2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)
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Veyron\" post_id=\"2049743\" time=\"1638187601\" user_id=\"30663:
Dear Veyron, is there a list of AL to T score conversion?
One way to analyse the balloting risk in S1 application is actually to compare the actual 2020 T-score COP against the lowest possible t-score for 2021 indicative AL COP. (or you can convert 2020 t-score to raw score and use AL COP raw score for comparison)
If 2020 t-score COP is higher than AL COP lowest possible t-score, then ballot risk will be high. And the wider the gap the higher the risk.
e.g.
2020 COP - RGS 260, RI 259, MGS 258
2021 indicative AL COP (AL6) - (Lowest possible score for AL6 is 258)
RGS 260 - 258 = +2 (high)
RI 258 - 258 = +1 (med)
MGS 258 - 258 = 0 (low)
The risk level for AL6 applicants can be ranked by high medium or low.
In my earlier example, I have highlighted the risk level of AL11 COP school with 2020 t-score COP of 244
AL11 lowest possible t-score = 224
1) Chung Cheng Main 244 - 224 = +20
2) Nan Chiau 244 - 224 = +20
3) Maris Stella 239 - 224 = +15
From this example, we can say that the balloting risk are higher for the 1 and 2
It's mind boggling - how do i convert AL14 to T-score pls -
Veyron\" post_id=\"2049743\" time=\"1638187601\" user_id=\"30663:
I've hardly seen students who gets over 85 or 90 marks for 3 subject and below 45 for another subject. Your example looks very extreme.
One way to analyse the balloting risk in S1 application is actually to compare the actual 2020 T-score COP against the lowest possible t-score for 2021 indicative AL COP. (or you can convert 2020 t-score to raw score and use AL COP raw score for comparison)
If 2020 t-score COP is higher than AL COP lowest possible t-score, then ballot risk will be high. And the wider the gap the higher the risk.
e.g.
2020 COP - RGS 260, RI 259, MGS 258
2021 indicative AL COP (AL6) - (Lowest possible score for AL6 is 258)
RGS 260 - 258 = +2 (high)
RI 258 - 258 = +1 (med)
MGS 258 - 258 = 0 (low)
The risk level for AL6 applicants can be ranked by high medium or low.
In my earlier example, I have highlighted the risk level of AL11 COP school with 2020 t-score COP of 244
AL11 lowest possible t-score = 224
1) Chung Cheng Main 244 - 224 = +20
2) Nan Chiau 244 - 224 = +20
3) Maris Stella 239 - 224 = +15
From this example, we can say that the balloting risk are higher for the 1 and 2 -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2049758\" time=\"1638191370\" user_id=\"17023:
I think so. With Same point —-> citizen get the seat first not PR. if both are citizen, then the choice order counts now.
Regarding Citizenship comes first before balloting, can someone helps to clarify:
Student A - Singapore citizen, AL8, puts SCGS as 2nd choice
Student B - PR, AL8, puts SCGS as 1st choice.
Citizenship comes first means student A will be considered first or student B? -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2049758\" time=\"1638191370\" user_id=\"17023:
Hi Lee_yl,
Regarding Citizenship comes first before balloting, can someone helps to clarify:
Student A - Singapore citizen, AL8, puts SCGS as 2nd choice
Student B - PR, AL8, puts SCGS as 1st choice.
Citizenship comes first means student A will be considered first or student B?
The student A will be posted to SCGS first. This is based on the order of “Merit-Citizenship-Choice-Ballot”. Since both have AL8, the Singaporean (citizenship) will be posted in first.
Take note that this tie-breaker is used only if they are vying for the last available place(s) in the school, for this case SCGS.
Note also that: Students will only be balloted when those vying for the last place(s) in the same school have the same psle score, citizenship and choice order of schools. -
MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2049744\" time=\"1638187921\" user_id=\"2964:
Maybe can i ask a bit more , so the score range (6M - 9M) is considered based on last year admission, is 6M the highest score and 9M as the lowest score to enter Cat High?
Non affiliated students entering Cat High should be more than 20%. The affiliated students do not hit 80%.
And the 9M you see has already accounted for affiliated students going in.
I am just thinking if the 6M and 9M is a conversion from last year T score, and i take it as maybe non affiliated is 30%, around 45 students, could it be chances that one possible variant, is that 42 of them entered from 6M - 8P (higher than current AL8) and leaving remaining 3 is at AL8/AL 9(D)/AL 9(M) taking last year T score as example (and they managed to get in as T Score is different)....... understand I thinking too much already but can't deny it might be, and seeing even AL6/7 also facing some unsure situation when choosing their school of choice, therefore somehow looking at this year AL system doesn't give me the confidence that AL 8 might have chances for it.
Sorry for this, but maybe I just sort of over worrying but nevertheless, thanks for the info.
Thanks you very much. -
Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2049747\" time=\"1638189333\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2049747 time=1638189333 user_id=58173]
Thank you Zeal mummy , I will put Nanhua high for the last choice .
No it doesn’t work that way. After your first few “serious” choices, 5/6 should be safety nets. Pick one school that you don’t mind going into in case of anomaly. You can put Catholic high O-levels or Nanhua high, after your 4th choice RVHS.[/quote] -
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Timmy21\" post_id=\"2049356\" time=\"1638095214\" user_id=\"122721:
Thank you for the advice!!
RV placed at the third choice is a strong safety net, so no harm trying for NYGH and NJC in the first two choices.
Dear parents, gurus.
Please give any opinion for my girl. :?: :?: :?:
My girl Is PR with 7(M) and NYGH, NJC, RVHS are her top 3 choice.
I also think for NYGH she has high chance for balloting.
As ‘PR’ student who has lower priority may not be seated with only 7M(NYGH’s COP).
Also for NJC(cop 7), same situation may happen.
Then my concern is that RVHS(COP9) is on her 3rd choice order.
But there might be many 7D,7M citizen student and even PRs who put RVHS as 1st or 2nd choice.
Even worse, some 5,6 pointers already secured the seats in RVHS.
So she will lose all 1st, 2nd, 3rd choice school????
This might be the extreme assumption but I cannot get out of this big dilemma and still not decided yet.
How to do? Better give up 1 choice either NYGH or NJC to secure RVHS?
Any opinion will be appreciated. Thank you
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This week is really a stressful week for PSLE parents. I do hope MOE can really look into what we parents are going through… I have been thinking, where is the advantage being a singaporean? Why can’t our singapore top schools filled with singaporeans first.
Honestly, why should a singaporean P6 student have to compete with foreigners, after all they will be going back to their own country? Shouldn’t the top schools cater for singaporean first. I think having AL 8, can still do well in RGS or RI. Why should singaporean fight for a placing in top schools. Competition among singaporean is more than enough. Losing to a singaporean, I think is fair…I think we should have more than enough AL 4-8 students to fill up the top schools.
Shouldn’t MOE change the merit first to citizen first? -
Provides an indication of where my kid stand compared to the rest of the cohort. Maybe also help to give a sense of confidence (calculated risk) in selecting a school with slightly lower COP
putien\" post_id=\"2049305\" time=\"1638082304\" user_id=\"29927:
Clean up is done, poll will close tonight 2359. Will do a final cleanup after that if necessary.
Just curious how the poll helps for your use case? -
Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2049769\" time=\"1638193626\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2049769 time=1638193626 user_id=58173]
Hi Lee_yl,
The student A will be posted to SCGS first. This is based on the order of “Merit-Citizenship-Choice-Ballot”. Since both have AL8, the Singaporean (citizenship) will be posted in first.
Take note that this tie-breaker is used only if they are vying for the last available place(s) in the school, for this case SCGS.
Note also that: Students will only be balloted when those vying for the last place(s) in the same school have the same psle score, citizenship and choice order of schools.[/quote]
This reminds me. Don’t flame me but from what can be seen in the top IP schools (eg school events or what’s app and we-chat groups) there is indeed a good proportion of non Singaporeans in these schools in the cohort. Similarly, in most “good” primary schools, there is a good proportion of top scorers who are non Singaporeans. This could mean that Singaporeans might stand a better chance in this AL posting if they dare to take a calculated risk. So parents, please make your choices wisely. Sometimes the winners are the ones who dares to take that calculated risk. Good luck!
:xedfingers:
No offence to the non Singaporeans parents out there. Just have to recognize the rules of the new game and plan accordingly. Good luck too!
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