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    Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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    • sevensealsS Offline
      sevenseals
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      sevenseals\" post_id=\"2045130\" time=\"1636168040\" user_id=\"124401:

      doctors suffer emotional pain when they see their patients die in their watch,
      especially if they know there is a cure in other countries but is not accessible here.
      Some of the doctors resign because they see so many deaths still 17 per day and cannot do anything about it other than just giving panadol, oxygen, which are not treatments at all. Even the steroids given are very weak. What happen to the Regeneron announced in Sept that it would be available in Oct.

      They were thinking why would they need doctors just to see patients die, paramedics can do the job. A doctor should be given leeway to administer medicines (which are available elsewhere, but not allowed in sg), otherwise they feel the blood of the dead on their hands.

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      • Liew Nga WingL Offline
        Liew Nga Wing
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        sevenseals\" post_id=\"2045418\" time=\"1636358001\" user_id=\"124401:

        sevenseals\" post_id=\"2045130\" time=\"1636168040\" user_id=\"124401:

        doctors suffer emotional pain when they see their patients die in their watch,
        especially if they know there is a cure in other countries but is not accessible here.

        Some of the doctors resign because they see so many deaths still 17 per day and cannot do anything about it other than just giving panadol, oxygen, which are not treatments at all. Even the steroids given are very weak. What happen to the Regeneron announced in Sept that it would be available in Oct.

        They were thinking why would they need doctors just to see patients die, paramedics can do the job. A doctor should be given leeway to administer medicines (which are available elsewhere, but not allowed in sg), otherwise they feel the blood of the dead on their hands.

        On the other hand, there are many Covid 19 patients recovery and discharge from hospital everyday. Our Doctors and Nurses have done a good jobs. Doctors in different Countries are using different ways to cure Covid 19, for example, in Mainland China, they are using some TCM herbal medicine, don't know whether Singaporeans can accept this kind of medicines.

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        • starlight1968sgS Offline
          starlight1968sg
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          Singapore, Malaysia to start VTL for quarantine-free air travel from Nov 29

          https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/singapore-malaysia-to-start-vtl-for-quarantine-free-air-travel-from-nov-29

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          • sevensealsS Offline
            sevenseals
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            Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2045422\" time=\"1636360798\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2045422 time=1636360798 user_id=195250]

            Doctors in different Countries are using different ways to cure Covid 19, for example, in Mainland China, they are using some TCM herbal medicine, don't know whether Singaporeans can accept this kind of medicines.[/quote]
            I have been compiling COVID statistics for countries around the world for many months and keeping it in an excel file.

            Though Singapore's death rate of 85 deaths per million (still rising) as of Nov 7 is lower than the Top 10 Most Resilient Nations in Bloomberg ranking,

            I have just found that 31 countries whose total populations of 952 million people, has the lowest death rate in the
            world. Their effective death rate is 41 deaths per million which is half of Singapore's rate. And their have tapered their Delta curve long ago and has stabilised their death rate, ie zero death now.

            In addition to very low vaccines percentage, due to lack of affordability, they are using anti-viral medicine that won
            Nobel Prize in 2015, western medicine.

            Will not share the stats on this platform, because this platform is just for chit chat only not serious discourse.

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            • Liew Nga WingL Offline
              Liew Nga Wing
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              sevenseals\" post_id=\"2045440\" time=\"1636365470\" user_id=\"124401:



              I have been compiling COVID statistics for countries around the world for many months and keeping it in an excel file.

              Though Singapore's death rate of 85 deaths per million (still rising) as of Nov 7 is lower than the Top 10 Most Resilient Nations in Bloomberg ranking,

              I have just found that 31 countries whose total populations of 952 million people, has the lowest death rate in the
              world. Their effective death rate is 41 deaths per million which is half of Singapore's rate. And their have tapered their Delta curve long ago and has stabilised their death rate, ie zero death now.

              In addition to very low vaccines percentage, due to lack of affordability, they are using anti-viral medicine that won
              Nobel Prize in 2015, western medicine.

              Will not share the stats on this platform, because this platform is just for chit chat only not serious discourse.
              There are many factors will affect the Covid 19 death rate of a country....for example, the age structure of population, the population density, the resources on Medical Sector etc...., not only the use of medicine.

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              • sevensealsS Offline
                sevenseals
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                Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2045441\" time=\"1636367086\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2045441 time=1636367086 user_id=195250]

                There are many factors will affect the Covid 19 death rate of a country....for example, the age structure of population, the population density, the resources on Medical Sector etc...., not only the use of medicine.[/quote]
                True. That's why I put aside my project work and spent the whole day today to calculate the population density of each of the 31 countries and compare with the Top 10 Bloomberg countries.

                The results surprised me. The 31 countries with low death has population density which is more than double
                that of of the Bloomberg Top 10. That is 53 pax per square km for 31 countries versus 24 pax per sq km for Bloomberg Top 10. So by right more densely populated place should have more spread and more death. But the observation is reverse.

                You mentioned resource of medical sector, you're right. But the 31 countries are all third world countries with
                poor facilities but yet their spread and death rate are much lower. Bloomberg Top 10 are developed nations with lots
                of medical resources, yet their spread and death rate many times worst than these 31 3rd world countries.

                You mentioned age structure of population. Also compared 31 countries with 22 neighbouring countries not using the anti-virals, It is a factor of 12, ie the 31 countries' death rate is 12 times better than their neighbouring countries with about the same age demographics. That is 41 death per million vs 509 death per million.

                This is beyond chit chat already. Out of the scope of this chat group.

                If you are interested, can pm you the medical paper written by Japanese National Institutes in Jan 2021. I am just updating the numbers.

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                • EstéemaE Offline
                  Estéema
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                  Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2045441\" time=\"1636367086\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2045441 time=1636367086 user_id=195250]
                  sevenseals\" post_id=\"2045440\" time=\"1636365470\" user_id=\"124401:


                  I have been compiling COVID statistics for countries around the world for many months and keeping it in an excel file.

                  Though Singapore's death rate of 85 deaths per million (still rising) as of Nov 7 is lower than the Top 10 Most Resilient Nations in Bloomberg ranking,

                  I have just found that 31 countries whose total populations of 952 million people, has the lowest death rate in the
                  world. Their effective death rate is 41 deaths per million which is half of Singapore's rate. And their have tapered their Delta curve long ago and has stabilised their death rate, ie zero death now.

                  In addition to very low vaccines percentage, due to lack of affordability, they are using anti-viral medicine that won
                  Nobel Prize in 2015, western medicine.

                  Will not share the stats on this platform, because this platform is just for chit chat only not serious discourse.
                  There are many factors will affect the Covid 19 death rate of a country....for example, the age structure of population, the population density, the resources on Medical Sector etc...., not only the use of medicine.[/quote]
                  Don’t forget the effectiveness of their tracking system, if there is any.

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                  • SG_KP1S Offline
                    SG_KP1
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                    Hopefully the secondary kids can have a normal year in 2022. I guess the primary kids still TBD (vaccine, etc)...


                    https://www.moe.gov.sg/news/press-releases/20211108-resuming-more-school-and-ihl-activities-to-support-the-holistic-development-and-well-being-of-students

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                    • zac's mumZ Offline
                      zac's mum
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                      Singapore to decide on Covid-19 vaccine for kids aged 5 to 11 in November


                      https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapore-to-decide-on-covid-19-vaccine-for-kids-aged-5-to-11-in-november

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                      • zac's mumZ Offline
                        zac's mum
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                        My P5 just took his Diptheria 3rd shot in school today. The entire class except 1-2 kids got very sore arms within 30min. A couple of them had fever earlier this evening but it has subsided.


                        Didn’t even recall having these symptoms during my time, but I guess now we’re more alert to such things.

                        I think they’re all quite open to getting the Covid vaccine next year.

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