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    JC or Poly?

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • lee_ylL Offline
      lee_yl
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      Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2126691\" time=\"1704808701\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2126691 time=1704808701 user_id=195250]
      I don't know what happened to the new generation, at the age of 17, still not able to take charge of his or her own learning and future life. For my generation, many of my classmates had already came out to work as full time and financially support their young brothers and sisters. Is it the kids problem or parents problem? Nowadays lot of ‘’妈宝‘’, the parents control everything and the kids no need to think, the parents will arrange everything for them. :drool:[/quote]
      For the older generation, many had no choice but to come out early to work to support the family. Plus for many of them, I supposed their parents not highly educated.

      You find there are many, many “宝妈” in the younger generation, but these “宝妈”的妈妈 must have come from your so called “older generation” who had to make own decisions at 17yo. Maybe many had wished they had someone older and wiser to guide them so that they could have 少走弯路.

      Spend time and effort to guide own child is a given, who is so free to guide neighbor’s child?

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      • SG_KP1S Offline
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        zac's mum\" post_id=\"2126735\" time=\"1704852735\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2126735 time=1704852735 user_id=53606]
        The number of polys is still the same though. Did they increase their intake/capacity in recent years?[/quote]
        See PDF pages 55 and 61. The primary cohort peaked at about 50,000 around year 2000, and has since decreased to about 40,000 (+/-). This decline subsequently rolled forward to/through the JCs and Polys.

        https://www.moe.gov.sg/-/media/files/about-us/education-statistics-digest-2023.pdf

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        • MyPillowM Offline
          MyPillow
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          lee_yl\" post_id=\"2126736\" time=\"1704853265\" user_id=\"17023:

          For the older generation, many had no choice but to come out early to work to support the family. Plus for many of them, I supposed their parents not highly educated.

          You find there are many, many “宝妈” in the younger generation, but these “宝妈”的妈妈 must have come from your so called “older generation” who had to make own decisions at 17yo. Maybe many had wished they had someone older and wiser to guide them so that they could have 少走弯路.

          Spend time and effort to guide own child is a given, who is so free to guide neighbor’s child?
          agree too
          none of my generation peers come out n work at 17/18 yrs old too. except those who are abit \" rebellious\" coz they dun wish to continue study & wana have fun but the last i heard they headed to polytechnic maybe after working for a yr for experiences. my sil, older colleagues who is near 60, her time she came out to work at 17 then do private dip, degree etc.
          if parents have knowledge and capacity to guide or handhold , why not ? ( provided the teen is willing to listen too) 17 / 18 are still \"young\" to make education decision... may affect whole life career de ..
          my parents were not able to guide me as they do not have the knowledge, i ws left on my own to make important decision, & i think i din make a wise choice ... nobody can help much last time.

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          • FunzF Offline
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            In the past, information was not that easily available. If our parents did not have that opportunity to walk that path, whether poly, local u or overseas u, they also likely will not know where to find more info. Even our teachers at that time have limited info. Now in school you have career counsellors, during my time no such thing. We only know, after pr sch go sec sch, after sec sch go poly/jc/pre-u or work, if made it into poly/jc/pre-u, then after that go uni or go work.


            I was one of those ‘rebellious’ ones who chose not to go to uni and started work at 17/18yrs old. But I continued my education part time. At times I do wish I made a different choice and had the chance to experience campus life but ultimately no regrets as I gained working experience while my friends were experiencing uni life, that put me in a slightly better position when pitched against fresh grads seeking that same position.

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            • FunzF Offline
              Funz
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              As for JC or Poly. Personally, I think it also depends on the child’s learning style. DD went poly and did well there. I think she would have been miserable in JC. Likewise for my friend’s son. In sec sch he was struggling and it affected his mental health so much so that he needed counselling. He was withdrawn and can see that he was insecure. Now that he is in poly, can see a different person, more confident and engaging. In sec sch he was almost failing, now in poly he made it into the dean’s/director’s list. If he had gone to JC, I think he will break down mentally.

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              • 00skyblue000 Offline
                00skyblue00
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                If child has found their career path, wish to choose Poly, is alright. But if child is still blur but can study alright, will have to proceed to A level.

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                • FunzF Offline
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                  I think these days for poly, there is no need to really know exactly what you want to study as you can choose general course for the 1st year. Most by O levels will know roughly what they prefer or can do well in, Math/science related or humanities/languages. If science related whether bio/chem or physics they can then choose general bio/chem related course or engineering related course in poly and only in 2nd year then they choose the exact course they want.

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                  • phtthpP Offline
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                    Be careful, if u are going Polytechnic.


                    A friend’s son, at aged 16, after collected his O level results, still not sure what career he wants.

                    But
                    because many of his fellow ex Sec 4 classmates / school mates said that IT and AI are the " in thing, now " for his current Youth generation, so he signed up and doing Diploma in IT cum AI (Artificial Intelligence) now, in a Poly.

                    He just started his Diploma first year, in April 2023, last year.

                    More than half a year later, he regreted, realised that he should not have come to a Poly at all.
                    Now, he told his parents that he want to go back to purse A-level Junior College, instead.

                    Want to highlight this.

                    See, the thing is, at age 16, he still does not know what he wants, for his career. This is common, because many other Youth, from his generation, are also like him. From young, many parents tell their children : study hard, one day, u will go to uni …

                    And precisely because he doesn’t know what he want, so he asked people around, attempt to seek advice, "what is the trend or the in-thing, now ? "
                    And people around him told him, Is

                    Information Technology &
                    Artificial Intelligence.

                    So, based on what info he had gathered, he enrolled into a Polytechnic, gotten what he want. But now, 3 more months from today (dated 10 Jan), will be end of his first year or Year 1 inside the Poly, he regretted entering Poly, wished he can turn back the clock backwards, to go back to an A level Junior College, instead.

                    So, learn a lesson, from my friend’s son, born in year 2006, if u are heading to Poly. Especially for the next batch of students born in year 2007, going to collect your O level results tomorrow

                    2 pm

                    Thursday (11 January, 2024(

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                    • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                      I think I just need a seat (any course) as a bridge. Coz difficult to go anywhere with just O, right?

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                      • chenlaoshiC Offline
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                        Came across this article from CNA yesterday: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/singapore-o-level-results-level-subject-passion-career-4027201


                        An excerpt:[quote]JOBS AREN’T ALWAYS RELATED TO FIELD OF STUDY
                        In 2017, experts convened by the Institute for the Future think tank predicted that 85 per cent of the jobs in 2030 hadn’t yet been invented. Chances are that’s about when an O-Level student today will be entering the job market.

                        Although we think that the forecast is exaggerated, it does make the valid point that many jobs will be disrupted by technology. Therefore, it might seem that the choice of A-Level subjects would become less important. But we think not.

                        We examined data from the National University of Singapore (NUS) for students who entered in the year 2013. Six months after graduation in 2017, 75 per cent reported being employed in jobs either related or partially related to their university studies. However, a sizeable minority (25 per cent) were in jobs unrelated to their university studies.

                        This suggests that although university programmes (and by extension, the A-Levels) do influence career pathways, they are not completely deterministic. People seem to have some degree of flexibility in pursuing jobs, even those which are unrelated to what they have studied.

                        One likely reason is that university education imparts soft skills like critical thinking, creativity and communication, which are valued across a wide range of different occupations and industries. Adaptability and the willingness to continually learn new skills are likely to take on expanded importance in the years ahead.

                        Another likely reason is that graduates of technical programmes can transition to fields such as data science, software engineering and finance. However, it would be relatively more difficult for graduates of humanities and most social science programmes (economics being the obvious exception) to make the same switch.


                        So, it is still important that students (and their parents) consider their options with care.[/quote]

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