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    2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

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    • passioninlearningP Offline
      passioninlearning
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      For parents who are still deliberating on the choice of schools and missed out on this post which I recently updated.

      https://passioninlearning.wordpress.com/2017/11/25/school-selection/

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        iRabbit
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        CGNG\" post_id=\"2049321\" time=\"1638087344\" user_id=\"66574:

        Hi.

        Appreciate someone advises on HCI vs RI in terms of stress level, school cultures and brotherhood spirit.

        Thanks.
        First off, let’s recognise that attending any top sch can be stressful in itself, much of which may be self-induced. One can be a top performer in pri sch, only to find himself below average studying in these 2 sch. This is bcoz almost everyone else - bar some DSA students - would also be a top performer in his pri sch.

        Well, somebody will be at the top, and somebody else has to be at the bottom.

        I feel that 2 traits are crucial for IP students to succeed. First is that one has to adjust his expectation. For 99% of the IP students out there, there will be someone smarter, more motivated, learn faster, score higher than himself. So kids have to learn to accept it’s alright not be at the top all the time, and not give oneself too much pressure to succeed. Also in IP, it’s challenging to be scoring > 90% like in pri sch. In fact, in RI, scoring 80% for a subject is already considered excellent and will be awarded the max GPA 4.0.

        The other trait I feel is paramount is that one has to be an independent learner. In this sense, the GEP kids do have an initial advantage due to their prior training. However, the motivated MS kids will catch up by end Y1, or at most at Y2. It’s nothing unsurmountable.

        How best to deal with stress is large dependent on individuals. As parents, we can be that assuring voice and safety net for our kids when they are faced with issues. We should focus on the effort and not solely on the result. It would greatly aid our kids when we seek to understand (not judge or reprimand) and offer a listening ear to their problems.

        As for culture and camaraderie, both sch published a ton of information at their respective websites. There’s no better place to search than there.

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          SpongyBobs
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          Khimmy\" post_id=\"2049398\" time=\"1638105886\" user_id=\"195546:

          Thank you! So there is no notification sent to the phone too right?
          Yeah.. We didn't get one.. Just the final form which we saved into pdf..

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          • SG_KP1S Offline
            SG_KP1
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            fairytale09\" post_id=\"2049408\" time=\"1638106778\" user_id=\"196098:

            Dear all parents,

            My DS scored AL7. we couldn't decide if IB or A level is a better choice for him.

            Here is our choice order
            1)ACSI IP (COP 7) - IB
            2) NJC (COP 7)
            3)HCI (COP 7M)
            4) SJI IP (COP 😎 -IB
            5) DHS (COP 8D)
            6) CHS (COP8M)

            otherwise 1st choice NJC. then 2nd HCI, 3rd.........

            the reason we didn't choose HCI as 1st ,bcs we're worried we wasted the 1st choice order since my kid has no HCL. and ASCI & NJC as second/ third option is even riskier, there is high chance ASCI and NJC tie break at AL7.

            the reason why we still include it is because , we are \"hoping\" IF HCI 2021 COP happened to be AL8M, then we might be able to appeal?

            I assumed the safety net is choice 4-6? or is it risky?

            May I ask if our choices are logical? if we exclude IB, there's not much IP school left and DS still prefers IP .
            been so stress with the choice orders....

            Many thanks in advance and all the best to everyone!
            Hello and congrats. With the general disclaimer that COPs can move up/down for reasons we can't predict here are my thoughts:

            #1. Without HCL, I think the logic on ACS(I) and NJC before HCI makes sense. You should be able to appeal to HCI if the COP is AL7 flat or AL8(D)+ (lower ranking score). Here is the appeal form HCI is using and the information they are looking for. I'd suggest you take a look at it and make some assessment of where you may stand (should AL7 be the COP). Either way, unless you have a need another space it would be fine to leave it in the #3 spot for hopes of an appeal.

            https://form.gov.sg/#!/6195dfd09b454c0015f594ef

            Or find the link here if you don't trust the link above:
            https://www.admissions.hci.edu.sg/

            #2. Everyone's risk tolerance is different but I would sleep better if my #6 choice was something with a higher AL COP (lower ranking score). I think this is particularly relevant here, given DHS and CHS are both SAP schools. In the event there are more lower (better) scores than last year (I'm not saying this will be the case) or choice patters are different and these two were to move to AL7 something (along with SJI IP), unfortunately you will be later in the queue again after those with HCL for two of the three schools here. To be clear, I don't think it's likely all three are AL7 something but I'd also just want a bit more certainty on the last choice (others may disagree here).

            Other IP options like VS (also AL8 though), TJC, or RVHS may provide a bit more comfort. Or one of the O-Level choices as a safety net even if that is not preferred.

            Congrats again and good luck!

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            • SG_KP1S Offline
              SG_KP1
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              ConfirmedNotGifted\" post_id=\"2049418\" time=\"1638108840\" user_id=\"75065:

              soloestoy\" post_id=\"2049320\" time=\"1638087214\" user_id=\"56690:

              Found this picture https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8pfHGzjGHbY/XeZwml_lAqI/AAAAAAABRFc/baagkOyA7WsgKIt5a9vYj3hjhEPwiHTpgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG-20191128-WA0002.jpg

              if it's true then:
              250+ can range from 12.9% in 2018 to 10% in 2019;
              240+ from 35% in 2018 to 23% in 2019.
              That means the number of AL8 to AL12 will fluctuate a lot from year to year?

              Don't worry, the figures are likely to be wrong. In the old way of PSLE T-Score, if there are 40,000 students, then the 20,000th student will have a T-score of 200. The figure for 2018 is definitely wrong.

              The part in bold is likely to be incorrect. If you get the average marks for each subject, your t-score will be 200.

              But that does not mean the Median (20,000 out of 40,000) t-score is also 200. In fact, 66% or so of the cohort typically qualified for Express, which would suggest the Median is > Mean.

              MOE also said this year that half the kids are scoring above 75 per subject (lowest mark in AL4). Yet Express was not set at AL16 total but AL20. I think this also suggests that the Median > Mean.

              I can't vouch for the numbers posted either way but I don't think it's obvious they are incorrect. If I recall correctly, 2019 PSLE Top 10% was 250 (HMT and Third Language Eligibility) so that looks about right if 2019 = 2019 PSLE (and not 2019 Sec 1).

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              • lee_ylL Offline
                lee_yl
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                fairytale09\" post_id=\"2049408\" time=\"1638106778\" user_id=\"196098:

                Dear all parents,

                My DS scored AL7. we couldn't decide if IB or A level is a better choice for him.

                Here is our choice order
                1)ACSI IP (COP 7) - IB
                2) NJC (COP 7)
                3)HCI (COP 7M)
                4) SJI IP (COP 😎 -IB
                5) DHS (COP 8D)
                6) CHS (COP8M)

                otherwise 1st choice NJC. then 2nd HCI, 3rd.........

                the reason we didn't choose HCI as 1st ,bcs we're worried we wasted the 1st choice order since my kid has no HCL. and ASCI & NJC as second/ third option is even riskier, there is high chance ASCI and NJC tie break at AL7.

                the reason why we still include it is because , we are \"hoping\" IF HCI 2021 COP happened to be AL8M, then we might be able to appeal?

                I assumed the safety net is choice 4-6? or is it risky?

                May I ask if our choices are logical? if we exclude IB, there's not much IP school left and DS still prefers IP .
                been so stress with the choice orders....

                Many thanks in advance and all the best to everyone!
                For me, I will pick ACS (I) over NJC.
                ACS (I) IB is strong and ACS (I) also a great place for networking.

                Actually you can remove your 3rd choice HCI because it is unlikely to drop to 8(M). In the event your DS meets the actual COP of HCI, you can always appeal. Then insert for 6th choice a school with COP AL9 (TJC or RVHS) as a safety net.

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                  Umaashok
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                  True. I agree. Thank you so much

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                    SpongyBobs
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                    lee_yl\" post_id=\"2049436\" time=\"1638112135\" user_id=\"17023:

                    For me, I will pick ACS (I) over NJC.
                    ACS (I) IB is strong and ACS (I) also a great place for networking.

                    Actually you can remove your 3rd choice HCI because it is unlikely to drop to 8(M). In the event your DS meets the actual COP of HCI, you can always appeal. Then insert for 6th choice a school with COP AL9 (TJC or RVHS) as a safety net.
                    Pardon me for asking.. For appeal to be considered, do we need to include the school in one of our 6 choices, or as long as we meet COP, we can try hantam?

                    Feel that with AL system, it s gonna be chaotic, and appeal processing time will take longer.

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                    • B Offline
                      bzbzmum
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                      Dear parents,


                      DD scored AL6(M)

                      Would the following three choices make sense:
                      1.NYGH
                      2.NJC
                      3.DHS

                      Many thanks in advance!

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                      • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                        Zeal mummy
                        last edited by

                        bzbzmum\" post_id=\"2049454\" time=\"1638121386\" user_id=\"132395:

                        Dear parents,

                        DD scored AL6(M)

                        Would the following three choices make sense:
                        1.NYGH
                        2.NJC
                        3.DHS

                        Many thanks in advance!
                        Congratulations, your child did well! Your choices looks good and if the data from last year is accurate for this year, your child will be accepted into NYGH for 2022. Please take note that the school fees for Independent schools are much higher compared to the other schools.

                        https://www.moe.gov.sg/education-in-sg/our-schools/types-of-schools

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