Networking Group - JCs General
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2099545\" time=\"1677730041\" user_id=\"17023:
You are absolutely right, lee_yl.
I dont think we need to worry for those aiming for Law/Med/Dentistry. If need be, I am sure these kids can swallow sword or spit fire in order to stand out from the rest.
So we can assume that there will be many RP70s applying for other courses like Bis Ad, Accountary etc.? The Indicative Grade Profile (IPG) will then become AAA for half the local Uni courses? So what’s next? Conduct balloting for sought after courses that do not conduct interviews?
Minister Chan has to look into creating more vacancies for popular courses I guess, if not, we will still be back to square one.
After all UAS is for universities admission and we do not wish to introduce other selection criteria for university admission. Otherwise, remove stress from doing away with one content heavy subject but add stress by not having sufficient places in local universities
More candidates now can acquire perfect score, at A level. Leading to much more fiercer intense competition fight, into the more highly popular in demand faculty courses in the uni.
Forsee that
just from these two JCs alone (RI + Hwa Chong) JC(2) A-level graduates, easily
at least half the cohort size will be targeting for highly popular faculties (department of study specialization),
not to mention
also got other applicants (candidates) coming in from rest of the remaining (IP + Non-IP) JCs,
Plus
also got several applicants with very good performance from NUS High
Plus
also so many other applicants from the IB route (SJI + ACSI + other International colleges) :
so many of them score above 40 readily (easily), &
also targeting for the same, highly popular faculties. Hence, expect great hot intense competition !
Is going to be a repeat of those very highly competitive batch of piggies who took 2019 (PSLE + DSA),
sat for the challenging PSLE Maths questions tested on \"Jamie & the egg tart, plus find the diameter of the semi-circle set\",
https://mothership.sg/2019/10/psle-maths-difficult-questions-backlash/
except that
they are going to be aged 19 in year 2026, no more aged 12.
For IP students born in 2007,
PSLE taken in year 2019 was the last National exam which they had sat for, apart from the coming two-years-time 2025 A-level final exit point exam,
since
IP students have already by-passed this year 2023 O-level exam,
except for that one single subject Higher Chinese exam, which IP students must take & must clear, if they want to stop taking H1 (Chinese) in JC1 next year, 2024. -
Birth rate is record low, so very child is even more precious now. Every child who can cross over the lowered hurdle is better than not crossing over at all. Will always remember those kids who didn’t make it through, RV boys and those who weren’t in the news. System change can only do so much. Dont think taking away psle, exams is what parents want too.
Read somewhere uni places are increased too. Very heartening that someone is taking notice and actually taking action.
They recognised that producing exam smarts kids is not future proof as tge world is changing as we speak. -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2099583\" time=\"1677746313\" user_id=\"35251:
Currently 2023 mid-year exam is removed for first batch of guinea pigs having NO Sec 4 mid year exam this year. In other words, expect the first batch of guinea pigs not to have J2 mid year exam in 2025. Piggies born in 2007 are guinea pigs 😂
Can do away with JC1 mid-year exam ,
since
O-level results released on 12 January,
announced JC posting by February 1st week,
after that
still got to attend 1st year JC orientation, settle down in your JC, get to know your fellow classmates + class subject Teachers, don't teach much during this busy orientation period. So, nothing much to test anyway, since nothing much has been taught in Term 1.
But,
MOE should not do away with JC2 mid year exam. This JC2 mid-year exam is crucial,
since
so many IP students never sat for O level exam. To them, this A level exam is their most important exit point, since Sec 1. -
Last night Education minister was interviewed on a channel 8 program. He shared an anecdote where the business leaders told him the skill set they wish their employee can possess. The minister then joked about signing a contract with the business leaders, if the schools teach the knowledge the business need, to the students, the business will commit to employ all of them. The business leaders change their mind, saying time will change and skill set needed may change too. And finally all of them concluded the most important skill set needed by students is the willingness to continue learning even after school days are over, the curiosity/motivated mindset to explore new things. Education minister added the schools teach the basics. It is a continuous process students still have to learn on the job how to apply these basics in the real world.
And we are seeing those changes in the education system in recent years. They may not be perfect but they are in the right direction, not for the short 20 years benefits some of us could be focusing on (not wrong, it’s individuals perspective, and as long not taken to the extreme), but for the 60 years long term benefits of our child.
May the RV boys be at peace -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2099621\" time=\"1677785609\" user_id=\"35251:
The new norm of RP70 will be academically eligible to apply for Law/Med/Dentistry (of cos depends on subject combo). At the same time, we can also expect to see more students with RP70 apply for other courses like Biz Ad and Accountancy etc.
You are absolutely right, lee_yl.
More candidates now can acquire perfect score, at A level. Leading to much more fiercer intense competition fight, into the more highly popular in demand faculty courses in the uni.
Forsee that
just from these two JCs alone (RI + Hwa Chong) JC(2) A-level graduates, easily
at least half the cohort size will be targeting for highly popular faculties (department of study specialization),
not to mention
also got other applicants (candidates) coming in from rest of the remaining (IP + Non-IP) JCs,
Plus
also got several applicants with very good performance from NUS High
Plus
also so many other applicants from the IB route (SJI + ACSI + other International colleges) :
so many of them score above 40 readily (easily), &
also targeting for the same, highly popular faculties. Hence, expect great hot intense competition !
Therefore, we are likely to see a shift in the IGP of many local Uni courses to AAA? If half of the Uni courses may require AAA, will it be like order of choice matters more now?
Last night my DD was telling me, had she belonged to the batch under the new system, she would have changed her studying strategy. She would deliberately get U for Econs (H1) and just focus on doing well for her other 3 H2 subjects! 😂 -
https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/level-scoring-lower-stress-students-not-sure-removal-mid-year-exams-2119621?cid=internal_sharetool_iphone_03032023_today
This part I found worrying (has the culture at RV not changed abit after the incident?)
……A Secondary 4 student who wanted to be known only as Ling said that she will not be changing her choice of subjects when she enters junior college next year under the Integrated Programme, despite the latest changes.
The 16-year-old from River Valley High School said that she still intends to take subjects such as mathematics and economics in junior college.
This is because these subjects tend to be basic requirements for most university courses.
She also said that although these changes aim to reduce emphasis on grades, she will still feel “a self-imposed stress” where she expects herself to reach her academic goals.
“And in school, teachers will still push us to perform well academically so it will still be stressful,” she added.
On whether the changes will encourage her to pursue her interests, she said: “Personally, I don’t have passion for any subject in particular. I feel like passion for subjects comes from performing well in them, so at the end of the day, grades kind of still do matter.”
……
Her only hobby or interest is studying for validation from grades? -
I applaud her for being frank and authentic, and I always like hearing it from a child's perspective. Even at the work place, how many of us derive our satisfaction from doing well at work, rather than love the nature of of our jobs passionately?
How many of our kids will say the same to themselves or amongst their friends (perhaps they won't have the courage to say this to adults?)
The reality is that most people will not discover their passions by that age, and even if they do, may not have the support or luxury to pursue them.zac's mum\" post_id=\"2099653\" time=\"1677810119\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2099653 time=1677810119 user_id=53606]https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/level-scoring-lower-stress-students-not-sure-removal-mid-year-exams-2119621?cid=internal_sharetool_iphone_03032023_today
This part I found worrying (has the culture at RV not changed abit after the incident?)
……A Secondary 4 student who wanted to be known only as Ling said that she will not be changing her choice of subjects when she enters junior college next year under the Integrated Programme, despite the latest changes.
The 16-year-old from River Valley High School said that she still intends to take subjects such as mathematics and economics in junior college.
This is because these subjects tend to be basic requirements for most university courses.
She also said that although these changes aim to reduce emphasis on grades, she will still feel “a self-imposed stress” where she expects herself to reach her academic goals.
“And in school, teachers will still push us to perform well academically so it will still be stressful,” she added.
On whether the changes will encourage her to pursue her interests, she said: “Personally, I don’t have passion for any subject in particular. I feel like passion for subjects comes from performing well in them, so at the end of the day, grades kind of still do matter.”
……
Her only hobby or interest is studying for validation from grades?[/quote] -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2099653\" time=\"1677810119\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2099653 time=1677810119 user_id=53606]
Let's hope she's a minority? If that's her experience for the past 16 years, it may have been well-ingrained. Not that it can't be changed, but it may not be easy.
https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/level-scoring-lower-stress-students-not-sure-removal-mid-year-exams-2119621?cid=internal_sharetool_iphone_03032023_today
This part I found worrying (has the culture at RV not changed abit after the incident?)
……A Secondary 4 student who wanted to be known only as Ling said that she will not be changing her choice of subjects when she enters junior college next year under the Integrated Programme, despite the latest changes.
The 16-year-old from River Valley High School said that she still intends to take subjects such as mathematics and economics in junior college.
This is because these subjects tend to be basic requirements for most university courses.
She also said that although these changes aim to reduce emphasis on grades, she will still feel “a self-imposed stress” where she expects herself to reach her academic goals.
“And in school, teachers will still push us to perform well academically so it will still be stressful,” she added.
On whether the changes will encourage her to pursue her interests, she said: “Personally, I don’t have passion for any subject in particular. I feel like passion for subjects comes from performing well in them, so at the end of the day, grades kind of still do matter.”
……
Her only hobby or interest is studying for validation from grades?[/quote]
My friend's son is like that too - when asked what subjects he's interested in, he just says \"I did well in xx, yy\". Whether it's their own natural inclination of something that's been ingrained by parents/school/peers, who knows? His brother doesn't think like that. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2099652\" time=\"1677809199\" user_id=\"17023:
Haha but the A level certificate won't look pretty :rotflmao:
The new norm of RP70 will be academically eligible to apply for Law/Med/Dentistry (of cos depends on subject combo). At the same time, we can also expect to see more students with RP70 apply for other courses like Biz Ad and Accountancy etc.
Therefore, we are likely to see a shift in the IGP of many local Uni courses to AAA? If half of the Uni courses may require AAA, will it be like order of choice matters more now?
Last night my DD was telling me, had she belonged to the batch under the new system, she would have changed her studying strategy. She would deliberately get U for Econs (H1) and just focus on doing well for her other 3 H2 subjects! 😂
For a course like Business, you'll never know what they look for in aptitude-based admissions (which more universities and courses are expanding, and now there are fewer direct admission places) - who knows they may look at Economics as one of the indicators if the subject was taken? -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2099660\" time=\"1677811122\" user_id=\"28674:
Is his brother in the same school as him? If so, then the parent and school factors can be eliminated & boils down to personality.
Let's hope she's a minority? If that's her experience for the past 16 years, it may have been well-ingrained. Not that it can't be changed, but it may not be easy.
My friend's son is like that too - when asked what subjects he's interested in, he just says \"I did well in xx, yy\". Whether it's their own natural inclination of something that's been ingrained by parents/school/peers, who knows? His brother doesn't think like that.
My son is now taking quite an interest in English Lit. And starting to gain insight on how to answer inferential questions. I credit it to the teachers. Remains to be seen whether can score well or not. And whether a poor grade would turn him off the subject (I dont think so).
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