2022 PSLE Discussions & Strategies (born in 2010)
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I thought the difficulty of the papers has always been the same just like in all school exam papers. It is necessary to set at least different degree of difficulty of questions in order to differentiate the fine line. Especially so for Maths. If majority scores AL1, then balloting to top school will be even tougher. Right now MOE already said with the new AL system, there will be more balloting seen as compared to T-Score. Since there are only 29 permutation in AL system as compared to 200s permutation in T-Score.
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With or without any system, the exam papers are being set with different degree of difficulty, so much so that inherently a natural bell curve resulted.
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laughingcat\" post_id=\"2044204\" time=\"1635578555\" user_id=\"3309:
Hmm... I fail to see the difference between what I understand of the situation and your explanation. Of course students are first pruned in terms of citizenship and choice. I am referring to the case when computerized balloting takes place.
Chief, not by this way. Balloting out not by result rather is by citizenship and choice. For what I read, the remaining students of the same score vying for limited vacancy will be screened out based on Citizenship followed by choice orders. Only if citizenship status and school choice order are the same, then computerized balloting will be used to determine who to be admitted.
Ultimately, student with the better PSLE Score will be admitted ahead of a student with a poorer PSLE Score. Only if there is more than one student with the same PSLE Score vying for the last available place in a school, tie-breakers.
How does the student with the \"better\" score get admitted with AL now? Unless the system uses the raw scores of each student secretly during the balloting. Does it? -
This is what the school tells me. Let’s say 15 students of the same score vying for last 5 vacancies. Based on citizenship and choice orders (who place first choice), let’s say the 15 students reduces to 8 students. These 8 students of the same score, same citizenship and same choice orders will go through the computer balloting for the remaining 5 vacancies.
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laughingcat\" post_id=\"2044224\" time=\"1635590370\" user_id=\"3309:
That is exactly what I'm saying. 3 out of 8 students will not get a place in the school, and the worse thing is, in the exams, they could have scored marginally better than those that get in, but because of the coarseness of the scale, they were rated at the same level as the rest of the students.
This is what the school tells me. Let's say 15 students of the same score vying for last 5 vacancies. Based on citizenship and choice orders (who place first choice), let's say the 15 students reduces to 8 students. These 8 students of the same score, same citizenship and same choice orders will go through the computer balloting for the remaining 5 vacancies. -
ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2044246\" time=\"1635609646\" user_id=\"3:
To my understanding, the final 8 students having same citizenship and same choice order may score for example, from 91 to 99 and rated at the same level. Because of the computer balloting, the 5 students who finally get the place in their dream school may score 91 to 95 but the 3 unsuccessful students may score 96 to 99. And therefore this is the unfairness of the new system.
That is exactly what I'm saying. 3 out of 8 students will not get a place in the school, and the worse thing is, in the exams, they could have scored marginally better than those that get in, but because of the coarseness of the scale, they were rated at the same level as the rest of the students.laughingcat\" post_id=\"2044224\" time=\"1635590370\" user_id=\"3309:
This is what the school tells me. Let's say 15 students of the same score vying for last 5 vacancies. Based on citizenship and choice orders (who place first choice), let's say the 15 students reduces to 8 students. These 8 students of the same score, same citizenship and same choice orders will go through the computer balloting for the remaining 5 vacancies.
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ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2044192\" time=\"1635572955\" user_id=\"3:
The beauty of it all is that nobody will know who did slightly better or worse.
I find it strange that it seems we are reverting back to a balloting system even for P6, when we should have already 6 years to gauge if a certain student is suitable for some type of education. The problem is, most of the balloting would occur for students with good scores going for good secondary schools. Imagine the disappointment of a child who can't get into an elite school of his choice just because he was balloted out by people who may have done a bit worse than him in PSLE. That, to me, is the \"unfairness\" of the new system. -
Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2044247\" time=\"1635615770\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2044247 time=1635615770 user_id=195250]
To my understanding, the final 8 students having same citizenship and same choice order may score for example, from 91 to 99 and rated at the same level. Because of the computer balloting, the 5 students who finally get the place in their dream school may score 91 to 95 but the 3 unsuccessful students may score 96 to 99. And therefore this is the unfairness of the new system.[/quote]Not many things in this world is fair and square. The o-levels function the same way as well, do we say that it’s unfair too?ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2044246\" time=\"1635609646\" user_id=\"3:
That is exactly what I'm saying. 3 out of 8 students will not get a place in the school, and the worse thing is, in the exams, they could have scored marginally better than those that get in, but because of the coarseness of the scale, they were rated at the same level as the rest of the students.This is what the school tells me. Let's say 15 students of the same score vying for last 5 vacancies. Based on citizenship and choice orders (who place first choice), let's say the 15 students reduces to 8 students. These 8 students of the same score, same citizenship and same choice orders will go through the computer balloting for the remaining 5 vacancies.
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