2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

[babyA]

MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2049562\" time=\"1638156617\" user_id=\"2964:

I just want to point out that whatever indicative cop you see for any school, has already accounted for the affiliated students. So there is no need to be overly concerned to relate the effect of cop for non affiliated students in a sec school where they accept affiliated students.

Affiliated students have been acceped into the schools for decades. It is not a new thing. In fact, since psle 2019, it has even been mandated that the sec schs need to set aside a min for non affiliated students, vs before that, they could take in everyone.

So again, no need to be overly concerned about the impact of the presence of affiliated pri schools on its cop.

Hi Merlion
Thanks for your assurance. Do you mean the order i've chosen is ok to remain as is?

[babyA]

MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2049562\" time=\"1638156617\" user_id=\"2964:

I just want to point out that whatever indicative cop you see for any school, has already accounted for the affiliated students. So there is no need to be overly concerned to relate the effect of cop for non affiliated students in a sec school where they accept affiliated students.

Affiliated students have been acceped into the schools for decades. It is not a new thing. In fact, since psle 2019, it has even been mandated that the sec schs need to set aside a min for non affiliated students, vs before that, they could take in everyone.

So again, no need to be overly concerned about the impact of the presence of affiliated pri schools on its cop.

Hi Merlion
Thanks for your assurance. Do you mean the order i've chosen is ok to remain as is?

[babyA]

SpongyBobs\" post_id=\"2049675\" time=\"1638171845\" user_id=\"196018:

Hi babyA

I am sorry for earlier calling your order of choices odd. I found them inappropriate. I believe you had your reasons to line them up as what you earlier had. Like what you just mentioned that you leave SMSS (AL11, -3 from your DD AL) for the rare chance of appealing.

1) CHIJ SJC (13)
2) TKGS (13)
3) CHIJ KC (15)
4) SMSS (11)
5) SAC (15)
6) CHIJ STC (13)

I am also not familiar with mid-range girl schools. In my personal opinion, if your DD is strongly leaning towards CHIJ (SJC) and TKGS, you can go for it.

Maybe another safety net (school with AL16 COP) at 6th choice instead of CHIJ (STC) at AL13. But that can be just me, as I am more towards plan B / plan C type of person.

With the uncertainties this year (first time AL based sec1 posting), gotta use all 6 choices wisely (although sometimes our DD/DS just have those 2-3 preferred schools), instead of placed some as fillers.

Hi Spongy
Thanks for your advice, i agree that 6 could be a better choice - the problem is there's no other girls school choice

[babyA]

SJV2608\" post_id=\"2049693\" time=\"1638174372\" user_id=\"188063:

Hi merlion in germany went to do a bit more reading up in the other thread. For CHIJ ( SJC ) the last post was in 2020 nothing new. It has been said that the environment is conducive but is not academically strong . Known notorious school back in year 2012/14 .

Both issues i have on CHIJ ( SJC ) and PHS is equally concerned . Its really such a struggle and if i were to drop these 2 schools and moved 456 up i still need another subsitute school ?

Thank you with regards on bowen n holy. will have a final look .

Hi SJV i looked up the graduates from SJC - there's a few well-known figures e.g WP lawyer. If you look up SAC notable alumni....i'm not sure if they are notable....

[babyA]

Veyron\" post_id=\"2049743\" time=\"1638187601\" user_id=\"30663:

One way to analyse the balloting risk in S1 application is actually to compare the actual 2020 T-score COP against the lowest possible t-score for 2021 indicative AL COP. (or you can convert 2020 t-score to raw score and use AL COP raw score for comparison)

If 2020 t-score COP is higher than AL COP lowest possible t-score, then ballot risk will be high. And the wider the gap the higher the risk.

e.g.
2020 COP - RGS 260, RI 259, MGS 258
2021 indicative AL COP (AL6) - (Lowest possible score for AL6 is 258)

RGS 260 - 258 = +2 (high)
RI 258 - 258 = +1 (med)
MGS 258 - 258 = 0 (low)

The risk level for AL6 applicants can be ranked by high medium or low.

In my earlier example, I have highlighted the risk level of AL11 COP school with 2020 t-score COP of 244
AL11 lowest possible t-score = 224

1) Chung Cheng Main 244 - 224 = +20
2) Nan Chiau 244 - 224 = +20
3) Maris Stella 239 - 224 = +15

From this example, we can say that the balloting risk are higher for the 1 and 2

Dear Veyron, is there a list of AL to T score conversion?
It's mind boggling - how do i convert AL14 to T-score pls

[Judyshim01]

Veyron\" post_id=\"2049743\" time=\"1638187601\" user_id=\"30663:

One way to analyse the balloting risk in S1 application is actually to compare the actual 2020 T-score COP against the lowest possible t-score for 2021 indicative AL COP. (or you can convert 2020 t-score to raw score and use AL COP raw score for comparison)

If 2020 t-score COP is higher than AL COP lowest possible t-score, then ballot risk will be high. And the wider the gap the higher the risk.

e.g.
2020 COP - RGS 260, RI 259, MGS 258
2021 indicative AL COP (AL6) - (Lowest possible score for AL6 is 258)

RGS 260 - 258 = +2 (high)
RI 258 - 258 = +1 (med)
MGS 258 - 258 = 0 (low)

The risk level for AL6 applicants can be ranked by high medium or low.

In my earlier example, I have highlighted the risk level of AL11 COP school with 2020 t-score COP of 244
AL11 lowest possible t-score = 224

1) Chung Cheng Main 244 - 224 = +20
2) Nan Chiau 244 - 224 = +20
3) Maris Stella 239 - 224 = +15

From this example, we can say that the balloting risk are higher for the 1 and 2

I've hardly seen students who gets over 85 or 90 marks for 3 subject and below 45 for another subject. Your example looks very extreme.

[Deepblue365]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2049758\" time=\"1638191370\" user_id=\"17023:

Regarding Citizenship comes first before balloting, can someone helps to clarify:

Student A - Singapore citizen, AL8, puts SCGS as 2nd choice

Student B - PR, AL8, puts SCGS as 1st choice.

Citizenship comes first means student A will be considered first or student B?

I think so. With Same point —-> citizen get the seat first not PR. if both are citizen, then the choice order counts now.

[Zeal mummy]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2049758\" time=\"1638191370\" user_id=\"17023:

Regarding Citizenship comes first before balloting, can someone helps to clarify:

Student A - Singapore citizen, AL8, puts SCGS as 2nd choice

Student B - PR, AL8, puts SCGS as 1st choice.

Citizenship comes first means student A will be considered first or student B?

Hi Lee_yl,

The student A will be posted to SCGS first. This is based on the order of “Merit-Citizenship-Choice-Ballot”. Since both have AL8, the Singaporean (citizenship) will be posted in first.

Take note that this tie-breaker is used only if they are vying for the last available place(s) in the school, for this case SCGS.

Note also that: Students will only be balloted when those vying for the last place(s) in the same school have the same psle score, citizenship and choice order of schools.

[Ah ye 1979]

MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2049744\" time=\"1638187921\" user_id=\"2964:

Non affiliated students entering Cat High should be more than 20%. The affiliated students do not hit 80%.
And the 9M you see has already accounted for affiliated students going in.

Maybe can i ask a bit more , so the score range (6M - 9M) is considered based on last year admission, is 6M the highest score and 9M as the lowest score to enter Cat High?

I am just thinking if the 6M and 9M is a conversion from last year T score, and i take it as maybe non affiliated is 30%, around 45 students, could it be chances that one possible variant, is that 42 of them entered from 6M - 8P (higher than current AL8) and leaving remaining 3 is at AL8/AL 9(D)/AL 9(M) taking last year T score as example (and they managed to get in as T Score is different)....... understand I thinking too much already but can't deny it might be, and seeing even AL6/7 also facing some unsure situation when choosing their school of choice, therefore somehow looking at this year AL system doesn't give me the confidence that AL 8 might have chances for it.

Sorry for this, but maybe I just sort of over worrying but nevertheless, thanks for the info.

Thanks you very much.

[soul_starry]

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2049747\" time=\"1638189333\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2049747 time=1638189333 user_id=58173]
No it doesn’t work that way. After your first few “serious” choices, 5/6 should be safety nets. Pick one school that you don’t mind going into in case of anomaly. You can put Catholic high O-levels or Nanhua high, after your 4th choice RVHS.[/quote]

Thank you Zeal mummy , I will put Nanhua high for the last choice .