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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2121453\" time=\"1698198690\" user_id=\"43981:
i think elective Hist is about - the cold /Korea war, Holocaust, Europe war etc,
Dd likes to read history but not the exam. She says it is very interesting to read.
Pure Hist includes SEasia - heavy content
my kids compare Pure Geo and Pure Hist - discovered pure Hist need to study an extra TB , so they opted Elective.
one kid took Pure Geo, one elective Geog . SS / Elective Geog or SS/ Elec Hist - kids said higher disctinction rate , dunno how true, but true for my ds n his classmates. esp SS/ Geog -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2121476\" time=\"1698209934\" user_id=\"17023:
Yes, we may not share all values with people from PRC nowadays but is it necessary to speak English instead of Mandarin so as not to be associated with them. There are Malaysian Chinese, Indonesian Chinese.....do all overseas Chinese have to stop speaking mandarin because they do not want to associate with people from Mainland China?
Well, our ancestors were from China but why did we not want to return to our ancestors’ land?
The answer is obvious, we have moved on to become Singaporean Chinese, our identify is different and we no longer share many common values with the PRC Chinese.
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Ancestors coming for China does not mean they speak Mandarin. If granma was still around she will say her mother tongue is Teochew.
My father speaks Teochew, Malay and English. My mum Hokkien, Malay and English. When they were in school they were taught English and Malay, and for my Dad during the Jap occupation, Japanese. They were not taught Chinese. Paternal grandma was from Swatow so she speaks Teochew, maternal grandma was Peranakan so she speaks Malay. My family do not speak Mandarin. We speak mainly English and Teochew. My 1st real exposure to Chinese was when I started Primary school, parents sort of forgot to enroll me for Kindergarten until it was time to register me for primary school, so I ended up attending only a few mths of kindy. I went to a school that does not allow students to speak in any other language except for English outside of their 2nd language classes. So for a family like mine, Chinese was tough. English was easy, natural. -
Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2121482\" time=\"1698214697\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2121482 time=1698214697 user_id=195250]
If a Singaporean Chinese doesn’t wish to be mistaken for PRC Chinese and there are good reasons for such a consideration, I would respect it. Why is there a :siao: icon there? Are you referring to my DH?
Yes, we may not share all values with people from PRC nowadays but is it necessary to speak English instead of Mandarin so as not to be associated with them. There are Malaysian Chinese, Indonesian Chinese.....do all overseas Chinese have to stop speaking mandarin because they do not want to associate with people from Mainland China? :siao:[/quote]
You may not recall but at the height of Covid panic, when PRC Chinese were deemed to be carriers of the ‘Wuhan’ virus in most countries, it would be prudent not to be associated (or mistaken) as PRC Chinese.
I see myself as a Singaporean Chinese, I am proud of my Chinese heritage but I don’t see a need to be associated or mistaken as a PRC Chinese!!!
PRC is neither my 祖国 nor does it have a special place in my heart. -
Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2121482\" time=\"1698214697\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2121482 time=1698214697 user_id=195250]
Not all ethnic Chinese who left China pre-1949 spoke Mandarin! Maybe only the highly-educated ones, but many migrants were not from that group. For many like my family, it's not that we have chosen to \"stop\" speaking Mandarin - there was no history of speaking Mandarin at all. My paternal side is Peranakan and have been in Indonesia/Sg (as far as I know) for about 4-5 generations - they spoke Malay and Hokkien. My maternal grandmother's family was in E Malaysia - they spoke Foochow and Malay. My maternal grandfather was from China and spoke Foochow. My parents went to English-speaking schools where they were discouraged from using other languages. We spoke, and speak, purely English at home. Even my grandparents' generation learned to speak English for survival, but not Mandarin. So what is my \"mother tongue\"? Certainly not Mandarin!
Yes, we may not share all values with people from PRC nowadays but is it necessary to speak English instead of Mandarin so as not to be associated with them. There are Malaysian Chinese, Indonesian Chinese.....do all overseas Chinese have to stop speaking mandarin because they do not want to associate with people from Mainland China? :siao:[/quote] -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2121486\" time=\"1698215708\" user_id=\"17023:
Sorry for any offences, I have amended my post already.
If a Singaporean Chinese doesn’t wish to be mistaken for PRC Chinese and there are good reasons for such a consideration, I would respect it. Why is there a :siao: icon there? Are you referring to my DH?
You may not recall but at the height of Covid panic, when PRC Chinese were deemed to be carriers of the ‘Wuhan’ virus in most countries, it would be prudent not to be associated (or mistaken) as PRC Chinese.
I see myself as a Singaporean Chinese, I am proud of my Chinese heritage but I don’t see a need to be associated or mistaken as a PRC Chinese!!!
PRC is neither my 祖国 nor does it have a special place in my heart. -
SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2121460\" time=\"1698203379\" user_id=\"188234:
I remember DD2 was shortlisted by teacher to do Chinese Lit during sec sch days and she was ok to do it. But we advised her not to and asked her to apply for Bicultural studies instead, which has a lot more takers than Chinese Lit.
:rahrah: :rahrah: .
English Lit was in my older one's second choice of subject combinations, and in hindsight I kind of wish that the class would have been taken as a second full humanities (not that it was my choice). As for E Lit vs. CL Lit, I guess it is kind of a toss-up, and again reverts to the student. Mainly, I probably just think it is nice to leverage one of the (somewhat unique) capabilities of the school you are in (not that it is absolutely mandatory or huge advantage).
As for Geo and in response to other replies, one of my kids seems to like the class a fair amount (at least talks about this subject more than E Lit or History). From what I can gather, many of the topics or concepts are around you in everyday life, and this provokes some additional thoughts. The other one thought the class was being operated as test first, teach the right answer after handing back a lot of red ink
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As for Geography, one of my neighbor’s kid studied Geo and couldn’t find a suitable job in SG for a long time. So he migrated to New Zealand to be a land surveyor there. These past few years, heard he was doing very well $$ because a lot of PRCs went there to buy land for their houses. -
Actually regarding the choice of language, don’t we all see who we are speaking with and then code switch? So it doesn’t really matter whether we sisal English mandarin or even dialect? I see it only as a form of communication or a tool to get comfortable with the counterparty.
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I find that so far …the first gen Sporean fm China now or China Chinese, the way/tone they speak is different from us. Even the look also sometimes may be different. Can easily differentiate as of now…but once fully integrated then it will be like one of us. Culture may have some differences. Dd2 tuition teacher is from China but quite well integrated already in terms of way she speaks…Eng+Mandarin haha… probably been here for a long time and her kid is also taking psle. .Just give and take ba. So far I m ok with spoken lang easily switch just the reading needs more effort.
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SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2121460\" time=\"1698203379\" user_id=\"188234:
😁
:rahrah: :rahrah: .
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