Compare RGS vs NYGH
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usaik881\" post_id=\"2083533\" time=\"1664166003\" user_id=\"199461:
RGS has a much wider mix of students from different races and cultural backgrounds, while NYGH is predominantly a Chinese SAP school which is affiliated with NYPS. This means around 24% of the top student pool in Singapore will not consider NYGH or HCI. The cultural mix at RGS or RI may contribute to student social behaviour and interaction. e,g current RGS principal is a Malay and she is an ex-student at RGS.
RGSS DSA offer and NYGH DSA offer. Which offer will one accept? On the surface, the question begs a popularity answer, that is, which school has a wider appeal. Under the surface, two notions exist. One notion is about how one school is presumed to be better than the other. The other notion is a nefarious attempt to lift up one or to thumb down the other.
Leaving aside the nefarious notion, what do we mean by better? Let us remember that accepting either offer is first and foremost about accepting a secondary school for girls with one being by policy design SAP and the other being by accident of tradition cosmopolitan. Moreover, accepting either offer is also about accepting where to write the A Levels, at HCI or at RI.
By better, whether it is about the NYGH v. RGSS comparison, or the HCI v. RI comparison, if we are honest, we realize it is a quarrelsome comparison, the same as asking if Cambridge or Oxford is better, or if Harvard or Stanford is better, or if Audi or BMW is better. If by better we mean performance at the A Levels or the bagging of a prestigious scholarship award by our DS within the NYGH/HCI system or the RGSS/RI system, the answer, then, depends on who is answering.
Take the proxy number measuring how many students achieved a UAS of 90 at the A Levels. Is the NYGH/HCI system or the RGSS/RI system better in enabling our DS to achieve a UAS of 90? This is a specifically individual question since a UAS of 90 is highly dependent on individual ability. The track record of NYGH/HCI or RGSS/RI in producing a UAS of 90, let us remember, is a statistic about other people. There are failures in NYGH/HCI and RGSS/RI but such are more often a case of individual situation than a failure of the institutions and schools.
If by better we mean wider appeal, in our opinion, NYGH, being a SAP school, has lesser general appeal than RGSS. Why do we say so? How do we know? -
J.Loke\" post_id=\"2083604\" time=\"1664231644\" user_id=\"194941:
Probably u are wrong, there are Malays and Indians in NYGH, although not as much as in RGS.
RGS has a much wider mix of students from different races and cultural backgrounds, while NYGH is predominantly a Chinese SAP school which is affiliated with NYPS. This means around 24% of the top student pool in Singapore will not consider NYGH or HCI. The cultural mix at RGS or RI may contribute to student social behaviour and interaction. e,g current RGS principal is a Malay and she is an ex-student at RGS. -
CCK2008\" post_id=\"2083925\" time=\"1664419036\" user_id=\"26004:
NYGH only offers HCL, whereas RGS offers HCL, HML HTL.
Probably u are wrong, there are Malays and Indians in NYGH, although not as much as in RGS.
How many Malays and Indians are there at NYGH per cohort? -
J.Loke\" post_id=\"2083966\" time=\"1664431443\" user_id=\"194941:
Not sure, but my DD did see Malays and Indians in NYGH uniforms, and also a Ang Mo in class 202 (1 of the GEP class).
NYGH only offers HCL, whereas RGS offers HCL, HML HTL.
How many Malays and Indians are there at NYGH per cohort? -
CCK2008\" post_id=\"2083969\" time=\"1664432139\" user_id=\"26004:
For Malays and Indians to take HCL, they will have to start from Primary school. So far I have not seen or heard of any Malays or Indian students giving up their own mother tongue language to pursue CL or HCL. Even if it does, it should be a very rare case.
Not sure, but my DD did see Malays and Indians in NYGH uniforms, and also a Ang Mo in class 202 (1 of the GEP class).
For Caucasians, it will be much easier because their mother tongue is likely to be English since the local schools don't offer french Spanish etc. I know Jim Roger's daughter from NYPS is one of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bSXOHAC7K0
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1. Is RGS more competitive than NYHS?
2. Are RGS students better than NYHS? Or better than all the rest of other IP girls schools? -
kaisuism\" post_id=\"2084949\" time=\"1665030748\" user_id=\"199574:
To answer your 2 questions :-
1. Is RGS more competitive than NYHS?
2. Are RGS students better than NYHS? Or better than all the rest of other IP girls schools?
Both are just as equally competitive.
Those affliated girls from NYPS who scored 250 and above inside NYGH, are SO competitive !
Not to mention plus all those who entered (RGS + NYGH), from all other external primary schools outside, at Tscore 265
Why ?
Because
Trained from young to be very competitive, since ( P1 to P6 ), for 6 long years, inside NYPS !
The same, apply to RGPS girls studying inside RGS, whether they are from P4 to P6 (Mainstream or GEP).
What's the difference, then, if both are equally so competitive ?
The only difference(s) are,
1)
RGS has more GEP girls, than NYGH.
2)
only HCL (Higher Mother tongue) is offered in NYGH.
Meaning that, if your HMT is Not HCL, then cannot choose NYGH.
3) the SAP school culture itself, inside NYGH.
4) the racial mix
Not many Non-Chinese girls study inside NYGH, for four years from Year 1 to Year 4.
Why ?
because
If you are a Malay or Tamil student, MOE will request that you (student), by virtue of your very own race,
Please take your own Mother Tongue (Malay, Tamil).
You won't be allowed to take HCL. Only under very rare, exceptional cases once in a blue moon like that rich investment guru's daughter, \"Happy \" can go through.
BTW,
how many \" Non Chinese\" students do you see, walking around inside the NYGH campus, from IP ( Year 1 to Year 4)
Vs.
Compared to that,
inside RGS Secondary campus (from IP Year 1 to Year 4) ? -
It’s very hard to say one is better than the other. If really want to be factual, we can say that the RGS girls (ex-dsa) are admitted based on cop better than nygh (don’t forget nyps girls forming about 80 girls in each cohort can get in as long as they score above 250 or AL8).
My girls are in nygh because:
- Came from SAP background so from young, were incalculated more Chinese values which are in line with nygh
- visited both open houses physically over several years. Due to personality, they prefer the more subdued personality of nygh girls.
- I was quite impressed with the old nygh principal
- I wanted their Chinese to be better studying in a SAP school bc they do not already speak the language at home and the ability to speak in Chinese and having PRC-SG converted classmates may help in the process too -
I always felt that if we talk about the Raffles brand it is more associated with RI than RGS. RGS is just "tagging" along the brand name. NYGH is clearer in their direction in terms of the type of school they want to project to the public.
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kaisuism\" post_id=\"2084976\" time=\"1665034477\" user_id=\"199574:
You can say the same for NYGH tagging on Hwa Chong Institution as well because NYGH girls will join HCI for Yr 5 and 6.
I always felt that if we talk about the Raffles brand it is more associated with RI than RGS. RGS is just \"tagging\" along the brand name. NYGH is clearer in their direction in terms of the type of school they want to project to the public.
While RGS will finish their Yr 5 and 6 in RI (used to be called RJC).
Perhaps it is a male-dominant thing.
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