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    Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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    • sharonkhooS Offline
      sharonkhoo
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      MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2059192\" time=\"1645262423\" user_id=\"43981:

      When we are under same roof with C+ person, so long as we are Art-, we are free to go out.. to me lots of freedom le.
      Unfortunately, there are still people/organisations who prefer to \"play safe\" and tell you not to come, or forbid you from talking part in certain events/activities if you've had contact with a positive case. Some of these organisations seem to have drafted their guidelines 2 yrs ago and never changed them - they even say that if you have come into contact with someone with a HRW within the past 14 days, you should not show up! Of course, they are free to draw up the rules in whatever way they choose, but I feel they do it out of fear because they are constantly reminded that Covid is around, and they still regard it as some dreaded disease to be avoided at all costs. This was the case 2 yrs ago, but not now. So the faster the general rules are relaxed, the faster the unfounded fears will decrease.

      And with 4 adults in the family, if we start getting HRNs back to back, or overlapping HRNs...

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        sushi88
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        slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2059218\" time=\"1645265676\" user_id=\"28674:


        But the main nuisance is the isolation and HRW rules - you never know when it will strike, sometimes you have no idea where you were infected or why you have been served a HRW! You may feel perfectly well but your plans have been disrupted. And some places are so strict that as long as a family member of yours has been served a HRW, they prefer you not to show up, which messes up all your plans. With 4 adults in the home, plans are constantly having to be changed, and the cost of all those ARTs is really quite a lot.

        I've had it with being flexible and being ready to change plans at the drop of a hat!
        Actually these HRNs now are no longer a nuisance for close contacts. As long as I am tested negative before I go out for the day, I am ok to go out . So the rules have relaxed a lot. I do not feel the restriction but I restrict myself to the activities that are only really really essential and try to do activities where I do not come into contact with too many people. Also, my ART kits are free.

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        • MrsKiasuM Offline
          MrsKiasu
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          slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2059223\" time=\"1645266094\" user_id=\"28674:

          Unfortunately, there are still people/organisations who prefer to \"play safe\" and tell you not to come, or forbid you from talking part in certain events/activities if you've had contact with a positive case. Some of these organisations seem to have drafted their guidelines 2 yrs ago and never changed them - they even say that if you have come into contact with someone with a HRW within the past 14 days, you should not show up! Of course, they are free to draw up the rules in whatever way they choose, but I feel they do it out of fear because they are constantly reminded that Covid is around, and they still regard it as some dreaded disease to be avoided at all costs. This was the case 2 yrs ago, but not now. So the faster the general rules are relaxed, the faster the unfounded fears will decrease.
          Now that you mentioned this, yes, some places that I go to have this kind of \"survey\". Because my answer always a NO.. if YES dunno what will happen tho,

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          • MrsKiasuM Offline
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            slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2059223\" time=\"1645266094\" user_id=\"28674:

            Unfortunately, there are still people/organisations who prefer to \"play safe\" and tell you not to come, or forbid you from talking part in certain events/activities if you've had contact with a positive case. Some of these organisations seem to have drafted their guidelines 2 yrs ago and never changed them - they even say that if you have come into contact with someone with a HRW within the past 14 days, you should not show up! Of course, they are free to draw up the rules in whatever way they choose, but I feel they do it out of fear because they are constantly reminded that Covid is around, and they still regard it as some dreaded disease to be avoided at all costs. This was the case 2 yrs ago, but not now. So the faster the general rules are relaxed, the faster the unfounded fears will decrease.

            And with 4 adults in the family, if we start getting HRNs back to back, or overlapping HRNs...
            :yikes: where do you all usually go to get the HRNs?

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            • sharonkhooS Offline
              sharonkhoo
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              MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2059226\" time=\"1645267168\" user_id=\"43981:

              :yikes: where do you all usually go to get the HRNs?
              If a colleague gets an official test done, and lists you as a close contact in the office; if you go out with friends, and someone lists you as a close contact; if you are at some other place for an extended period (unexplained, and don't even know who tested positive - this happened to one daughter); if you are in church and someone in your group/activity lists you as a close contact... and multiply this by 4 adults.

              And yes, while the govt rules change, not all organisations change as quickly. And it's no point arguing at the front desk, they just say they can't change the rules. And some colleagues and other friends are just uncomfortable because they still hark back to the rules a year ago. It makes no difference if the rules for isolation changed from 14 to 10 to 7 days because as long as they think \"quarantine\" they assumes it's 14 days. And some don't trust ARTs, so they just prefer you to stay away, whether or not you've tested negative. They may not tell you not to come, but you can tell they are uncomfortable in your presence and think you are very selfish to \"endanger\" others.

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              • Liew Nga WingL Offline
                Liew Nga Wing
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                MyPillow\" post_id=\"2059184\" time=\"1645261463\" user_id=\"70594:


                Brought my girl for booster today , though we made appmt but the q is really fast , all done in 1/2 hrs - and I notice even walk in is the same q n waiting time .
                Congratulations as your girl is well protected against Covid 19 now.

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                  sushi88
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                  Something to know about reinfections of Covid19.


                  Commentary: Just how concerned should we be about COVID-19 reinfections?
                  https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/covid-19-reinfection-severe-mild-vaccine-omicron-2501776

                  Extract:
                  It’s reasonable therefore to assume that, in general, reinfections should be less severe than primary infections, as the person being reinfected will have some pre-existing immunity from their primary infection. Plus, many people will have been vaccinated between their infections, which will have further raised their levels of immunity.

                  And even though immunity against being infected and developing COVID-19 symptoms wanes, protection against severe disease and death appears much more durable. So, at the extreme end of things, reinfections definitely seem to be less severe.

                  However, whether your second infection ends up not feeling as bad as your first may depend on when you get infected. ONS data shows the proportion of people reporting symptoms with their reinfection varies depending on what variant they were likely infected with the second time round.

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                    sushi88
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                    This is really annoying....and what is the basis? This guy is a businessman....OMG!


                    Bill Gates says Covid risks have ‘dramatically reduced’ but another pandemic is coming

                    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/18/bill-gates-covid-risks-have-reduced-but-another-pandemic-will-come.html

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                    • Z Offline
                      zeit.033699
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                      Understand HK is running short of ART kits and only 6 brands are authorised for use in HK SAR. Abbott Panbio (the blue box one) is one of the 6.


                      Hope no SCs or PRs will buy up all our Panbio stocks and courier/handcarry/mail to their HK friends/relatives like how the PRCs wiped out our masks 2 years ago.

                      https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3167709/coronavirus-self-test-kits-are-flying-shelves?utm_content=article&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1A26jYehX4mt2V4vwL_FtrRRfGlZko7OdwpAzdZSj12iaqKsi7urXgPIc#Echobox=1645412387

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                        zeit.033699
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                        sushi88\" post_id=\"2059216\" time=\"1645265523\" user_id=\"100857:

                        However, I saw some shopping malls like Novena Velocity, some NTUC stores and the BreadTalk HQ Mall has the gantry installed for people to scan in and out with token or tracetogether app. If vaccination status is not cleared, the gantry won't open. If we are going for a longer haul, this gantry may become the norm for most buildings? :scratchhead:
                        I also saw gantries at Orchard Central mall.
                        These gantries are an utter waste of money. Already 90+% of our population have been double-vaccinated. The vaccine pass was useful last year when the MTF wanted to psychologically pressure more elderly and young to be vaccinated by creating those 'bubbles'. But why do we still need those gantries and vaccine pass this year?

                        Bear in mind some HRNs with C+ persons at home are allowed to enter the malls to dine-in if they test -ve daily. The gantries and vaccine pass can no longer prevent the virus from infecting the malls. Moreover, some QTCs are dental clinics located inside shopping malls and if those sick ones who wish to get a supervised self-ART and have their records input into the HH system, they have to pass through those gantries, no?

                        Don't know why we need them. To ban those Healing Divide refuseniks or the non-boosted shoppers? Gantry or QR code, these don't stop us from having close to >10k cases.

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