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    MOE says 15 marks of the Mathematics PSLE paper are challenging. So average students can only hope to score 85% max?

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    • phtthpP Offline
      phtthp
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      zac's mum\" post_id=\"2075529\" time=\"1658384962\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2075529 time=1658384962 user_id=53606]
      It is a general English word used by parents to mean the questions which sieve out the AL1 students from the rest.

      Also used by educators, eg. quoted in this article https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/moe-caps-challenging-questions-psle-15-keep-difficulty-level-consistent-some-parents-call-lower-cap-1945681

      “Dr Jason Tan, an associate professor in policy, curriculum and leadership at the National Institute of Education, said that the Singapore Examination Assessment Board applies rigorous processes when designing exams. This is done not through the questions themselves, but also in mixing the difficulty levels of these questions.

      \"This is because a key function of exams such as the PSLE is to differentiate among various candidates. You need to have a combination of exam questions of varying difficulty that enable the examiners to make this sort of differentiation among candidates,\" he explained.
      (End quote)[/quote]
      I see. Thank you, for clarification.

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      • lee_ylL Offline
        lee_yl
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        zac's mum\" post_id=\"2075441\" time=\"1658358676\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2075441 time=1658358676 user_id=53606]
        Discuss for fun:
        - how many parents can solve this?
        - how many of your P6s kids can solve this?
        - how many of your kids could have solved this in P3 (ie. when the official textbook teaches the 5 times table & 6 times table)?

        Qn: There are 24 boys in a class. The boys are sitting in 6 rows of 5. How is it possible? Draw a diagram.[/quote]
        Will PSLE come out this type of questions? Under exam conditions, I probably can’t solve within 5 mins.

        After I read the posted solutions, I now know the trick to solve such questions. Thus, I can understand why some parents choose to send kids to MO/Heuristic classes.

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        • zac's mumZ Offline
          zac's mum
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          lee_yl\" post_id=\"2075542\" time=\"1658389925\" user_id=\"17023:

          Will PSLE come out this type of questions? Under exam conditions, I probably can’t solve within 5 mins.

          After I read the posted solutions, I now know the trick to solve such questions. Thus, I can understand why some parents choose to send kids to MO/Heuristic classes.
          I do not know. It’s probably too “simple” for PSLE.

          I could solve it in few minutes without prior exposure. DH could not. DS could not either. But now they both know how. DS could eventually understand the Hexagon but not skii’s “intersecting” theorem.

          Exposure is fine but there is no end to it if u want to keep chasing such qns, which may not come out in the end.

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          • Zeal mummyZ Offline
            Zeal mummy
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            Mr.Clumsy\" post_id=\"2075262\" time=\"1658278946\" user_id=\"135989:

            That's what I told my little Clumsy one to do.

            Sometimes it's so frustrating! He can get the workings correct and that make a blunder on the last line which gives him the wrong answer. But, the workings should help.
            Yes, we all have to learn. Not easy for kids.

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            • sharonkhooS Offline
              sharonkhoo
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              zac's mum\" post_id=\"2075548\" time=\"1658392751\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2075548 time=1658392751 user_id=53606]
              I do not know. It’s probably too “simple” for PSLE.

              I could solve it in few minutes without prior exposure. DH could not. DS could not either. But now they both know how. DS could eventually understand the Hexagon but not skii’s “intersecting” theorem.

              Exposure is fine but there is no end to it if u want to keep chasing such qns, which may not come out in the end.[/quote]
              A lot of this is whether you \"see\" it, or have the mental nimbleness to figure things out quickly under exam conditions. Practice can help, but only to the same or similar questions. For questions that are less similar, it depends on whether the person's mind has the ability to extrapolate that way of thinking and \"seeing\" to different applications, and this varies widely and is largely inborn. And I'm sure MOE exam setters will try to keep developing \"less similar\" questions, because they know tthat many kids will be asked to practise every question that has appeared in the past.

              Again, I would say that how much prep and exposure you want to give the student depends on his ability. If the student is coping well with the 85% less-challenging questions, then by all means expose him to more difficult questions to stretch him. But one who is still struggling with the 85% would do better to focus on those - some exposure to challenging questions is fine, but it could be discouraging and the time and energy could be better used.

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              • M Offline
                Mr.025413Clumsy
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                zac's mum\" post_id=\"2075548\" time=\"1658392751\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2075548 time=1658392751 user_id=53606]
                I do not know. It’s probably too “simple” for PSLE.

                I could solve it in few minutes without prior exposure. DH could not. DS could not either. But now they both know how. DS could eventually understand the Hexagon but not skii’s “intersecting” theorem.

                Exposure is fine but there is no end to it if u want to keep chasing such qns, which may not come out in the end.[/quote]
                Mr.Clumsy couldn't either so Mr.Clumsy is glad that Mr.Clumsy isn't taking the PSLE.

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                • Imp75I Offline
                  Imp75
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                  I also dunno how to solve zacmummy question hahaha…old liao don’t wanna use my brain too much…

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                  • eurostarE Offline
                    eurostar
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                    naturally lah ...15 marks gone + few careless (hopefully not) still got AL3-4 mah


                    with DSA still manageable to squeeze through for most here 😄

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                    • C Offline
                      cpcm9
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                      tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2074597\" time=\"1657869767\" user_id=\"194652:

                      Please share TIA 🤗 !

                      I wish to boost my kid's problem solving ability and confidence for those 4-mark and 5-mark type of difficult PSLE maths questions.

                      I have already bought the https://www.ammielwan.com.sg/publications-1 from Ammiel wan math academy. The solutions are clear and give step by step instructions. My kid enjoys the challenge and requested for more similar practice.

                      https://singaporemotherhood.com/forum/attachments/1467959554830-jpg.646383/\">

                      I am also trying to buy the http://www.nicklebeetutors.com/p/math-resources.html p5 & p6 notes. The picture is from @mummyof3angels who has already sold her copy. Can't find on Carousell too. I called Nicklebee tutors but they don't sell to non-students. If anyone has a copy for sale please let me know.

                      https://i.imgur.com/nzIgKh6.jpg\">
                      Where to buy this \"NickleBee Math Worksheet Set\"?
                      Tks!

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                      • eurostarE Offline
                        eurostar
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                        think too late to buy now imo


                        this few days prepare for oral

                        than just practice what is remaining paper bah

                        this year full syllabus tested

                        hope setter dun come out funny funny questions haha

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