Anglo-Chinese School (Primary)

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Hendon\" post_id=\"2097630\" time=\"1676429385\" user_id=\"142376:

https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/forum/forum-keep-acs-primary-an-all-boys-school

Forum: Keep ACS (Primary) an all-boys school

One overriding mission of a Christian school such as Anglo-Chinese School (ACS) is to serve
communities. Hence, the move to Tengah appears to be the right and proper thing to do (ACS
(Primary) to move to Tengah, take in girls from 2030, Feb 10).
I am, however, against the decision to make this new school co-ed.
Many outstanding leaders of this country – both male and female – were schooled in singlegender schools. Many parents also prefer to have their children attend single-gender schools,
especially in primary school.
The decision should need to be backed by research on the superiority of co-ed schools over
single-gender schools in terms of pedagogical and educational outcomes.
Such information should also be made known to the public so that parents and communities can
make informed decisions on selecting the most appropriate schools for their young children.
ACS has a proud tradition and great record of running schools for boys at the primary and
secondary levels.
Its long and illustrious history and traditions are treasured by its alumni.
News of the change has been an emotive issue for many of them.
I ask that ACS be allowed to preserve its all-boys status.
Ng Hsueh Mei

This is a good post, by author
Ng Hsueh Mei :goodpost:


Once ACSP take in girls,
future history will be different.
Actually, I also cannot fathom \"ACS\" being a co-ed school. Is major shock !

For the Girls' side,
MGS has always been linked to, associated with ACS. Now, got another new group of girls coming in.


Those mothers (parents),
with MGS daughters may ask yourself :-

Now that got another new group of ACS girls coming in, where does my MGS daughter stand ? Will it be something similar concept, like

(St Nick girls, together with SCGS girls), \"sharing\" with Catholic High boys ?

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Veyron\" post_id=\"2097638\" time=\"1676432881\" user_id=\"30663:

Moving out of Barker is not going to level the playing field. It just makes it less convenient for some parents, less reason to brag about ACS Tengah, and allows privileged children to familiarize themselves with HDB estate.

In terms of enrollment, there will not be much of a difference because ACS alumni will still get to secure a place for ahead of others in P2C. What may change of course is that under 2C, we will see more applicants from 1km HDB neighborhood. But it will not be many because 1) Well to do family will buy or rent. 2) There will likely be only 40 places left for P2C balloting even with an enlarged cohort because Alumni daughters will secure a place ahead of 2C

Is going to be a blow,
to some ACSP Phase 2 alumni

because

If ACSP never shift, remain inside city -
Those alumni, staying more than 2 km away, can still continue to enjoy Phase 2 privilege, continue to enrol their K2 son.


But after shift to Tengah -
different story !
Phase 2 alumni fathers,
forsee that
wiser to shift to less than 2 km from ACSP (Tengah), because balloting likely to take place within 2 km, for SC boys, in the initial beginning first year maiden flight take off in 2029 P1 June registration, for 2030 P1 intake.

However, slowly, gradually, as time passes by, into another few more decade from 2030,
slowly one day, under Phase 2, balloting for ACSP (Tengah) will behave like another St Nick (Phase 2) one day, SC will also ballot less than 1 km away.

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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2097645\" time=\"1676436258\" user_id=\"17023:

From my understanding, it seems like ACS parents generally have no objection to open another school called ACS Tengah and this ACS Tengah can go co-ed.

Some parents apparently cried foul as to why they are the ones who need to move out of current compound for ACSJ to move in to take over. Implication is that their sons and grandsons of ACSP alumni will have to stay in Tengah because if they don’t stay within 2km of the school, they may not get in as phase 2A is getting more and more competitive.

Hmm… if I am ACSP alumnus , I would think this way ( from my understand of the situation):


- Now my daughter can study ACSP. ACSJ’s alumni’s girls still can’t.
- I can stay somewhere closer to my child Tengah primary school and away from the busy, more expensive city centre
- my sacrifice has in some way help to make education more inclusive
- how big can spore be. Have my chauffeur start driving my child to Tengah 20min earlier

I should have more peace too

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bbbay\" post_id=\"2097656\" time=\"1676438995\" user_id=\"175278:

Hmm… if I am ACSP alumnus , I would think this way ( from my understand of the situation):


- Now my daughter can study ACSP. ACSJ’s alumni’s girls still can’t.
- I can stay somewhere closer to my child Tengah primary school and away from the busy, more expensive city centre
- my sacrifice has in some way help to make education more inclusive
- how big can spore be. Have my chauffeur start driving my child to Tengah 20min earlier

I should have more peace too

That is provided,
you are assuming that
these Phase 2 alumni parents have
deep pocket $ , willing to buy or invest in a second property in Tengah

Because

If these affected / impacted Phase 2 alumni parents not willing to buy a second property, for whatever reasons, difficult lor

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sembgal\" post_id=\"2097622\" time=\"1676426085\" user_id=\"5559:

Hi
Are you referring to the current BOG or previous BOG ?

There could be more affluent families with connections in ACSJ than ACSP.

Eg: We have a minister’s youngest son who was previously from ACSJ too. He should be 17 years old this year. The eldest grandson should be 7-8 years old this year in XXXX. 🤐

Current BOG. So is there a conflict of interest to suggest ACSJ move in to Barker Road compound while ACSP moves to Tengah?

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Momof2childs\" post_id=\"2097650\" time=\"1676437780\" user_id=\"106468:

Maybe in 2036, they will move ACSI there as well and make it co-ed. Who knows…Whatever it is, I still don’t get the point of moving the GEP school. GEP pupils can come from any nick and corner. No point having the school so remote and discomforting majority. Also, I believe ACSP BR will still take GE pupils between 2030-2032 apart from just siblings of current pupils. ACSP T can only offer GEP from 2033 onwards, right. Then from 2033, those GE P5/P6 pupils will move to ACSJ as well?! So confusing and complicated and so sad for those last few batches - won’t be able to enjoy the full school..

FYI (correction)

ACSP, ACSJ
are NOT \"full\" schools.

Then, which are the \"full\" schools, in SG ?

Total,
there are maximum 5 \"full\" schools throughout SG. And they are

(Catholic High + St Nick + SCGS + MGS + Maris Stella) primary.

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Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2097620\" time=\"1676424096\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2097620 time=1676424096 user_id=195250]
No..no... no such thing as \"ACS own Spore\", at least I don't find any special privileges enjoyed by my colleagues who came from ACS. Singapore is belong to all Singaporeans and not owned by people from any school.[/quote]

maybe don't use the word \"own\". But inside the PAP party,
definitely there are influential ACS old boys

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Hendon\" post_id=\"2097640\" time=\"1676433601\" user_id=\"142376:

In light of the short view of history that some may have in these discussions sparked by the recent Tengah announcement, it was always just ACS from the very beginning (1886). The distinction made between ACSP and ACSJ and who is more entitled to Barker road really is about the view of history from their standpoint in time, and also in large part to public perception and their recent memory which school was \"always\" at Barker Road. Official History from ACS indicates ACS (Primary) only began at Barker Road from 1994. So ACSJ is just returning to Barker Road after leaving it - yes it was located there as far back as 1951 once! The current generations of alumni just wants their kids to go back to where they studied (physical location). The ever increasing competition for P1 places and changing constraints placed by MOE on alumni just means people will use whatever arguments in their favour. Did you know that Phase 2 priority used to be given to parents who were sterilised before age 40! Phase 2 is really tough. Anyway, I think some big picture thinking is in short order here.

Who to shift to Tengah -
Is it ACSP or ACSJ,

this is an internal conflict,
that OBA (ACSP + ACSJ) need to resolve internally, amongst themselves.

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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2097621\" time=\"1676424721\" user_id=\"17023:

Sudden as in to receive the news that ACSP will go co-ed and relocate to Tengah just 5mins before the press release. Many parents, students and teachers were shocked and left confused.

It’s like my hub told me a decade ago we might upgrade our house in the future then in 2023, suddenly informed me that our house has been sold and it’s done deal!! I think I will be extremely shocked too

I would be shocked too, taken aback, if i am an ACSP OBA affected parent, if i have to shift to Tengah.

And if not keen to shift, say, i am working in city area, then I will enrol my K2 son in some other primary school, instead.

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phtthp\" post_id=\"2097663\" time=\"1676440003\" user_id=\"35251:

maybe don't use the word \"own\". But inside the PAP party,
definitely there are influential ACS old boys

If there are influential ACS old boys in our ruling party, that means they also support the shifting of ACSP to Tengah area. Am I right to say so?