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    2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

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    • ChiefKiasuC Offline
      ChiefKiasu
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      pjpolymer\" post_id=\"2049382\" time=\"1638103279\" user_id=\"24871:

      Is it possible to add Gender ratio at this chart? As this is quite important factor for COP for those boys or girls IP schools. This is the first year for AL system. As presumption, normally girls did better in language course as English and MTL while boys can catch up with high score with Math and Science. But for this year, 90 and 99 is no difference. There will be high chance COP of girls school lower than previous year. If the chart can provide more info for the gender ratio , it will be helpful
      Uhh... It's a bit late now, as the poll is going to be shut down within a couple of hours. There has already been some hacking of this simple poll by some very free people :siao: So your request will have to wait another year. Sorry.

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      • lee_ylL Offline
        lee_yl
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        Veyron\" post_id=\"2049394\" time=\"1638105407\" user_id=\"30663:

        lee_yl\" post_id=\"2049386\" time=\"1638104297\" user_id=\"17023:

        [quote=Veyron post_id=2049327 time=1638088022 user_id=30663]

        IMO your selection can be very risky.

        If choice 1 dream school COP got bumped up to AL9 and choice 2 and 3 conduct balloting for AL10, those place the school as 1st choice will get through first. So the student may now end up at choice 4 or 5.


        Furthermore not every parent or student chooses school solely on COP as well. And when it comes to S1 posting, its important to be realistic about dream school.

        If your grade doesn't meet the COP, there is really no point dreaming about it.

        Don’t you find yourself contradicting? You asked what if your first choice school got bumped up to AL9. Then why can’t COP AL9 school drop one point to AL10? The COP is not cast in stone, it will fluctuate as a function of supply and demand. If your dream school is a few points away then it is not very realistic but if it’s just one point away?

        If a student ends up with his 4th choice, it is still within his 6 choices, so still ok. If 1st to 3rd choice COP all AL10, and if student has to go for balloting so be it, nobody knows which school will conduct balloting at what COP, right?

        Not every parent/student chooses school solely on COP? No need see COP, if I like RI culture / CCA then I choose RI ah?

        The reason why COP is unlikely to move down is simply because

        a) 90 is the new 100
        b) 45 is the new 64
        c) Lowest possible t-score for every AL COP band is lower than the actual t-score COP for 2020

        Dont need to see COP in S1 posting? HAHAHA.

        For sure, I will bet you my last dollar that AL10, AL9, AL8 will not stand a chance in RI regardless how much you like RI culture[/quote]Are you laughing at yourself?

        Please put on your reading glasses and read carefully. Who is the one who claimed that not every parent/student choose school based solely on COP. By that I take it that someone thinks that the COP could be ignored.

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          pjpolymer
          last edited by

          ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2049400\" time=\"1638106007\" user_id=\"3:

          pjpolymer\" post_id=\"2049382\" time=\"1638103279\" user_id=\"24871:

          Is it possible to add Gender ratio at this chart? As this is quite important factor for COP for those boys or girls IP schools. This is the first year for AL system. As presumption, normally girls did better in language course as English and MTL while boys can catch up with high score with Math and Science. But for this year, 90 and 99 is no difference. There will be high chance COP of girls school lower than previous year. If the chart can provide more info for the gender ratio , it will be helpful

          Uhh... It's a bit late now, as the poll is going to be shut down within a couple of hours. There has already been some hacking of this simple poll by some very free people :siao: So your request will have to wait another year. Sorry.

          yup. It seems to add some restrictions for the same IP to vote multiplies next year also.

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          • TookiesT Offline
            Tookies
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            Khimmy\" post_id=\"2049398\" time=\"1638105886\" user_id=\"195546:

            Thank you! So there is no notification sent to the phone too right?
            You will receive posting results by sms.

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            • S Offline
              soloestoy
              last edited by

              Veyron\" post_id=\"2049394\" time=\"1638105407\" user_id=\"30663:

              The reason why COP is unlikely to move down is simply because

              a) 90 is the new 100
              b) 45 is the new 64
              c) Lowest possible t-score for every AL COP band is lower than the actual t-score COP for 2020

              Dont need to see COP in S1 posting? HAHAHA.

              For sure, I will bet you my last dollar that AL10, AL9, AL8 will not stand a chance in RI regardless how much you like RI culture
              Re: a) and b), isn't last year's indicative AL COP converted from last year's raw score? Can you explain the link between widening of AL band and the movement of COP which is a function of demand and supply

              Re c) How about \"highest possible t-score\" for every AL COP band? Isn't it MOE's intention to widen the band around the current t-scores.

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                soloestoy
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                iRabbit\" post_id=\"2049396\" time=\"1638105841\" user_id=\"51587:

                RI and RGS both have approx 400 Y1 students. I believe it’s a similar number for H/N as well.
                Saw on HCI website that cohort size is based on MOE allocation but believe they won't adjust it to 390 this year? 2022 and 2023 PSLE cohort size will drop to 37,000++ so perhaps MOE will make adjustments.

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                • KhimmyK Offline
                  Khimmy
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                  Tookies\" post_id=\"2049404\" time=\"1638106335\" user_id=\"124548:

                  You will receive posting results by sms.
                  Thank you!

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                    fairytale09
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                    Dear all parents,


                    My DS scored AL7. we couldn’t decide if IB or A level is a better choice for him.

                    Here is our choice order
                    1)ACSI IP (COP 7) - IB
                    2) NJC (COP 7)
                    3)HCI (COP 7M)
                    4) SJI IP (COP 😎 -IB
                    5) DHS (COP 8D)
                    6) CHS (COP8M)

                    otherwise 1st choice NJC. then 2nd HCI, 3rd…

                    the reason we didn’t choose HCI as 1st ,bcs we’re worried we wasted the 1st choice order since my kid has no HCL. and ASCI & NJC as second/ third option is even riskier, there is high chance ASCI and NJC tie break at AL7.

                    the reason why we still include it is because , we are "hoping" IF HCI 2021 COP happened to be AL8M, then we might be able to appeal?

                    I assumed the safety net is choice 4-6? or is it risky?

                    May I ask if our choices are logical? if we exclude IB, there’s not much IP school left and DS still prefers IP .
                    been so stress with the choice orders…

                    Many thanks in advance and all the best to everyone!

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                      Judyshim01
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                      Veyron\" post_id=\"2049381\" time=\"1638103258\" user_id=\"30663:

                      interesting analysis.

                      Does anyone know what is the cohort size of

                      RGS
                      RI
                      HCI
                      NYGH
                      It should be around 400 for each school if I am not wrong.

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                      • SG_KP1S Offline
                        SG_KP1
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                        forrestz\" post_id=\"2049328\" time=\"1638088181\" user_id=\"135905:

                        Some of the confusion over choice order and merit (AL score) is probably caused by a misestimate of the # of AL4 and AL5 students. If we assume the total % of AL4 + AL5 students is 3%, that translates to 1173 students. Of these, I guess at least half would already be admitted through DSA. That leaves about, let's say, 600 to go through S1 posting. Divide that by half gives 300 boys and 300 girls (more likely 200 boys vs. 400 girls). Unless they all somehow choose the same school as their first choice, then there is no possibility that AL4 or AL5 would not get into their first choices.

                        As many have said, no school has a COP below AL6. No point worrying about those lucky ones with AL4 and 5 -- they will all get in their first choice, while still leaving spaces (not sure how many though) in every school for the rest.
                        No one knows for sure but it is unclear to me whether students who enter via DSA Academic domains are strongly biased towards AL4s and AL5s vs. AL6s+ (obviously still very good scores).

                        In the past, I believe the vast majority of DSA Academic could meet the COP based on PSLE results. Part of this was due to the fact the very very high scores in your \"talent\" subject helped to boost the overall t-score. But under AL since 90 and 100 are both AL1, the subject geniuses no longer get any leverage out the best subject and AL4-AL5 means you are just good at everything (perhaps >90 should be described in a different way than \"just good\" 😂 ).

                        Combined with the fact that the AL COP will involve many more students than in the past, there's a reasonable case that the DSA Academic took out less of the supply of students \"well inside\" (i.e. high or best scorers) of the COP vs years past. Again, no one knows for sure, and I wouldn't suggest anyone behaves differently with their choices but it's something to think about.

                        That being said, there are definitely going to be students who got AL4-AL5 and also got a CO/WL converted (froma ll of academic, sports, leadership, CCA, etc); there's no shortage of really bright kids that work hard to put up great results!

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