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    Crisis Around the World -War/Health/Weather/Economy/Society

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    • EstéemaE Offline
      Estéema
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      Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2084024\" time=\"1664448775\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2084024 time=1664448775 user_id=195250]
      Since many years ago, I start not to believe those stories in the 所谓 \"Western Media\" because they are not neutral anymore. Anyway, I am not going to argue who is right ot wrong here. To me, I feel the pain for those Russians in Eastern Ukraine and hope that President Putin can protect them.[/quote]
      For me, I believe evidences rather than stories or any one particular media. Cross-check use my analytical skills to decide for myself right fr wrong & who is the protagonist or who took evil action. If evidence shows a country’s sovereignty has been attacked & ppl incl children die & if one lie to their own ppl they’re not doing a war but military operations then the evidence doesn’t match what the great liar presented to his ppl & the world.

      Putin will not protect his ppl but the wealth he robbed fr his country & desire to continue his power & his lie to his ppl. He is conversely sending innocent men to an unjust war. I can feel sorry for the Russians w/o power, but make no mistake the Perpetrator himself shld not be given an iota of sympathy for he doesn’t hv even an once of conscience. He doesn’t care if the total of his actions will cause world inflation, nor does he care for escalating prices that the 3rd world will not afford & go hungry. He only care he cannot loose face & he’s the devil that will not admit his evil not just to Ukrainian but to humanity.

      The rest of media are just noise trying to keep their journalistic jobs.

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      • Liew Nga WingL Offline
        Liew Nga Wing
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        Estéema\" post_id=\"2084028\" time=\"1664450494\" user_id=\"66413:

        For me, I believe evidences rather than stories or any one particular media. Cross-check use my analytical skills to decide for myself right fr wrong & who is the protagonist or who took evil action. If evidence shows a country’s sovereignty has been attacked & ppl incl children die & if one lie to their own ppl they’re not doing a war but military operations then the evidence doesn’t match what the great liar presented to his ppl & the world.

        Putin will not protect his ppl but the wealth he robbed fr his country & desire to continue his power & his lie to his ppl. He is conversely sending innocent men to an unjust war. I can feel sorry for the Russians w/o power, but make no mistake the Perpetrator himself shld not be given an iota of sympathy for he doesn’t hv even an once of conscience. He doesn’t care if the total of his actions will cause world inflation, nor does he care for escalating prices that the 3rd world will not afford & go hungry. He only care he cannot loose face & he’s the devil that will not admit his evil not just to Ukrainian but to humanity.

        The rest of media are just noise trying to keep their journalistic jobs.
        My friend, hope you have a joyful gardening today and please try to rest early 😴. Goodnight.

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        • phtthpP Offline
          phtthp
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          World War III


          may be very near


          https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/russia-to-formally-annex-4-ukraine-occupied-regions-on-friday-kremlin


          https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wireStory/kremlin-regions-ukraine-folded-russia-friday-90683980

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          • EstéemaE Offline
            Estéema
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            Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2084036\" time=\"1664455002\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2084036 time=1664455002 user_id=195250]
            My friend, hope you have a joyful gardening today and please try to rest early 😴. Goodnight.[/quote]
            Play yr boardgames by all means, but do rest early too as I’ve to get up early for work & to pay more attention to the real risks to our lives & lives ard the world. Hv a good finish for this weekend.

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            • phtthpP Offline
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              World War 3



              Moscow warns NATO


              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4LRQslv0ceA


              https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna19967

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              • floppyF Offline
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                zeit.\" post_id=\"2084015\" time=\"1664445811\" user_id=\"194295:

                ...
                Aleksey, 40, a construction worker, plans to stay in Mongolia until the situation in Russia improves, and said he would do whatever it takes to avoid the war.
                ...
                He should see a doctor and get certified for bone spurs in his heel.
                Who knows, he could be President of Russia one day.

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                • floppyF Offline
                  floppy
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                  Estéema\" post_id=\"2084028\" time=\"1664450494\" user_id=\"66413:

                  ...
                  He is conversely sending innocent men to an unjust war.
                  ...
                  I haven't across a war in the entire history of the human race that's just (or arguably, unjust).

                  The concept of just causes was developed by St Augustine in the 4th century (bellum iustum). He believed that the only just reason to go to war was the desire for peace. In his view, just causes are:
                  - Defending against attack
                  - Recapturing things taken
                  - Punishing people who have done wrong
                  Philosophically, it is built on \"for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.\" In practice, the idea of just cause is open for interpretation (as many nations have done in justifying their past actions e.g. in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Syria, in Lebanon).

                  Adopting the above concepts to the situation in Ukraine, Putin would have been justified in:
                  - Defending against attack
                  NATO was a military alliance founded in 1949 against the Warsaw Pact. The Warsaw Pact, if the term seems unfamiliar, was dissolved since 1991. Yet, NATO (worth repeating, a military alliance) had been expanding further and further east to take in former Soviet bloc countries. Should it surprise anyone that Russia sees NATO enlargement, especially courting Ukraine, as a threat?
                  We should feel sorry for Ukraine, for it ended up being a chess board of the West (who have largely abandoned them) and Russia.

                  - Punishing people who have done wrong
                  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUKKBN1GV2TY (way before the war), a lot had been said about the radical right-wing groups and neo-Nazi movement in Ukraine. In 2021, Russia initiated a resolution on \"combating glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to fuelling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance\". Ordinarily, it would have been a simple 'yes' vote but extraordinary, two countries literally vote against a resolution against Nazism, neo-Nazism and so on. Guess which two?

                  We can, obviously, as the media in the West has done, argue that the operations in Ukraine isn't just. Regardless of the 'justness', war is a bad thing, but to think of Putin as the only evil doer hellbent on destroying the world is naive and laughable. The collective leadership of the West should really hold up a mirror and look into it as well.

                  Notwithstanding, I do feel sorry for all the innocent citizens without power that were dragged into this conflict (and that includes us :sad: ). All of the politicians in power in the West (and that includes Putin) clearly doesn’t have an ounce of conscience. Their interest in maintaining their stranglehold on power, at the cost of everyone else, is truly astonishing.

                  Thankfully, for better or worst, we have reached the end-game now. Winter is coming. With the referendum and mobilisation of the military reserve, the rules have changed. The conflict in Ukraine is all but over.

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                  • EstéemaE Offline
                    Estéema
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                    A lot of hogwash!


                    Neither Ukrainian nor NATO attacked Russia or Putin. Consider why Putin had to lie to his own ppl when he send his soldiers on the pretext of ‘military operation’ when in effect he had started a war, which might possibly head for WWIII, if he’s crazy enuf to launch his nuclear weapon. That’s the devil for you.

                    In everyone of us, there’s a little devil in us, but to execute a full war, that’s ano thing. Nvr play with words or ye mind becircen as warp as the media.

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                    • floppyF Offline
                      floppy
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                      Estéema\" post_id=\"2084060\" time=\"1664474677\" user_id=\"66413:

                      A lot of hogwash!

                      Neither Ukrainian nor NATO attacked Russia or Putin. Consider why Putin had to lie to his own ppl when he send his soldiers on the pretext of ‘military operation’ when in effect he had started a war, which might possibly head for WWIII, if he’s crazy enuf to launch his nuclear weapon. That’s the devil for you.

                      In everyone of us, there’s a little devil in us, but to execute a full war, that’s ano thing. Nvr play with words or ye mind becircen as warp as the media.
                      A special military operation and war may mean the same thing to you, but for those who understand what those terms mean, it is not the same. Those terms were chosen carefully and meaningfully.

                      Call it a ‘hogwash’ but what is the raison d’etre of NATO?
                      Or is anyone denying the existence of the Azov regiment? Or the other countries’ military… sorry, contractors, involvement? Or the right wing, Neo-Nazi militarism?
                      Or signing into policy, ostracizing the Russian language when nearly half of the population speaks it as the first language?

                      Every coin has two sides, each side is worth just as much as the other.

                      Putin may be the perpetrator, and it is bad. The instigator(s), however, are just as bad, if not worst.

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                      • EstéemaE Offline
                        Estéema
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                        Choose what you believe. An evil man is to be shunned at all cost. You’re threatened by the police at the corner street, & u wanna throw fire bombs at them? NATO did not make any move to attack any country’s sovereignty, Putin did. At the beginning of the war, I said Putin is just greedy & covet to capture more of Ukraine to suck more power & black gold. He had alr sucked dry fr within Russia. Now he’s sucking his own bone dry, if the spirit of Ukrainians hv their day. He rocks world peace but he doesn’t rock. Shame on him, now we’ll see how he ends his power when non of his own wants to lay their lives for him. Senseless.


                        Ostracizing or not, just don’t jump into bed with the wrong partner, which Angela Mehkel did, think she regretted it now for the nation having to scramble for winter now. Choose the right partner to keep warm my frd.

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