DSA 2023

[LevainQ]

Paneermomo\" post_id=\"2115144\" time=\"1690814579\" user_id=\"202162:

DSA outcome will be released via email or snail mail?

Email... some may follow up w a letter...

[lassie girl]

From what I have seen in recent years, students who get in top schools via non-academic dsa often do not get enough credit for being strong in BOTH their academic results and their talent dormains. Gone are the days when only medals or ranking matter. The schools’ selection panel needs to not only be accountable to their own school leaders for the CO+WL given, but also to the ministry that they all report to. Of course the top schools will always get a bigger pool of applicants and they can choose the best among them, and since they have a bigger pool of talents to pick from, they pick talented candidates who give the schools less problems in their academics.


For those who had outdated information about past lax dsa requirements and think schools only want the child’s talent but don’t care about their academics, or felt disgruntled because someone else’s kid was selected but not yours - fret not. The selection committee might be doing u and your child a favor by not giving the spot to candidates whom they think can’t cope with the academic rigors + can’t contribute for the talent dormain. Interestingly, more often than not, the cohort that comes in via psle score into these top schools are usually quite multi talented too, thus no lack of talent pool to be honest.

For IP schools with dual track ie o levels, the schools are able to move the students to a different track if deem unsuitable midway. One straightforward way to assess if a “pure” IP school has been effective in their dsa selection - check if there is a need for them to open any o level class in recent years. Granted those who went in by psle score might not make it through too but it gives u an idea of how the school supports their students. Do your own research by asking the right questions.

For those who have the opportunity to progress through the various stages of selection tests or trials/auditions/interviews, hope u and your child have a better idea now on which is a better fit for your child. Personally after seeing so many real life examples of dsa success and failure stories, I can only conclude that the real winners in this dsa “game” are the parents who found the right fit for their child - the school which is able to bring out the best in their child for the next 4-6 years. Good luck. :rahrah:

[bbbay]

MissPPP\" post_id=\"2115143\" time=\"1690813737\" user_id=\"200335:

Hi it is quite well known that RI will take in top medalists even with weak P5/6 grades for DSA. They are very hungry for the achievements.

By achievements I presume it is the DSA domains achievements since we are taking about medals. I am not sure myself too. But how sure are we that top schools like RI care mostly about achievements for the school and not about developing the child in talent domain, academic and character, when they see a potential candidate?

I don’t think MOE’s KPI to the schools put medals number ahead of education outcomes in students

[keas]

lassie girl\" post_id=\"2115150\" time=\"1690823267\" user_id=\"35383:[quote=\"lassie girl\" post_id=2115150 time=1690823267 user_id=35383]
From what I have seen in recent years, students who get in top schools via non-academic dsa often do not get enough credit for being strong in BOTH their academic results and their talent dormains. Gone are the days when only medals or ranking matter. The schools’ selection panel needs to not only be accountable to their own school leaders for the CO+WL given, but also to the ministry that they all report to. Of course the top schools will always get a bigger pool of applicants and they can choose the best among them, and since they have a bigger pool of talents to pick from, they pick talented candidates who give the schools less problems in their academics.

For those who had outdated information about past lax dsa requirements and think schools only want the child’s talent but don’t care about their academics, or felt disgruntled because someone else’s kid was selected but not yours - fret not. The selection committee might be doing u and your child a favor by not giving the spot to candidates whom they think can’t cope with the academic rigors + can’t contribute for the talent dormain. Interestingly, more often than not, the cohort that comes in via psle score into these top schools are usually quite multi talented too, thus no lack of talent pool to be honest.

For IP schools with dual track ie o levels, the schools are able to move the students to a different track if deem unsuitable midway. One straightforward way to assess if a “pure” IP school has been effective in their dsa selection - check if there is a need for them to open any o level class in recent years. Granted those who went in by psle score might not make it through too but it gives u an idea of how the school supports their students. Do your own research by asking the right questions.

For those who have the opportunity to progress through the various stages of selection tests or trials/auditions/interviews, hope u and your child have a better idea now on which is a better fit for your child. Personally after seeing so many real life examples of dsa success and failure stories, I can only conclude that the real winners in this dsa “game” are the parents who found the right fit for their child - the school which is able to bring out the best in their child for the next 4-6 years. Good luck. :rahrah:[/quote]

Thanks, great to know the info and update myself. Just sharing what I know.

Though sometimes I do see parents not happy cos their kids are not chosen, but not all. Words about feelings guessing are not necessary. I don’t know if the other parents are really disgruntled or not. 😊

Thanks!

[wwjd.040411idkwhatiamdoing]

Winterapple\" post_id=\"2115113\" time=\"1690805120\" user_id=\"131173:

A long wait till 11 Sep is unbearable for the parents and kid. Wonder if any school domain has announced its CO & WL?

NUSH should be emailing parents this week.

[Prislga]

Actually my gripe is not about whether the child is ultimately chosen. But the way some schools conduct auditions / interviews should be proper.


My child attended 3 in 2 schools. First 2 went well, teachers / leaders were very friendly and encouraging as they afforded the full allocated time for the child. Child was also confident things went well for both stages.

However the later school, vibe given to child was like the disinterested teachers were preoccupied and eager to end the session fast and cut short the session in under 10 min.

I get it that maybe the school has identified their targets or someone on the panel instinctively felt the child was not a fit but they should at least at face value give every child they shortlisted their allocated time and not cut short the audition/interview.

For my child this was the last audition of the 2 schools so was not that much affected. I can’t imagine if it was the 1st or only for many kids.

[00skyblue00]

Prislga\" post_id=\"2115176\" time=\"1690852080\" user_id=\"202061:

Actually my gripe is not about whether the child is ultimately chosen. But the way some schools conduct auditions / interviews should be proper.

My child attended 3 in 2 schools. First 2 went well, teachers / leaders were very friendly and encouraging as they afforded the full allocated time for the child. Child was also confident things went well for both stages.

However the later school, vibe given to child was like the disinterested teachers were preoccupied and eager to end the session fast and cut short the session in under 10 min.

I get it that maybe the school has identified their targets or someone on the panel instinctively felt the child was not a fit but they should at least at face value give every child they shortlisted their allocated time and not cut short the audition/interview.

For my child this was the last audition of the 2 schools so was not that much affected. I can't imagine if it was the 1st or only for many kids.

I will take it as a hint. EAsier to make decisions. Better than the school gives false hope and outcome is still the same. It's the school #2 loss. But everyone's take is different.

[fool]

Prislga\" post_id=\"2115176\" time=\"1690852080\" user_id=\"202061:

Actually my gripe is not about whether the child is ultimately chosen. But the way some schools conduct auditions / interviews should be proper.

My child attended 3 in 2 schools. First 2 went well, teachers / leaders were very friendly and encouraging as they afforded the full allocated time for the child. Child was also confident things went well for both stages.

However the later school, vibe given to child was like the disinterested teachers were preoccupied and eager to end the session fast and cut short the session in under 10 min.

I get it that maybe the school has identified their targets or someone on the panel instinctively felt the child was not a fit but they should at least at face value give every child they shortlisted their allocated time and not cut short the audition/interview.

For my child this was the last audition of the 2 schools so was not that much affected. I can't imagine if it was the 1st or only for many kids.

You gotta let them know there is not always love from anyone, even from teachers. They will face tougher adults moving forward, so I'd take this as a opportunity for 'reality' education: You gonna see this more in your life.

Teach them how to deal with the emotion, and how to empathically feel for the teacher as well, after all the teachers are human, they have their difficulties too.

All the best to your child.

[Momof2K]

Paneermomo\" post_id=\"2115144\" time=\"1690814579\" user_id=\"202162:

DSA outcome will be released via email or snail mail?

Depends on the school. The pure dsa school will release earlier via email. Some school will send the hard copy letters near or on 11 sept only on the outcome.

[Momof2K]

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Received DHS Leadership Interview invite, is on this Wed.

Is this only the first round? No prior assessment/ interview? Group intv?