2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

[Veyron]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2048946\" time=\"1637988367\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2048946 time=1637988367 user_id=53606]
The lowest possible permutation for 10 points is AL1 (90) + AL1 (90) + AL1(90) + AL7 (20).

Just saying.[/quote]

I have excluded AL7 or AL8 subject scores in my permutation as I find them to be unusual
AL6 is not because it covers 45 to 64 marks.

[Liew Nga Wing]

ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2048880\" time=\"1637976612\" user_id=\"3:

It is a matter of demand and supply, and this year its random, because if 2 kids are vying for the same place, and even though one is consistently slightly better than the other, they might end up with the same grades and bidding for the same school. In a bid, it might so happen that the one with slightly better grades lose out.

That is the key difference between t-scores and AL-scores, at least based on my understanding. So even if we are sure about how AL-scores are related to t-scores and we plan accordingly, things might turn out to be very different because of this uncertainty.

I'm sure t-scores and AL-scores are somewhat related, and you might have found the link. But how will it reduce concerns of parents getting their kids into their desired school? How can we defeat the randomness of balloting?

That's the last thing I'll say on this subject based on my limited knowledge, so no need to try to get me to understand. I'm stupid, I know, but sometimes it's a good thing...

Agree that we cannot \"defeat the randomness of balloting and things may turn out to be very differently due to this uncertainty\".

However, I believe parents will still try their best to study and analyse before deciding on their choice of school. The comparison between the past T-Scores and present AL- scores may be one of the methods for this analysis. In Chinese, we say \"尽人事，听天命\" (we try our best in our work but the result left it to the God's will).

I appreciate the hard work by everyone here trying to analyse and provide useful information to parents on their selection of schools.

[cj9404]

both COP of Maris Stella and Yishun Tow in 2020 was 239, but when it is mapped to AL, Maris Stella is 12 while Yishun Town is 13.


anyone can explain?

[Veyron]

cj9404\" post_id=\"2048966\" time=\"1637991264\" user_id=\"37200:

both COP of Maris Stella and Yishun Tow in 2020 was 239, but when it is mapped to AL, Maris Stella is 12 while Yishun Town is 13.

anyone can explain?

Simply because of different individual subject scores but with same 4 subjects combined score.

e.g (nothing related to 239)

AL 2 3 3 4 (AL12) 85 80 80 75 = 320

vs

AL 2 3 3 5 (AL13) 89 83 83 65 = 320

[floppy]

cj9404\" post_id=\"2048966\" time=\"1637991264\" user_id=\"37200:

both COP of Maris Stella and Yishun Tow in 2020 was 239, but when it is mapped to AL, Maris Stella is 12 while Yishun Town is 13.

anyone can explain?

NTUC Fairprice is selling 5 apples for $3.95.
NTUC Fairprice is also selling 5 oranges for $3.95.

Anyone still trying to figure out why an apple is not an orange?

[zac's mum]

But i like to be an auntie at the supermarket, actually i only like to eat apples, but i see other aunties all touching the oranges, maybe today i chiong for the oranges instead.

[SpongyBobs]

cj9404\" post_id=\"2048966\" time=\"1637991264\" user_id=\"37200:

both COP of Maris Stella and Yishun Tow in 2020 was 239, but when it is mapped to AL, Maris Stella is 12 while Yishun Town is 13.

anyone can explain?

I am no expert, so, I can be wrong..

If my understanding of MOE simulation is correct, it is a \"What If\" world. I don't think the Tscore COP = simulated AL COP. When generating AL COP:
1. MOE simply converted all Raw score to AL
2. Use the 6 choices of 2020 cohort, assuming they are now having AL instead of T-score
3. Simulate the algorithm
4. Voila, AL COP..

which means, the students who managed to make it into School A based on simulation may not be able to get in to the same school should T-score be used. The assumption that the all students in a specific school between the two exercises to be the same 300s individuals is not correct. Otherwise, there is no need for MOE to \"simulate\" AL-based placement. They can simply converted those students PSLE to AL and reported the indicative AL COP.

MOE indicative AL COP is good guideline. The largest margin of error came from students 6 choices, which can be entirely different should they were asked to do again using AL system.

[SpongyBobs]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2048978\" time=\"1637992804\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2048978 time=1637992804 user_id=53606]
But i like to be an auntie at the supermarket, actually i only like to eat apples, but i see other aunties all touching the oranges, maybe today i chiong for the oranges instead.[/quote]

WIll broccoli interest you? Now they are selling $1.3 each.. Just bought 2 myself..

[zac's mum]

SpongyBobs\" post_id=\"2048981\" time=\"1637993308\" user_id=\"196018:

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2048978\" time=\"1637992804\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2048978 time=1637992804 user_id=53606]But i like to be an auntie at the supermarket, actually i only like to eat apples, but i see other aunties all touching the oranges, maybe today i chiong for the oranges instead.

WIll broccoli interest you? Now they are selling $1.3 each.. Just bought 2 myself.. [/quote]

Oh no, now so many choices?? How to decide ah…let me see what my neighbour Ah Muay chooses…

[queenbee]

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2048935\" time=\"1637985325\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2048935 time=1637985325 user_id=58173]

queenbee\" post_id=\"2048930\" time=\"1637984845\" user_id=\"15775:

Hi Queenbee,

Which school do you or your son like better, Fairfield Methodist or ACS Barker? With AL13, no problem getting into either. Congratulations! your safety net is GM.

1. Fairfield Methodist 11
2. ACS Barker First 11
3. Maris Stella AL12
4. Geylang Methodist AL15

FYI. Both Fairfield Methodist and ACS Barker are Methodist schools, have affiliation to ACJC, are holistic and have a broad range of students. Fmss is co-ed whereas barker is a boys school.

Thanks so much! The info is encouraging! Can you please help me understand why with AL13 would be no problem getting into AL11? Both Fairfield Methodist and ACS Barker have affiliated primary schools. Thought would be risky? Much appreciate your advice.