* Nanyang JC (NYJC)

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NUS is ranked ahead of all Ivy League Uni except Harvard (even ahead of Yale and Princeton), and almost all students in local U would have at least 1 semester with a foreign university. Do we still need to look so high up to overseas scholarships like before? It’s still has it’s value add, but it is still worth “an arm or leg”, like before?



https://www.topuniversities.com/world-university-rankings?page=0&tab=indicators

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NUS is ranked ahead of all Ivy League Uni except Harvard (even ahead of Yale and Princeton), and almost all students in local U would have at least 1 semester with a foreign university. Do we still need to look so high up to overseas scholarships like before? It’s still has it’s value add, but it is still worth “an arm or leg”, like before?

I know I may get flamed for saying this.

By rankings, nobody can deny that NUS and NTU are doing very well. It is the best value for your buck if you are self-paying, from a financial ROI point of view.

But university experience and learning goes beyond rankings. The top universities overseas are a highly selective cohort (Singapore's universities take in the top say, 20-30% of the cohort, many top universities take in the top 2% or some very selective number of their local cohorts). Our local AUs' student population at the undergraduate level is also not that diverse. My point is that students go overseas for a variety of reasons and it's not just rankings. To experience and learn from a different system, to build resilience, to gain access to overseas working opportunities, to gain confidence from a more independent life, and if you read Reddit - some kids just want to get away from Singapore and their parents.

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I think there is a difference between being offered scholarships and one decides to reject vs one who needs a scholarship (to go overseas) to ease the burden of the family but cannot get.

I think it’s important or else this new P will not be bothered to set up one new department to help the students with their scholarship applications.

Wow is there any school which has ECG departments that help with scholarship applications?

I've seen some ECG departments providing guidance on overseas uni applications. But apart from that, I'm not sure how much more the well resourced / equipped ECG departments do.

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Wow is there any school which has ECG departments that help with scholarship applications?

I've seen some ECG departments providing guidance on overseas uni applications. But apart from that, I'm not sure how much more the well resourced / equipped ECG departments do.

EJC has its own ECG department that helps students with scholarship applications. I am not familiar but my DD1 said RI one is damn nice. Maybe students more informed of the opportunities?

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(Speaking from experience) I agree with you

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This is RI’s higher education office page, showing types of helps render to students on related matters


https://www.ri.edu.sg/school-life/higher-education-office

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stetan\" post_id=\"2130072\" time=\"1709363947\" user_id=\"3358:

then what are you saying? Are you just making a general statemens that youths avoid scholarship today ? Then that should be applicable across all JCs, not only NYJC and it does not explain NYJC's lacklustre performance in generating scholarship holders, given it's superior COP compared to other JCs

Is it a fact that NYJC is under producing scholarship holders?

Maybe the profile of scholarships that NYJC students tend to veer towards are not those that are terribly visible?

I'm not affiliated to NYJC in any way, but factually, they are producing strong results academically. None of my kids or I would choose NYJC for many other reasons, but we respect NYJC for its steady improvement over the years.

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Is it a fact that NYJC is under producing scholarship holders?

We know for a fact that NYJC has never produced a President scholar in the past 50 years. Let's look at the next 2 most prestigious ones - the SAF scholarship and the SPF scholarship receipents from last year

SAF scholarship - 3 from RI, 1 from HCI, 1 from ACJC, 1 from ACSI
SPF scholarship - 1 from HCI, 1 from TJC

I am too lazy to research and list the other scholarships...i am sure you can easily do that yourself.

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We know for a fact that NYJC has never produced a President scholar in the past 50 years. Let's look at the next 2 most prestigious ones - the SAF scholarship and the SPF scholarship receipents from last year

SAF scholarship - 3 from RI, 1 from HCI, 1 from ACJC, 1 from ACSI
SPF scholarship - 1 from HCI, 1 from TJC

I am too lazy to research and list the other scholarships...i am sure you can easily do that yourself.

All of us have given you our reasons for the praise for NYJC. And we don’t think in term of binary and absolute: either you are excellent or not deserve of praise. It’s not realistic or wise. You can re read our posts: we are praising a part of NYJC’s achievement: academic. And I believe most of us also agree the relatively low number of PSC scholarships too. And some parents here have move on to discuss what have been done to improve the scholarships number of NYJC. It’s the intent behind those words. It mean we agree with the low scholarships number. It not either you are excellent or not deserve of praise altogether.

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All of us have given you our reasons for the praise for NYJC. And we don’t think in term of binary and absolute: either you are excellent or not deserve of praise. It’s not realistic or wise. You can re read our posts: we are praising a part of NYJC’s achievement: academic. And I believe most of us also agree the relatively low number of PSC scholarships too. And some parents here have move on to discuss what have been done to improve the scholarships number of NYJC. It’s the intent behind those words. It mean we agree with the low scholarships number. It not either you are excellent or not deserve of praise altogether.

As i said, i just want to point out the danger of correlating a culture of mugging to excellence ,which real word data in terms of scholarship performance says otherwise.