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    • MrsKiasuM Offline
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      Esteema, so nice to see snow. Never mind just thin layer. I doubt we can see any…going to a place at temp -3.

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      • EstéemaE Offline
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        MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2123954\" time=\"1701180555\" user_id=\"43981:

        Esteema, so nice to see snow. Never mind just thin layer. I doubt we can see any..going to a place at temp -3.
        Where are u going? -3 probably u’ll get snow?

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        • 00skyblue000 Offline
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          lee_yl\" post_id=\"2123873\" time=\"1701135943\" user_id=\"17023:

          Don’t think many parents out there sign up for TLL tuition for all subjects bah.

          Even if I don’t send my kids for tuition in all subjects, but I am a SAHM and I dish out assessment books to teach them myself, does that not constitute to another form of tuition or enrichment?

          Have you not come across any Singaporean kids who enjoy FULL childhood without any tuition since day 1? I have seen one such case. My cousin truly believes that kids should enjoy their childhood. Her house is full of toys and candies and she still pats her (teenage) kids to sleep every night!!

          Both her kids are currently in sec sch and only interested in gummies, candies, playing toys /watch YouTube videos. I am not sure if niece/nephew can even graduate even if sent to overseas Uni because they aren’t ambitious, hate books plus values of delayed gratification, hard work, discipline and perseverance were not instilled in them since young.
          Full childhood does not mean no parenting. Parenting is for ensuring the child learning the basic discipline, know right from wrong, social norm and good character building.

          So full childhood does not mearn only whole day toys and youtube.

          Yes, I have a few around me. Not applicable to your children though.

          One relative decided from day 1, gave 3 children freedom to become who they want to be and within own means. To me is good enough in Sg terms to be full childhood but with parenting ways.

          All three did poly. Eg. youngest did private uni in sg (overseas based), then internship at SGH and alr got job offer by SGH before graduation (only last year). No, it was not nursing or healthcare, but she did business planning/mangement related to healthcare. All three grad from pri uni and are working and one even has own family. Was told the extra fees are comparable to what parents nowadays are paying for tuition. the youngest even grad earlier than her batch from A level route to local uni.

          Another case, parent was from poly to pri uni. hence from day 1 already decided no need to chase the paper like others. Alr planned for her 3 kids to do pri uni after poly. But one managed to do better and doing A level in JC. The youngest still in sec, can choose either.

          Just sharing. PArents can do the math and calculate how much they have spent and going to spend on tuition for the child's whole journey. I do not object if child go tuition for the right reasons. For example, sch teacher keep changing or assigned temp teacher is lousy, child asked for tuition/help. By all means, as parents if we can, provide and support as much as we think we should, there is no sin in seeking help/tuition. We just have to ensure that child will not become impaired if over-reliant on tuition. because tuition providers are mostly not trained in pedagogy and child psychology. Children may be learning the wrong ways of learning and still arrive at the correct answers.

          PEace

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          • Liew Nga WingL Offline
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            It’s fine when a kid is willing and happy to go for tuitions and the parents can afford. The issues is

            when a kid doesn’t want to go tuitions but the parents force him/her to go. Why not to let the kid have a say?

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            • phtthpP Offline
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              In Singapore context, kids usually tend to attend tuition, in … Chinese and Maths.


              No need to attend tuition in ALL PSLE subjects, but

              (Chinese + Maths) often are the two most popular ones in demand, for tuition.

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              • Imp75I Offline
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                For my kids, it was a need-to basis in pri Sch as this mother cannot teach Chinese (yes my CL sucks) and I needed to push my younger ones to a different level based on this “weakest” subject. Not a bad investment I must say cos I started them late and it was $200/mth for combined CL/HCL (4 components) and I recouped them back when they were awarded ESIS for 6y.

                Come sec Sch and jc now, no tuition cos probs do not make any difference and no national exams. Don’t think will do anything different for J2 unless they ask for last minute help (eg GP) which to me, is probably a small cost considering the duration.

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                • lee_ylL Offline
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                  00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2123969\" time=\"1701209062\" user_id=\"143605:

                  Full childhood does not mean no parenting. Parenting is for ensuring the child learning the basic discipline, know right from wrong, social norm and good character building.

                  So full childhood does not mearn only whole day toys and youtube.

                  Yes, I have a few around me. Not applicable to your children though.

                  One relative decided from day 1, gave 3 children freedom to become who they want to be and within own means. To me is good enough in Sg terms to be full childhood but with parenting ways.

                  All three did poly. Eg. youngest did private uni in sg (overseas based), then internship at SGH and alr got job offer by SGH before graduation (only last year). No, it was not nursing or healthcare, but she did business planning/mangement related to healthcare. All three grad from pri uni and are working and one even has own family. Was told the extra fees are comparable to what parents nowadays are paying for tuition. the youngest even grad earlier than her batch from A level route to local uni.

                  Another case, parent was from poly to pri uni. hence from day 1 already decided no need to chase the paper like others. Alr planned for her 3 kids to do pri uni after poly. But one managed to do better and doing A level in JC. The youngest still in sec, can choose either.

                  Just sharing. PArents can do the math and calculate how much they have spent and going to spend on tuition for the child's whole journey. I do not object if child go tuition for the right reasons. For example, sch teacher keep changing or assigned temp teacher is lousy, child asked for tuition/help. By all means, as parents if we can, provide and support as much as we think we should, there is no sin in seeking help/tuition. We just have to ensure that child will not become impaired if over-reliant on tuition. because tuition providers are mostly not trained in pedagogy and child psychology. Children may be learning the wrong ways of learning and still arrive at the correct answers.

                  PEace
                  My cousin gives her kids full freedom to do what they enjoy after a long day in school. The boy usually plays Lego and the girl watches YouTube, do art and craft, just that they do not attend any tuition. That doesn’t mean a lack of parenting as the kids are taught good manners and my cousin also spends quality time bonding with them.

                  The kids receive Good Progress Award. In fact, from what I see, mother and child relationship is very strong. No one in the family gets upset over poor academic results.

                  So your definition of full childhood is the freedom to choose what they want to be be, can be a nurse or an engineer, by their own means. What if the child’s dream is to be a doctor? Then how? For kids who wants to get into coveted courses, the competition is cut throat. It is the same for popular Poly courses. The only recourse is to start the academic preparations early

                  Regarding freedom to choose, what the child just wants to go SMU to do a Business Degree, nothing too outlandish but if the results are not there, the child will be deprived of the “freedom to choose”.

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                  • lee_ylL Offline
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                    phtthp\" post_id=\"2123973\" time=\"1701216479\" user_id=\"35251:

                    In Singapore context, kids usually tend to attend tuition, in .... Chinese and Maths.

                    No need to attend tuition in ALL PSLE subjects, but

                    (Chinese + Maths) often are the two most popular ones in demand, for tuition.
                    True. 9 in 10 Pri school kids I know had shared that they would quit Chinese tuition if their parents allow! Lol

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                    • lee_ylL Offline
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                      Imp75\" post_id=\"2123979\" time=\"1701219032\" user_id=\"2358:

                      For my kids, it was a need-to basis in pri Sch as this mother cannot teach Chinese (yes my CL sucks) and I needed to push my younger ones to a different level based on this “weakest” subject. Not a bad investment I must say cos I started them late and it was $200/mth for combined CL/HCL (4 components) and I recouped them back when they were awarded ESIS for 6y.
                      Come sec Sch and jc now, no tuition cos probs do not make any difference and no national exams. Don’t think will do anything different for J2 unless they ask for last minute help (eg GP) which to me, is probably a small cost considering the duration.
                      I reckon I spent the most tuition fees was when they were in Pri School. When I managed to get them into IP, I quit all tuition.

                      Thereafter, which subject jialak, then start tuition for that subject. Of cos JC2 is different again, as long as my 18yo willing to attend, then just go cos A level is a major exam!

                      Talking about good/bad investment: When I look back, it’s not because I don’t want to send my kids to Eng/Math/Sc quality tuition at TLL. But it’s because TLL fees are very expensive. If FOC for my kids, I will probably send!

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                      • Liew Nga WingL Offline
                        Liew Nga Wing
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                        lee_yl\" post_id=\"2123997\" time=\"1701228069\" user_id=\"17023:


                        Regarding freedom to choose, what the child just wants to go SMU to do a Business Degree, nothing too outlandish but if the results are not there, the child will be deprived of the “freedom to choose”.
                        If the Child is interested to study Business Administration, he/she still can go SIM University, Singapore Polytechnic or even ITE to study, the freedom is there but only not under any special tertiary institutions.

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