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    2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

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    • ChiefKiasuC Offline
      ChiefKiasu
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      Veyron\" post_id=\"2052863\" time=\"1640168583\" user_id=\"30663:

      Students with the same AL score will be categorised into sub-groupings and the sub group will arrange in the order of

      Singapore/PR/Foreigners, follow by choice order of school. Balloting will be done for the last subgroup which contains more students than available vacancies.

      e.g. for illustration, if there are 15 vacancies for AL6 and there are 30 applicants, the 30 applicants will be arranged according to subgroup.

      Subgroup 1 ( AL6 + SG + Choice 1) 8 students
      Subgroup 2 (AL6 + PR + Choice 1) 2 students
      Subgroup 3 (AL6 + IS + Choice 1) 10 students
      Subgroup 4 (AL6 + SG + Choice 2) 2 student
      Subgroup 5 (AL6 + PR + Choice 2) 5 students
      Subgroup 6 (AL6 + IS + Choice 2) 3 students

      Since there are 15 vacancies left, only subgroup 3 will have balloting because all student in subgroup 1 and 2 has given priority, while subgroup 4 5 and 6 have no chance even with same AL6 scores.
      ...
      I think this is the best explanation of the process so far. Well done!

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        AngMoKP
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        ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2052869\" time=\"1640169783\" user_id=\"3:

        I think this is the best explanation of the process so far. Well done!
        This is not correct because citizenship trumps choice order.

        Subgroup 1 gets first priority.
        Subgroup 4 get second priority. SG citizens rank ahead of PRs and foreigners irrespective of choice order.

        In this example, where there are 15 places:
        8 get in from subgroup 1 (SG + 1st choice)
        then 2 from subgroup 4 (SG + 2nd choice)
        then 2 from subgroup 2 (PR + 1st choice)
        then the remaining 3 spots are balloted among the 10 students in subgroup 3 (IS + 1st choice)

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          Timmy21
          last edited by

          Veyron\" post_id=\"2052863\" time=\"1640168583\" user_id=\"30663:

          Students with the same AL score will be categorised into sub-groupings and the sub group will arrange in the order of

          Singapore/PR/Foreigners, follow by choice order of school. Balloting will be done for the last subgroup which contains more students than available vacancies.

          e.g. for illustration, if there are 15 vacancies for AL6 and there are 30 applicants, the 30 applicants will be arranged according to subgroup.

          Subgroup 1 ( AL6 + SG + Choice 1) 8 students
          Subgroup 2 (AL6 + PR + Choice 1) 2 students
          Subgroup 3 (AL6 + IS + Choice 1) 10 students
          Subgroup 4 (AL6 + SG + Choice 2) 2 student
          Subgroup 5 (AL6 + PR + Choice 2) 5 students
          Subgroup 6 (AL6 + IS + Choice 2) 3 students

          Since there are 15 vacancies left, only subgroup 3 will have balloting because all student in subgroup 1 and 2 has given priority, while subgroup 4 5 and 6 have no chance even with same AL6 scores.


          So for RI and RGS, I reckon there will be a large pool of AL6 students who apply RI/RGS as the first choice and they are all Singaporeans. MOE will likely use the same balloting approach as primary school enrollment. Doesn't need to be anything fancy.
          I don't think the flow is correct, because citizenship status is at a higher priority than the order of choice. So, group 4 will be taken first before group 2. But I might be mistaken.

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            AngMoKP
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            Jinjin1982\" post_id=\"2052864\" time=\"1640169318\" user_id=\"196468:

            NJC and St Nicks are also AL7 schools
            Yes, sorry. That's right

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            • VeyronV Offline
              Veyron
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              Timmy21\" post_id=\"2052874\" time=\"1640170550\" user_id=\"122721:

              I don't think the flow is correct, because citizenship status is at a higher priority than the order of choice. So, group 4 will be taken first before group 2. But I might be mistaken.

              According to MOE website.

              S1 Posting Tie-Breakers (in order of priority)

              1) Citizenship (priority given to Singapore Citizens, followed by Permanent Residents and International Students)
              2) Choice order of schools [NEW]
              3) Computerised balloting

              https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle-fsbb/posting-to-secondary-school/changes-to-s1-posting.html#:~:text=Tie%2Dbreakers%20are%20used%20only,for%20admissions%20to%20SAP%20schools.

              My interpretation of the above is that SG will be given the priority if they select the same choice.

              MOE tie-breaker illustration is also not conclusive.

              https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle-fsbb/assets/infographics/new-psle-scoring-system/tie-breaker.pdf

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              • ChiefKiasuC Offline
                ChiefKiasu
                last edited by

                AngMoKP\" post_id=\"2052873\" time=\"1640170483\" user_id=\"194548:

                This is not correct because citizenship trumps choice order.

                Subgroup 1 gets first priority.
                Subgroup 4 get second priority. SG citizens rank ahead of PRs and foreigners irrespective of choice order.

                In this example, where there are 15 places:
                8 get in from subgroup 1 (SG + 1st choice)
                then 2 from subgroup 4 (SG + 2nd choice)
                then 2 from subgroup 2 (PR + 1st choice)
                then the remaining 3 spots are balloted among the 10 students in subgroup 3 (IS + 1st choice)
                Oh yes! You are right. But I like that way he explained the process.

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                  hakkeem
                  last edited by

                  Veyron\" post_id=\"2052863\" time=\"1640168583\" user_id=\"30663:

                  Students with the same AL score will be categorised into sub-groupings and the sub group will arrange in the order of

                  Singapore/PR/Foreigners, follow by choice order of school. Balloting will be done for the last subgroup which contains more students than available vacancies.

                  e.g. for illustration, if there are 15 vacancies for AL6 and there are 30 applicants, the 30 applicants will be arranged according to subgroup.

                  Subgroup 1 ( AL6 + SG + Choice 1) 8 students
                  Subgroup 2 (AL6 + PR + Choice 1) 2 students
                  Subgroup 3 (AL6 + IS + Choice 1) 10 students
                  Subgroup 4 (AL6 + SG + Choice 2) 2 student
                  Subgroup 5 (AL6 + PR + Choice 2) 5 students
                  Subgroup 6 (AL6 + IS + Choice 2) 3 students

                  Since there are 15 vacancies left, only subgroup 3 will have balloting because all student in subgroup 1 and 2 has given priority, while subgroup 4 5 and 6 have no chance even with same AL6 scores.


                  So for RI and RGS, I reckon there will be a large pool of AL6 students who apply RI/RGS as the first choice and they are all Singaporeans. MOE will likely use the same balloting approach as primary school enrollment. Doesn't need to be anything fancy.
                  I think,
                  Subgroup 1 ( AL6 + SG + Choice 1) 8 students
                  Subgroup 4 (AL6 + SG + Choice 2) 2 student
                  Subgroup 2 (AL6 + PR + Choice 1) 2 students
                  Subgroup 5 (AL6 + PR + Choice 2) 5 students
                  Subgroup 3 (AL6 + IS + Choice 1) 10 students


                  Subgroup 6 (AL6 + IS + Choice 2) 3 students

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                  • m3i_m3iM Offline
                    m3i_m3i
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                    Veyron\" post_id=\"2052878\" time=\"1640171898\" user_id=\"30663:

                    3) Computerised balloting

                    https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle-fsbb/posting-to-secondary-school/changes-to-s1-posting.html#:~:text=Tie%2Dbreakers%20are%20used%20only,for%20admissions%20to%20SAP%20schools.

                    My interpretation of the above is that SG will be given the priority if they select the same choice.

                    MOE tie-breaker illustration is also not conclusive.

                    https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle-fsbb/assets/infographics/new-psle-scoring-system/tie-breaker.pdf
                    All SCs will be given priority before PRs, regardless their order
                    AL6 SC order 6 will get the priority before AL6 PR order 1.

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                    • VeyronV Offline
                      Veyron
                      last edited by

                      m3i_m3i\" post_id=\"2052882\" time=\"1640173086\" user_id=\"18745:

                      All SCs will be given priority before PRs, regardless their order
                      AL6 SC order 6 will get the priority before AL6 PR order 1.
                      Maybe this is the part.

                      Citizenship status will be the first tie-breaker, followed by school choice order. Students will only be balloted when those vying for the last place(s) in the same school have the same PSLE Score, citizenship and choice order of schools.

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                      • MerlionInGermanyM Offline
                        MerlionInGermany
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                        Veyron\" post_id=\"2052885\" time=\"1640173308\" user_id=\"30663:

                        Can you share MOE source of the above information?
                        It is in the choose your secondary school booklet, on page 3.

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