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    Can through-train school work in kiasu Singapore?

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    • zac's mumZ Offline
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      If do big scale will totally screw up COPs. Are we ready to accept that?

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      • Imp75I Offline
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        zac's mum\" post_id=\"2101034\" time=\"1678787209\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2101034 time=1678787209 user_id=53606]
        If do big scale will totally screw up COPs. Are we ready to accept that?[/quote]
        Why do we need cop when it’s TT? Already say no psle? Going into IP will probably need a “psle” or entrance kind of exams (however I wanna call it).

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        • bbbayB Offline
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          What if some of those TT kids do poorly in O level? What will be the plan for these 17 yo after that?

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          • zac's mumZ Offline
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            Imp75\" post_id=\"2101035\" time=\"1678787737\" user_id=\"2358:

            Why do we need cop when it’s TT? Already say no psle? Going into IP will probably need a “psle” or entrance kind of exams (however I wanna call it).
            So what COP will the IP schools end up with?

            And what about the non-IP but Express SAP schools (eg NHHS, MSHS)? What COP will they have?

            And what about the FSBB schools? What COP will they have?

            When nobody knows how many of the primary school population will be opting in or out, how to gauge the demand and anticipated COP of these secondary schools? Not total screw up meh?

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            • Zeal mummyZ Offline
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              I think we already have through-train schools, they are called a different name… haha…

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              • zac's mumZ Offline
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                bbbay\" post_id=\"2101041\" time=\"1678788235\" user_id=\"175278:

                What if some of those TT kids do poorly in O level? What will be the plan for these 17 yo after that?
                It wont be a total shock since the TT school will be having their yearly exams like all schools. If by O levels still no improvement despite remedials, then I guess their path will be exactly the same as those mainstream kids who do poorly in O levels.

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                • Zeal mummyZ Offline
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                  What if some of those TT kids do poorly in O level? What will be the plan for these 17 yo after that?
                  There are many options, polytechnics/ITE and there’s a shortage of manpower in the malls. Especially in sales and services etc.

                  And if they prefer to upgrade themselves, then they will have to work harder to meet entry requirements for higher education.

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                  • Imp75I Offline
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                    zac's mum\" post_id=\"2101042\" time=\"1678788554\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2101042 time=1678788554 user_id=53606]
                    So what COP will the IP schools end up with?

                    And what about the non-IP but Express SAP schools (eg NHHS, MSHS)? What COP will they have?

                    And what about the FSBB schools? What COP will they have?

                    When nobody knows how many of the primary school population will be opting in or out, how to gauge the demand and anticipated COP of these secondary schools? Not total screw up meh?[/quote]
                    By then all schools other than IP are homogenous …..all schools are good schools ya……I don’t even think the concept of express only even applies since there’s already SBB which could be differentiated at the sec Sch level.

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                    • VeyronV Offline
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                      If the intend of TT system is for P6 students to skip PSLE and nothing else, then it will be not difficult for MOE to run a dual patth program to to allow P6 students to skip PSLE and yet still get promoted to secondary school. However if parents are expecting TT to help them secure enrolment to good and branded secondary school without PSLE, then the TT will fail.


                      Personally I think its unrealistic and cruel to expect parents to commit their preschooler to a 10 years untested and unproven program. At the same time, its also not possible for MOE to justify commiting resources to creating TT schools without certainty of the demand for such program.

                      What we need to avoid is to spend all the resources and effort to create TT schoo but there is no demand because the schools are not branded enough to entice parents to sign up. For these reasons, MOE will most unlikely to create any special TT schools with single purpose for now.

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                      • 00skyblue000 Offline
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                        I do not support to completely remove PSLE.


                        It is still necessary for smarter kids but without resources to display their abilities, whom may go unnoticed otherwise, and talents esp in baby scarce sg should not go wasted. Those who want psle to be abolished are those with means and resources. I recall, psle was meant to give a better chance for the common people. But i cannot find the source. So we have to think carefully before removing it.

                        https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://lkyspp.nus.edu.sg/docs/default-source/ips/td_psle-still-a-necessary-checkpoint-for-students-study_170717-pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiTrJmRudv9AhV3xDgGHa4dDEYQFnoECB8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw15uueU9HOME4OtmhScqWEo

                        lkyspp.nus.edu.sg
                        https://lkyspp.nus.edu.sg › ipsPDF
                        PSLE still a necessary checkpoint for students: Study

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