Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042146\" time=\"1634140028\" user_id=\"43981:
Dorms - most/all the workers have to undergo rostered routine testing where every infection is picked up. They are under different rules from people who live outside dorms who can use ARTs and recover at home without taking PCR tests. It's not that they are less strong - they probably are!
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\"MOH reported a total of 3,190 new Covid-19 infections on Wednesday, comprising 2,686 community cases, 498 cases among those living in dormitories and six imported cases\"
Now only symptomatic/with serious illness will need do PCR, am I right? and I would expect many cases don't need to be in the count after the broadened criteria for Home Recovery therefore we should be seeing quite huge drop in number., am I correct?
Why dormitory have so many then..they are generally stronger than our avg locals and likely quite a big proportion of reinfected cases? Meaning vaccinated possibly some with booster(?) acquired natural immunity, still can be considered 'serious' that warrant PCR test arh? Or vaccine effect really that low for those not yet gotten booster jab? And 52yo partial vaccinated with what multiple underlying medical conditions
Let's not be too negative... maybe just maybe clearing backlog :sad:
The underlying medical conditions that have been repeated many times in the past are almost always the same - diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, cancer....
Here's a recent list from the US CDC:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2042161\" time=\"1634170390\" user_id=\"28674:
Will be good if there can be some insights into the severity of the 3 highs, borderline, moderate or high. Almost all of my peers have one of the 3 highs, either borderline high, under obervation or taking medicine. Will like to gauge the risk.
Dorms - most/all the workers have to undergo rostered routine testing where every infection is picked up. They are under different rules from people who live outside dorms who can use ARTs and recover at home without taking PCR tests. It's not that they are less strong - they probably are!MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042146\" time=\"1634140028\" user_id=\"43981:
Copy & paste..
\"MOH reported a total of 3,190 new Covid-19 infections on Wednesday, comprising 2,686 community cases, 498 cases among those living in dormitories and six imported cases\"
Now only symptomatic/with serious illness will need do PCR, am I right? and I would expect many cases don't need to be in the count after the broadened criteria for Home Recovery therefore we should be seeing quite huge drop in number., am I correct?
Why dormitory have so many then..they are generally stronger than our avg locals and likely quite a big proportion of reinfected cases? Meaning vaccinated possibly some with booster(?) acquired natural immunity, still can be considered 'serious' that warrant PCR test arh? Or vaccine effect really that low for those not yet gotten booster jab? And 52yo partial vaccinated with what multiple underlying medical conditions
Let's not be too negative... maybe just maybe clearing backlog :sad:
The underlying medical conditions that have been repeated many times in the past are almost always the same - diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, cancer....
Here's a recent list from the US CDC:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html -
zeit.\" post_id=\"2042120\" time=\"1634123944\" user_id=\"194295:
I agree that it's all very unsightly. But what to do? So little notice is given, and hawker centres and coffee shops don't have the means and manpower to do things nicely. Even malls don't. And since the rules change every few weeks, it would be waste to put up something nice (and more costly) only to tear it down in a while and put up something else. The MTF should just give up on making rules with little lead time and which are so poorly thought out - it's not like we are at the beginning of the pandemic when the fear of thousands dying was very real and snap decisions had to be taken. Now the situation is different, they should take a bit more time to think and plan!
I hope the orange nets and cordon tapes can be a lot tidier and neater. Now our UNESCO-recognised hawker centres look like they are in some a la ''construction site'' mess in a backward country. Saw some duct taped/cable-tied Safe Entry gateway readers on some wobbly stand or pole. Tsk, 成何体统! -
pirate\" post_id=\"2042150\" time=\"1634141014\" user_id=\"66252:
Ignore those NDP pennants leh. My point was Singapore's SMM installations are an eyesore that still exist today at 84% full vaccination rate. Why are they still here now when other developed countries don't need them? If they must, could they be more aesthetically installed?
Whoops! 3rd pic also?MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042148\" time=\"1634140667\" user_id=\"43981:
Those pictures brought back memories lol, filter color a little bit.
The 4th picture..still have national day decor is it?
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/shoppers-welcome-enhanced-covid-19-safety-measures-at-singapore-markets-hawker
https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/government-economy/singapore-faces-roadblock-along-endemic-roadmap-reintroduces-restrictions-as
Last year, it was just red duct tape and cling film. This year Town Councils decorated the tables with worksite orange nets + crime scene tapes + yellow barricades. We've been stuck in this vicious cycle of 2-pax, 5-pax, 8-pax, 5-pax, 2-pax, 2-pax fully vaccinated only. 没完没了，何时了？ People are C19-fatigued. So am I! :gloomy:
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/no-more-dining-in-at-hawker-centres-coffeeshops-restaurants-and-other-fb-outlets -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042146\" time=\"1634140028\" user_id=\"43981:
It's all about cooking the nos, dear. As I've said many times before, if you conscientiously bump up your base, your Case Fatality Rate and Infection Fatality Rate will look nice on paper. TBH, there's no need to ART so many sectors of residents if most of us are already inoculated.
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\"MOH reported a total of 3,190 new Covid-19 infections on Wednesday, comprising 2,686 community cases, 498 cases among those living in dormitories and six imported cases\"
Now only symptomatic/with serious illness will need do PCR, am I right? and I would expect many cases don't need to be in the count after the broadened criteria for Home Recovery therefore we should be seeing quite huge drop in number., am I correct?
Why dormitory have so many then..they are generally stronger than our avg locals and likely quite a big proportion of reinfected cases? Meaning vaccinated possibly some with booster(?) acquired natural immunity, still can be considered 'serious' that warrant PCR test arh? Or vaccine effect really that low for those not yet gotten booster jab? And 52yo partial vaccinated with what multiple underlying medical conditions
Let's not be too negative... maybe just maybe clearing backlog :sad:
Taiwan's CFR is so high cos they've stood down all their RSCs a month ago, hence Taiwan's 846 deaths looks terrifying but it's actually not a big deal for a 23.5 mil place, as is HK (213 deaths) which only carries out ambush swabbings in selected districts, not near-universal ART across the nation like Singapore.![](\"https://i.imgur.com/UyzwoPE.png\")
https://i.imgur.com/UyzwoPE.png\">
The dorm dwellers are also doing RRT, but some do fall ill. Haven't you seen those photos of dorm living conditions and videos of PRC group protests on Weixin & FB yesterday? \"2976例！数百名中国客工紧急求助：被困疫情核爆的新加坡宿舍，到处都是感染者、看医生难……\" \"中国客工爆料：新加坡宿舍疫情爆发、吃住环境差；爱心人士积极捐急需物资\".
Even FAST officers were deployed yesterday.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/westlite-jalan-tukang-dormitory-migrant-workers-mom-2242011 -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2042161\" time=\"1634170390\" user_id=\"28674:
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/up-to-500-vaccinated-migrant-workers-allowed-to-visit-community-each-week-as-part
Dorms - most/all the workers have to undergo rostered routine testing where every infection is picked up. They are under different rules from people who live outside dorms who can use ARTs and recover at home without taking PCR tests. It's not that they are less strong - they probably are!MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042146\" time=\"1634140028\" user_id=\"43981:
Copy & paste..
\"MOH reported a total of 3,190 new Covid-19 infections on Wednesday, comprising 2,686 community cases, 498 cases among those living in dormitories and six imported cases\"
Now only symptomatic/with serious illness will need do PCR, am I right? and I would expect many cases don't need to be in the count after the broadened criteria for Home Recovery therefore we should be seeing quite huge drop in number., am I correct?
Why dormitory have so many then..they are generally stronger than our avg locals and likely quite a big proportion of reinfected cases? Meaning vaccinated possibly some with booster(?) acquired natural immunity, still can be considered 'serious' that warrant PCR test arh? Or vaccine effect really that low for those not yet gotten booster jab? And 52yo partial vaccinated with what multiple underlying medical conditions
Let's not be too negative... maybe just maybe clearing backlog :sad:
The underlying medical conditions that have been repeated many times in the past are almost always the same - diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, cancer....
Here's a recent list from the US CDC:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html
Not long after NDP celebration, there was this pilot program whereby 500 fully vaccinated Foreign Workers from dormitories with ZERO Covid cases for the past two weeks were allowed to go shopping in our community (Little India, Mustafa etc).
These workers could then bring the virus back into their dorm, spread to the fellow workers because prior to this, the dorms had zero Covid cases.
Like what MKS brought up, it may be interesting to study whether these FWs in dormitories, where vaccination rate is more than 90% and with at least half of them having contracted Covid and recovered last year, did they get re-infected with COVID for the 2nd time??
If so, either the Delta variant is so different or more sinisterly, natural immunity doesn’t quite apply in densely packed community? -
:faint: not we see FW we siam, it's the other way round :sad:
Yeah dorm so many people how to do HR and let Art- go work..if only that day -ve leh? -
zeit.\" post_id=\"2042178\" time=\"1634183280\" user_id=\"194295:
Ignore those NDP pennants leh. My point was Singapore's SMM installations are an eyesore that still exist today at 84% full vaccination rate. Why are they still here now when other developed countries don't need them? If they must, could they be more aesthetically installed?
Whoops! 3rd pic also?pirate\" post_id=\"2042150\" time=\"1634141014\" user_id=\"66252:
[quote=MrsKiasu post_id=2042148 time=1634140667 user_id=43981]Those pictures brought back memories lol, filter color a little bit.
The 4th picture..still have national day decor is it?
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/shoppers-welcome-enhanced-covid-19-safety-measures-at-singapore-markets-hawker
https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/government-economy/singapore-faces-roadblock-along-endemic-roadmap-reintroduces-restrictions-as
Last year, it was just red duct tape and cling film. This year Town Councils decorated the tables with worksite orange nets + crime scene tapes + yellow barricades. We've been stuck in this vicious cycle of 2-pax, 5-pax, 8-pax, 5-pax, 2-pax, 2-pax fully vaccinated only. 没完没了，何时了？ People are C19-fatigued. So am I! :gloomy:
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/no-more-dining-in-at-hawker-centres-coffeeshops-restaurants-and-other-fb-outlets[/quote]Purposely poke poke..
But then the background have been made more beautiful le
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zeit.\" post_id=\"2042180\" time=\"1634185517\" user_id=\"194295:
China / Taiwan's case fatality rate is high because they did not count asymptomatic cases, causing denominator to be low and % is high. If they count asymptomic cases then the fatality rate will be lower.
Taiwan's CFR is so high cos they've stood down all their RSCs a month ago, hence Taiwan's 846 deaths looks terrifying but it's actually not a big deal for a 23.5 mil place, as is HK (213 deaths) which only carries out ambush swabbings in selected districts, not near-universal ART across the nation like Singapore.
Singapore's fatality rate actually rose 5 times from 0.06% prior to Aug 2021 to 0.21% after after Aug 2021 even when there were 80+% vaccinated.
While UK fatality rate dropped from 2.8% before vaccine/delta to 0.27% after delta and vaccine.
So this shows a clearer picture. To get a better picture, one should go to the hospitals to see how bad the situation is.
Many people dying. Medical staff stressed and some nurse cannot take it and leaving.
One should also open the ears to listen to the frequent number of ambulance sirens every few hours as they rush to hospital to save a life. Not just look at some general stats from an overseas hospital to comfort yourself that everything is ok here. -
![](\"https://i.imgur.com/ORFWLRb.jpeg\")
Top chart shows UK fatality rate flattening.
Bottom chart shows Singapore's fatality rate rising rapidly.
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