2023 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2011)
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blackyv\" post_id=\"2120329\" time=\"1696757344\" user_id=\"56432:
Plenty of Chinese tuition classes around for IP Chinese.
Agree, actually she can handle her school work well without tuition until beginning of p6 when we ask her any subject she needs help, then only we send her to maths tuition. She did attend Chinese tuition since p1.. my wife scares they eat potato if don't force them take Chinese tuition . As for science, her strongest paper all the time, always the top few in class even without tuition and coaching from us.. she is a person who can and will do up a nice mind map notes herself
If she can do well for PSLE Science, then there should be no fear for the IP Science. There will be an adjustment period for sure. In IP schools, kids are encouraged to seek out teachers for consultations when they need help.
No need assessment books or exam papers. It is much better to go ask the teachers to provide extra questions if kids need practice questions. -
blackyv\" post_id=\"2120329\" time=\"1696757344\" user_id=\"56432:
SAP school is better choice if want to maintain Chinese standard. They have more resources to teach Chinese language and culture (an example is my child’s SAP school has a 茶艺馆)if the child is willing to put in effort too. If your child decide on O level, Another incentive of taking Higher Chinese in SAP school is the 2 bonus points (a pass will do) from taking Higher mother tongue. These 2 points can make the difference between meeting cut off point or not, get admitted or need to ballot, for any prefer JC. Do take note too there will be an exam in Sec 3 to gauge whether students are good enough to take Higher Chinese at Sec 4 O level exam. Some parents play safe by sending child to SAP school affiliated with a JC. Should they don’t qualify to take Higher Chinese O level, they still can use the 2 affiliation bonus points to apply to the affiliated JC.
She did attend Chinese tuition since p1.. my wife scares they eat potato if don't force them take Chinese tuition . -
bbbay\" post_id=\"2120345\" time=\"1696806605\" user_id=\"175278:
Well, my wife just want her know Chinese and not become a potato, she doesn't like Chinese actually and even when she was offered to take HCL, she doesn't want it and we didn't force her to take too. And she did mention she doesn't want a secondary school that focus on Chinese.. so I guess sap is out too. Haha..
SAP school is better choice if want to maintain Chinese standard. They have more resources to teach Chinese language and culture (an example is my child’s SAP school has a 茶艺馆)if the child is willing to put in effort too. If your child decide on O level, Another incentive of taking Higher Chinese in SAP school is the 2 bonus points (a pass will do) from taking Higher mother tongue. These 2 points can make the difference between meeting cut off point or not, get admitted or need to ballot, for any prefer JC. Do take note too there will be an exam in Sec 3 to gauge whether students are good enough to take Higher Chinese at Sec 4 O level exam. Some parents play safe by sending child to SAP school affiliated with a JC. Should they don’t qualify to take Higher Chinese O level, they still can use the 2 affiliation bonus points to apply to the affiliated JC. -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2120272\" time=\"1696681697\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2120272 time=1696681697 user_id=53606]
There are 2 IB JCs:
ACSI COP 5
SJI COP 7
But i am also of the belief that it is not easy to get into good JCs via O level results. If the child has already scored well in PSLE and qualifies for a good IP school, just let them go. Why make them compete again at O levels for fun? Unless they really find it fun.[/quote]
I agree with what Zac’s mum is saying . It isn’t that fun to take another national exam …
One of the beauty of IP bypassing O level is you can aim for an end-point of 4 subjects at A level . So along the way if the student mess up certain subjects , it’s kinda fine - just narrow down to the best 4. -
I have discovered one thing (which is rarely discussed here): in order for a child to be considered for lateral transfer to a higher stream (and this applies for NT to NA, NA to Exp, Exp to IP) he must score at least an average of 70 in all core subjects, ie be in the top band of students in that stream.
However, the child who is already in that stream (via PSLE score), only has to (pass English, and) score an average of 50.
There may be some minor variations of these requirements but they are minor.
In view of this, my opinion remains: give u free Ferrari u dun want, say u want to slog and buy your own bmw. Nowadays COE liddat so fun to work for it ah. -
How do you know if one wouldn’t get into fatal accident driving Ferrari to KL the next day? Not everyone likes Ferrari. Forgoing Ferrari may lead to Lamborghini, who knows right. what is life’s end point? Why use same measure for different children?
From O to IB, was told the bar is 85pc. So O to IP shouldn’t be too shabby. -
00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2122155\" time=\"1699186735\" user_id=\"143605:
If i find that I dislike driving the Ferrari myself, there are more options available to me. Eg (no longer an IP analogy now) i can sell it off to cash out, i can trade in for a smaller car or two, etc etc. It is worthy capital basically.
How do you know if one wouldn't get into fatal accident driving Ferrari to KL the next day? Not everyone likes Ferrari. Forgoing Ferrari may lead to Lamborghini, who knows right. what is life's end point? Why use same measure for different children?
From O to IB, was told the bar is 85pc. So O to IP shouldn't be too shabby.
Yes 85% for IB based on some sources. And GAT (unless it is waived). -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2122157\" time=\"1699187867\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2122157 time=1699187867 user_id=53606]
It's not just abt like or dislike. The fatality...
If i find that I dislike driving the Ferrari myself, there are more options available to me. Eg (no longer an IP analogy now) i can sell it off to cash out, i can trade in for a smaller car or two, etc etc. It is worthy capital basically.
Yes 85% for IB based on some sources. And GAT (unless it is waived).[/quote]
For those not doing well, in 50 range or below, hard to imagine what they are going through to be envied. And knowing there are still those who are scoring 90s there...
Kind of like taking HCL in sec sch. Only staying afloat at 50s and always wondering if it's good enough to get a decent grade for CL when time calls for it.
U cant exchange a IP place for something else so easily i believe. And i believe you may not understand fully, as IP is not abt skipping a national exam. This national exam to IP kids are nothing. Once upon a time, when there is no IP, many of these kids did very well too easily. Hence come about IP. So we are talking about different groups of children here.
Kids who get AL4, 5, or 85-90 pc, yes, they are clear cut cases. Usually they still score very well in sec sch. The in between ones 6-8 are less definite but most will get the hand of being stretched sooner or later. But they should do decently well in Os too. Generally speaking.
My two cents. -
I think kids who can score total AL6 to AL8 in PSLE will also score well enough in O levels, even though Sec sch is different from studying for PSLE. A kid who scores AL5 vs another who scores AL8 are really not that big a difference in learning capacities.
Even if a 12 year old may need parental/tutor’s guidance and reminders, it does not mean the kiddo will continue to need the same amount of attention from adults in Secondary Sch. So if my kid’s PSLE scores allow him to enter IP, I will let him try instead of worrying if he can cope. The kids will grow up, be more mature, have the abilities and capacities to learn more skills to help them manage.
Lateral transfer from Express to IP (IB) is not just based on academic results of Year 1 and 2. Must score above 85%, yes, but results is just one criteria out of a long list. There were cases of kids who scored above 85% but still did not get lateral transfer opportunities because the decision makers assessed kid as not suitable for IP after looking at the other criteria. -
My post was to address the thinking that the reason to choose IP over O level, is to skip another national exam O level which is another stress for teens again after going through PSLE. Dont agree with this thinking. O level should not be too stressful for this group if kids in general, esp if they are independent already. In fact, PSLE was not stressful for them too. Most are already independent by p5.
Kids who did well to score within top 10pc or even AL9 or 10, without too much external assistance, should not face too much difficulties in Os. No disagreement.
Whether to choose between the two when given the choice, obviously there are different schools of thought, even in this forum. No right or wrong.
Most will proceed to IP if qualify but there are many who didn’t choose IP and eventually reach the same IP JCs too. There is no loss too. There are those who may qualify IP JCs but choose other JCs too.
Those few who are still easily scoring 90s or 85s in express stream are definitely no ordinary kids. So them applying for IP or IB sec 3 intake is not surprising and should be encouraged. This few may need more stimulation to uncover their true potential. But yes, not all can pass all selection criteria.
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