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    2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Primary 6 & PSLE
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    • sky minecrafterS Offline
      sky minecrafter
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      Hi. Some frens' experiences this round were 😰 - (I don't know how they ranked their choices) they met their 1st choice cut-offs (which are = simulated), yet balloted to schools 5 AL points away...

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      • zac's mumZ Offline
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        Possibly: many people who scored same score as them…chose the exact same choices in same order?


        I think you’d have to list the choices in very tight descending order based on the indicative COP to be balloted out repeatedly…eg:

        Scored 7D, chose:
        1. School with indicative COP 7D (balloted out)
        2. School with indicative COP 7 (balloted out)
        3. School with indicative COP 8M (unfortunately became 8D, balloted out)
        4. School with indicative COP 8 (unfortunately -1 became 7, balloted out)
        5. School with indicative COP 9 (unfortunately -2 became 7, balloted out)
        6. “Safety net” non-IP school with indicative COP 12, got in this one

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        • SG_KP1S Offline
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          At least in IP, the COPs didn’t move much though (to blow through 5 choices). The commotion was more that there did appear to have been a fair amount of ballot out first choice, fall until whatever choice is a lower ranking COP until the system catches you though (i.e. second or third choice also no chance or no luck).


          In contrast, if I score AL11 and try Crescent Girls and Nau Hua High as first two choices but get ballot out of both (or miss the SAP COP via HCL grade) and then not willing to travel to Anglican (or try other AL11 SAP O level), my next choice could be several AL COPs away…

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          • zac's mumZ Offline
            zac's mum
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            There’s a whole clump of COP 13, 14, 15 schools as well. I wonder any big movements there…

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            • SG_KP1S Offline
              SG_KP1
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              TKGS, TSS, TKSS were all stable (assume forum reporting is accurate) vs. indicative COP. Not sure about others…

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              • JGMumJ Offline
                JGMum
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                zac's mum\" post_id=\"2053069\" time=\"1640261176\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2053069 time=1640261176 user_id=53606]
                Just wondering whether there were any big shocks, especially further down the tiers.

                I know the news outlets reported MOE as saying “most” schools did not veer more than 1 point off the indicative COP, but how “most is most”? What was the largest drop or rise? Would be interesting to know.

                Some people on MOE’s FB were furious to be posted to a school NOT in one of the list of 6 choices, and out of their neighborhood. I wonder what happened there…[/quote]
                I am wondering, could it be some of them misunderstood the ranking priority since this is the first year of the new AL system? E.g. some of the people I know (including DH) initially thought that Choice Order has priority over Merit, and this could have affected how they list their 6 choices.

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                • bbbayB Offline
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                  radiant00\" post_id=\"2053028\" time=\"1640245277\" user_id=\"118087:

                  I would say it is quite subjective. There is no better or worse, it's just parents' perception that \"we think\" what's best for kids. it is always ideal to be with people who are competitive and at the same time cooperative & helpful, however real life is always not perfect and we should use our experience to conclude: which one is more important for my kid.
                  My opinion is, what is needed in real life, are people that can compete, compromise and cooperate.

                  As a parent I hope my children can compete, and also compromise among themselves, and cooperate with their siblings and classmate.

                  As a boss I hope the team can compete professionally, compromise and cooperate among themselves too to get work done.

                  As a citizen of our current world, I hope the
                  leaders not only compete , but also compromise and cooperate in area for the common good.

                  It is tough to learn to compete, compromise and also cooperate. But people with these qualities will be of higher value compare to someone that solely compete. And it’s tiring for people who solely compete. People who can do all 3 Cs may be the one that “change the game”. Parents are already willing to stretch their children by sending them to rigorous curriculum schools. Why not also consider spending effort cultivating the additional 2C quality.

                  School culture is important too for this aspect

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                  • MerlionInGermanyM Offline
                    MerlionInGermany
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                    …

                    In contrast, if I score AL11 and try Crescent Girls and Nau Hua High as first two choices but get ballot out of both (or miss the SAP COP via HCL grade) and then not willing to travel to Anglican (or try other AL11 SAP O level), my next choice could be several AL COPs away...
                    But wont this be the same situation before? I recall Crescent and NH cop is usually very close, like 241 and 243, thereabouts. After that it would be the 230 something schools in the same area if they are not willing to travel.

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                    • SG_KP1S Offline
                      SG_KP1
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                      MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2053123\" time=\"1640310232\" user_id=\"2964:

                      But wont this be the same situation before? I recall Crescent and NH cop is usually very close, like 241 and 243, thereabouts. After that it would be the 230 something schools in the same area if they are not willing to travel.
                      Yes, similar but maybe not exactly the same. I think in the past you could make a reasonable guess as to whether one of them would catch you. If you missed both COPs then missed both. Now, technically meet both COP but due to number of students in each band you may get neither.

                      I think everyone understood at AL6 you can try RGS/RI and if ballot out you will get whatever your second choice is. I think it was less well appreciated that at AL7 and AL8 you had (possibly only) one chance at that level and if unlucky you probably missed this whole pack.

                      Hence, if AL8 is in the range of reasonable outcomes for your child (ie even if aiming a bit higher) better spend some time understanding O Level schools and that track.

                      Edit: there are probably some scenarios where you get your second choice at ALX. I.e. AL7(D) out at NYGH could still get SNGS IP. Not sure about NJC second choice. There may be some AL8 second choice at AL8 COP too.

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                      • radiant00R Offline
                        radiant00
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                        bbbay\" post_id=\"2053112\" time=\"1640301993\" user_id=\"175278:

                        My opinion is, what is needed in real life, are people that can compete, compromise and cooperate.

                        As a parent I hope my children can compete, and also compromise among themselves, and cooperate with their siblings and classmate.

                        As a boss I hope the team can compete professionally, compromise and cooperate among themselves too to get work done.

                        As a citizen of our current world, I hope the
                        leaders not only compete , but also compromise and cooperate in area for the common good.

                        It is tough to learn to compete, compromise and also cooperate. But people with these qualities will be of higher value compare to someone that solely compete. And it’s tiring for people who solely compete. People who can do all 3 Cs may be the one that “change the game”. Parents are already willing to stretch their children by sending them to rigorous curriculum schools. Why not also consider spending effort cultivating the additional 2C quality.

                        School culture is important too for this aspect
                        Absolutely understand where you come from. What I wanted to say, if I did not make it clear, is that no school will be ideal - some schools are hosting a more competitive environment and some schools are nurturing students to be cooperative and we as parents, need to weigh in and help the kids to make a choice: which one do we prefer more?

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