JC or Poly?

[blackyv]

hi ,

just to get an opinion, my son have plan to go Poly and also wanted to sign-on. He has interest in aerospace, wish to join airforce. But many of my friend said with just a diploma and sign-on, cannot move up much. As some already pointed out, with a degree , the pay is so much higher compare to a diploma holder.
his Recent prelim is 13, not fantastic but can go JC i think if he maintain his result which my SIL/BIL advice him to go JC route. what would be a sensible advice? im not sure should i try to convince him to go JC route or let him stay with Poly route which he has in mind since last year.

if he sign-on with just a diploma, any chance for him to get degree and move up?

[zac's mum]

blackyv\" post_id=\"2120483\" time=\"1696997864\" user_id=\"56432:

hi ,
just to get an opinion, my son have plan to go Poly and also wanted to sign-on. He has interest in aerospace, wish to join airforce. But many of my friend said with just a diploma and sign-on, cannot move up much. As some already pointed out, with a degree , the pay is so much higher compare to a diploma holder.
his Recent prelim is 13, not fantastic but can go JC i think if he maintain his result which my SIL/BIL advice him to go JC route. what would be a sensible advice? im not sure should i try to convince him to go JC route or let him stay with Poly route which he has in mind since last year.

if he sign-on with just a diploma, any chance for him to get degree and move up?

Those friends i know in RSAF have Engineering degrees. They do provide sponsorships & scholarships, but results must be excellent. I dunno if it’s feasible to upgrade later.

[blackyv]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2120487\" time=\"1696998796\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2120487 time=1696998796 user_id=53606]
Those friends i know in RSAF have Engineering degrees. They do provide sponsorships & scholarships, but results must be excellent. I dunno if it’s feasible to upgrade later.[/quote]

yeah, heard got scholarship but result and EQ must be good hor...

[lee_yl]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/junior-college-or-polytechnic-how-to-guide-your-child-to-pick-the-right-path


There was a ST article a few days ago on whether to pick JC or Poly.

It was reported that for 2023 cohort, 43% of the Poly students were actually eligible to pick JC

However, about one in three fresh polytechnic graduates (33%) goes on to university, while around four in five A-level graduates (80%) do so.

I am not sure how best to interpret these statistics. I have this impression that instead of going to a lower tier JC, one may have a higher chance to enter Uni via the Poly route. But the numbers don’t seem to tell me so now because out of the 43% (who were eligible for JC but picked Poly instead), only 33% of the Poly students managed to move on to Uni.
This 33% should also include a good number of kids who didn’t do so well for O levels (not eligible for JCs) but did well in Poly to get into university.

[MrsKiasu]

Recently I heard 3 cases from Poly to UK and Australia. That could be one of the reasons?

[sharonkhoo]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2126666\" time=\"1704792021\" user_id=\"17023:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/junior-college-or-polytechnic-how-to-guide-your-child-to-pick-the-right-path

There was a ST article a few days ago on whether to pick JC or Poly.

It was reported that for 2023 cohort, 43% of the Poly students were actually eligible to pick JC

However, about one in three fresh polytechnic graduates (33%) goes on to university, while around four in five A-level graduates (80%) do so.

I am not sure how best to interpret these statistics. I have this impression that instead of going to a lower tier JC, one may have a higher chance to enter Uni via the Poly route. But the numbers don’t seem to tell me so now because out of the 43% (who were eligible for JC but picked Poly instead), only 33% of the Poly students managed to move on to Uni.
This 33% should also include a good number of kids who didn’t do so well for O levels (not eligible for JCs) but did well in Poly to get into university.

Possibly that a large proportion of the 43% eligible for JC were from the group that wouldn't have made it to university even if they were in JC? I think the main thing parents have to remember is that it is the student's ability that has a greater impact on whether he gets to university or not, not whether he was in a good JC, lower tier JC or poly. Some students may have peaked at O levels and qualified for JC but didn't do that well thereafter, while others didn't qualify for JC but continued to improve in poly.

[starlight1968sg]

My view is let the child decide bec at this age, he should take charge of his learning journey and life.

[sharonkhoo]

starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2126679\" time=\"1704794838\" user_id=\"14025:

My view is let the child decide bec at this age, he should take charge of his learning journey and life.

It really depends on the child's maturity. Not all are able to take charge at this age - some develop slower.

[doodbug]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2126666\" time=\"1704792021\" user_id=\"17023:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/junior-college-or-polytechnic-how-to-guide-your-child-to-pick-the-right-path

There was a ST article a few days ago on whether to pick JC or Poly.

It was reported that for 2023 cohort, 43% of the Poly students were actually eligible to pick JC

However, about one in three fresh polytechnic graduates (33%) goes on to university, while around four in five A-level graduates (80%) do so.

I am not sure how best to interpret these statistics. I have this impression that instead of going to a lower tier JC, one may have a higher chance to enter Uni via the Poly route. But the numbers don’t seem to tell me so now because out of the 43% (who were eligible for JC but picked Poly instead), only 33% of the Poly students managed to move on to Uni.
This 33% should also include a good number of kids who didn’t do so well for O levels (not eligible for JCs) but did well in Poly to get into university.

A significant proportion of fresh poly grads (which is what the stats refer to), opt to work after getting their diploma, instead of going straight to uni, even if they could go to uni.

Secondly, a significant proportion of poly grads will finish their degrees overseas especially if there are tie-ups with universities that allow them to graduate in a year or two. For example, optometry diploma holders tend to complete their degrees overseas in a short time, than switch to say a 4 year Life Science degree course at NUS.

[zac's mum]

Does it mean that the stats measure only local unis? That is not very accurate then, if we want to trace the true percentage of poly grads who (including eventually somewhere down the road) proceed to get a university degree (local or otherwise). I’m sure the polys survey their alumni?