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    JC or Poly?

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • SG_KP1S Offline
      SG_KP1
      last edited by

      I may be wrong on EL, HCL, and CL. Hopefully floppy will log on again soon.


      The following post has the JAE booklet embedded in it. Page 29 (PDF page 41) has English as first language, Chinese, and Higher Chinese all as \"O\" category. That's why I thought you can use either EL or HCL as L1 and any of the three as R4 as long as you don't use both CL and HCL.

      Practically speaking, CL should at least match HCL, so I'd guess many end up with EL = L1 and CL = R4 per Merlion's prior reply above.

      https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=15425&p=2079016#p2079016

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      • zac's mumZ Offline
        zac's mum
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        SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2082184\" time=\"1663162819\" user_id=\"188234:

        I may be wrong on EL, HCL, and CL. Hopefully floppy will log on again soon.

        The following post has the JAE booklet embedded in it. Page 29 (PDF page 41) has English as first language, Chinese, and Higher Chinese all as \"O\" category. That's why I thought you can use either EL or HCL as L1 and any of the three as R4 as long as you don't use both CL and HCL.

        Practically speaking, CL should at least match HCL, so I'd guess many end up with EL = L1 and CL = R4 per Merlion's prior reply above.

        https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=15425&p=2079016#p2079016
        I’ll insert a screenshot of the page here as an image so it’s a handy ref:

        https://i.imgur.com/hdJ93rC.png\">

        As for the assumption that if CL is good, HCL will also be good, well in my case I scored A1 for CL (taken as the only major exam in Sec 3, no sweat), but in Sec 4 I scored B4 for HCL (partly becos I had other more important subjects to focus on).

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        • SG_KP1S Offline
          SG_KP1
          last edited by

          zac's mum\" post_id=\"2082186\" time=\"1663164068\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2082186 time=1663164068 user_id=53606]
          ...
          As for the assumption that if CL is good, HCL will also be good, well in my case I scored A1 for CL (taken as the only major exam in Sec 3, no sweat), but in Sec 4 I scored B4 for HCL (partly becos I had other more important subjects to focus on).[/quote]
          Understand. What I meant was I don't think there would be a situation where:

          a) EL = L1, CL = R4

          is worse than

          b) HCL = L1, EL = R4 (if you can use EL here)

          Hence, do what you did above; once you lock up CL = A1, try to get EL as high as you can (for many reasons) and then just pass HCL.

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          • floppyF Offline
            floppy
            last edited by

            SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2082184\" time=\"1663162819\" user_id=\"188234:

            I may be wrong on EL, HCL, and CL. Hopefully floppy will log on again soon.

            The following post has the JAE booklet embedded in it. Page 29 (PDF page 41) has English as first language, Chinese, and Higher Chinese all as \"O\" category. That's why I thought you can use either EL or HCL as L1 and any of the three as R4 as long as you don't use both CL and HCL.

            Practically speaking, CL should at least match HCL, so I'd guess many end up with EL = L1 and CL = R4 per Merlion's prior reply above.
            Just copying out the necessary info from here: https://www.moe.gov.sg/post-secondary/admissions/jae/admission-criteria

            Subjects in L1R5 (L1R5 = First Language + 5 Relevant Subjects):
            L1 - English or Higher Mother Tongue Language (MTL)
            R1 - H
            R2 - M or S
            R3 - H, M or S
            R4 and R5 - Any 2 GCE O-Level subjects except Religious Knowledge

            What cannot be used in the same aggregate computation:
            - Grades for both Higher MTL (such as Higher Chinese, Higher Malay and Higher Tamil) and MTL (such as Chinese, Malay and Tamil). For example, if Higher MTL is used as the first language, MTL cannot be used as a relevant subject.
            - “Merit” and “Pass” grades for the Mother Tongue ‘B’ Syllabus (Chinese ‘B’, Malay ‘B’ and Tamil ‘B’).

            But I think everyone has already figured that out 😂

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            • Sunofwinter2011S Offline
              Sunofwinter2011
              last edited by

              A short video on the differences between these two.


              Hope this will help.

              https://youtu.be/7jn19zYmRsA

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              • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                Zeal mummy
                last edited by

                https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/polytechnic-education-journey-decisions-o-levels-jc-3412696?fbclid=IwAR2quj0EKgyvDb6H-Dqh2Ck98h1k_1bgc5QJJv2tlo-jD2MCYr-Ghhjnzfg&mibextid=l066kq


                Commentary: I gave up JC to go to poly and never looked back

                Every mid-April when polytechnic students begin the new academic year, CNA’s Grace Yeoh is reminded of the decision that altered her education path - and how going against the grain at a young age set her up for life.

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                • coolcatC Offline
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                  Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2105743\" time=\"1681691853\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2105743 time=1681691853 user_id=58173]
                  https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/polytechnic-education-journey-decisions-o-levels-jc-3412696?fbclid=IwAR2quj0EKgyvDb6H-Dqh2Ck98h1k_1bgc5QJJv2tlo-jD2MCYr-Ghhjnzfg&mibextid=l066kq

                  Commentary: I gave up JC to go to poly and never looked back

                  Every mid-April when polytechnic students begin the new academic year, CNA’s Grace Yeoh is reminded of the decision that altered her education path - and how going against the grain at a young age set her up for life.[/quote]
                  https://www.testpapersfree.com/view.php?id=97424 is a difficult choice to make. While there are pros and cons in both, it is generally a personal preference. If you are a hands-on person and skills oriented then poly is a good choice. On the other hand, if you are an academic person and would like to pursue university studies then JC is a good choice. Both if done with commitment can make you successful. I personally would choose JC though. 😄

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                  • phtthpP Offline
                    phtthp
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                    Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2105743\" time=\"1681691853\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2105743 time=1681691853 user_id=58173]
                    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/polytechnic-education-journey-decisions-o-levels-jc-3412696?fbclid=IwAR2quj0EKgyvDb6H-Dqh2Ck98h1k_1bgc5QJJv2tlo-jD2MCYr-Ghhjnzfg&mibextid=l066kq

                    Commentary: I gave up JC to go to poly and never looked back

                    Every mid-April when polytechnic students begin the new academic year, CNA’s Grace Yeoh is reminded of the decision that altered her education path - and how going against the grain at a young age set her up for life.[/quote]
                    If by the time reach aged 16,
                    after your O level,
                    if u already know what u want to be in life,
                    eg. Journalist
                    in this case, or Pilot,

                    then Yes,

                    go ... Poly

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                    • phtthpP Offline
                      phtthp
                      last edited by

                      Answer, to the title of this thread

                      ===========================

                      1)

                      for those,
                      who by the time they reach the age of 16 years old, ALREADY know for certain what kind of specific career they want for their life,

                      Example

                      If they are keen to study Artificial Intelligence (AI)

                      Or be
                      a Journalist,
                      a Commercial pilot,
                      an Airforce pilot,

                      a Child care school Teacher,
                      a nurse

                      Or

                      Open up an Optical Spectacles / glasses shop to run a business, be your own boss, or

                      be an Animal Vet,
                      then,

                      go to … Poly.
                      Don’t waste time, studying in a two-years Junior College.

                      Example
                      =======

                      If you want to be a Nurse,
                      then

                      go to . . Nanyang Polytechnic (NYP), undergo the training there, to be a nurse.

                      Important note
                      =============

                      However,
                      make sure that u do this, only if u are not afraid at the sight of blood.
                      Don’t halfway through, after enrolment into NYP for a few months, then later go and complain to the Dean of Nursing school that, u faint at the sight of blood,
                      Or u vomit, at the sight of blood,
                      Or that
                      u have a phobia of injection,
                      hence
                      wish to withdraw from the Nursing program. Then, u are wasting NYP precious time & money !

                      I mean,
                      before u even take up a pen & start to fill up the Application Form, to apply for a Nursing programme, surely u ought to know or u already know deep inside u :-
                      whether

                      u can or u cannot stand, the sight of (blood or injection) everyday working in a hospital, dealing with several patients, daily. For every patient that need to do blood test upon, as a nurse, u have to find the right vein on the patient’s arm or buttock, to poke the injection needle into, to draw blood & bring the blood sample to the laboratory, for further testing. So, definitely patients’ blood is something that u come into contact often, daily !


                      2)

                      But,
                      if by the time u reach the end of Sec 4 (aged 16), & still don’t know what to do with your life,
                      then

                      go to … Junior College.

                      Remain inside a JC for 2 more years.
                      Meanwhile, during this last chance of being given two extra years of extended (prolonged) time, wondering what to do with your life -

                      do find the time
                      to talk to working adults,
                      from different industry sectors.
                      Yes, correct,
                      talk to as many people as u possibly can, from various walks of life / profession,
                      so as to
                      check out & confirm for yourself where exactly your talents, interests & passion truly lie in,
                      before
                      choose & final enrolment into the right / correct faculty course to study, in a university. Don’t end up, study the WRONG course for next 3 or 4 years, wasting time

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                      • bbbayB Offline
                        bbbay
                        last edited by

                        I have people around me that went from ITE to diploma or degree from local U. There are many unemployed U graduates around the world. In spore, ITE graduates are all having decent jobs and living standards.

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