd will be jialat? I did small cooking at home and need rush out, one phone call asking me give this then give same thing but in another format..then I realized that I could have behave better lor so imagine these hawkers under humid hot condition, I was just thinking we must just try not be angry with them if they are rude.

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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2041800\" time=\"1633965808\" user_id=\"43981:

Fast and furious...Thailand opening think Msia soon..

BKK also wants to fight for passengers with SIN!
But BKK only has 40+% fully vaccinated. Though their R no is lower due to land size & population density.

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Msia is 70+% fully vaccinated I think. But maybe govt wants to clear the current wave of unvaccinated/partially vaccinated seniors first. If they let Msians and Singaporeans come in and out so early, plus those thousands of VTLs, I think the system may collapse.

There's a possibility that some Malaysians may not come back anymore after they return home to reunite with their loved ones! Some might quit their jobs here, and the service/ F&B/ mfg sector may see some attrition.