* Nanyang JC (NYJC)

[stetan]

niseko00\" post_id=\"2130091\" time=\"1709378600\" user_id=\"200430:

It does not mean that one needs to be a President Scholar in order to do well in their career. Even if for next 50 years, there is no president scholar from NYJC, so be it. The college will still be popular among the O-level students as long as it maintains its standard and beautiful culture, 校风. If the students are keen in such prestigious scholarship, they would have chosen RI. Many students in NYJC are well-qualified for RI too but they have their reasons for choosing NY instead. No right or wrong as long as they are happy.

I find it strange that every year, there are parents who just cannot sleep well when NYJC produced fantastic A-level results.

You are reading too much into what I write. I am not saying that one need to be a President scholar to do well in life. I am just highlighting the fact that a culture of mugging does not mean it leads to excellence.

You yourself have said that NYJC has fantastic A level results, then why is the dismay performance in scholarship attainment? This is what I am alluding to. Doesn't anybody here feel the that its an anomaly?

[stetan]

doodbug\" post_id=\"2130102\" time=\"1709391235\" user_id=\"13281:

NYJC's COP has dropped to lower than NJC/VJC/EJC/TJC in recent years, so their intake would be stronger than the JAE intake at other JCs. So I guess it is also not too surprising that for the A levels, NYJC pulls off slightly better results than the rest?

Yet the scholarship achievement rate is still lower than the other JCs ? Strange, isn't it?

[stetan]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2130107\" time=\"1709427624\" user_id=\"17023:

Let me make a guess.

1). Firstly, I would think some parents / students believe a non-IP JC environment, caring teachers, etc. suit them better. In a non-IPJC, all will start at the same starting point.

2). A group of them found out that Arts students can take PCME/BCME. Friend’s JAE daughter applied to an IPJC wanting to do Science but the school only allowed her to do Arts because she couldn’t meet COP for Sc stream. In the end, she gave up this IPJC.

I would say the proximity of the Lorong Chuan MRT also. You can just do a simple comparison of the COP before MRT and the COP after MRT......

The same with VJC now, with the new MRT, the COP for VJC have also gone down this year

[bbbay]

doodbug\" post_id=\"2130102\" time=\"1709391235\" user_id=\"13281:

NYJC's COP has dropped to lower than NJC/VJC/EJC/TJC in recent years, so their intake would be stronger than the JAE intake at other JCs. So I guess it is also not too surprising that for the A levels, NYJC pulls off slightly better results than the rest?

This is like a coffee shop discussion. It is coarse, more
like a back of evenlope calculation. Nothing rigorous about it.


I and another parent has discussed over pm. NYJC is 100 % JAE. And say EJC is 60% IP and 40% JAE.

The assumption is (this is in general, exclude exceptions which is minority)
- IP is top 10% according to PSLE. And majority will choose IP.
- those that proceed to JAE will then be outside 10%, from 11 % onwards.
- PSLE is deterministic of future academic performance

For EJC, after considering the weightage combination of 60% IP (top 10%) and 40 % JAE (from 11 %), the “ nett standard” should be still higher than NYJC’s 100% JAE (from 11%). So NYJC intake is stronger than other EJC is not true? And NYJC is consistently doing better than EJC in A level is unexpected?

[lee_yl]

How much better is “better”? By a lot?

One JC’s median 85 while the other is median 86. Difference of 1 point.

If you ask me, I would say that many IP students’ exam techniques are rusty compared to the O level kids especially the top muggers. Exam techniques rusty not correlated to IP students’ intelligence level. After going through the 6yrs of IP training, I feel that my kids can present well and are articulate.

Honestly I don’t like how the “coffeeshop discussion” is going. I have tons of burning questions :skeptical: but I refrain from asking because I am afraid of hurting some JAE kids when the discussions get too heated and get out of control.

We should just rejoice in the kids’ achievements, regardless of which JC they are from.

[stetan]

bbbay\" post_id=\"2130125\" time=\"1709436684\" user_id=\"175278:

This is like a coffee shop discussion. It is coarse, more
like a back of evenlope calculation. Nothing rigorous about it.


I and another parent has discussed over pm. NYJC is 100 % JAE. And say EJC is 60% IP and 40% JAE.

The assumption is (this is in general, exclude exceptions which is minority)
- IP is top 10% according to PSLE. And majority will choose IP.
- those that proceed to JAE will then be outside 10%, from 11 % onwards.
- PSLE is deterministic of future academic performance

For EJC, after considering the weightage combination of 60% IP (top 10%) and 40 % JAE (from 11 %), the “ nett standard” should be still higher than NYJC’s 100% JAE (from 11%). So NYJC intake is stronger than other EJC is not true? And NYJC is consistently doing better than EJC in A level is unexpected?

Lets take a step back. In EJC 3rd year of existence, it produced 9 PSC scholars that year. How many did NYJC has?

[niseko00]

stetan\" post_id=\"2130119\" time=\"1709434885\" user_id=\"3358:

You are reading too much into what I write. I am not saying that one need to be a President scholar to do well in life. I am just highlighting the fact that a culture of mugging does not mean it leads to excellence.

You yourself have said that NYJC has fantastic A level results, then why is the dismay performance in scholarship attainment? This is what I am alluding to. Doesn't anybody here feel the that its an anomaly?

Noted.

Instead of posting here, please write directly to [email protected] to address the huge concern that you have. I am sure the school will look into it.

[stetan]

niseko00\" post_id=\"2130131\" time=\"1709441869\" user_id=\"200430:

Noted.

Instead of posting here, please address directly to [email protected] to address the huge concern that you have. I am sure the school will look into it.

I am posting here because there are many here that are celebrating a culture of mugging as a sign of excellence.

I have no intention of writing to NYJC as i have no vested interest. Perhaps parents who have kids in NYJC should write in instead?

[niseko00]

IllumiNYte 2024


J2 - Wed 6 Mar
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Have fun. :rahrah:

[bbbay]

This is on TJC class of 2021 A level result (1 parent share with me sometimes back)


https://www.temasekjc.moe.edu.sg/highlights/archive/stories/class-of-2021-hwee-keng-sai-n-yock-yan/


1 out of 4 achieved perfect score of 90 UAS. This is HCI’s 23 standard and RI’s 22 standard. Some part of TJC may be as good as our top JCs.

There are always something schools can learn from each other. No school can claim to be perfect in all departments.

it’s a common acknowledgment that IP students are in general, relatively better academically than JAE students. I believe JAE students have no problem accepting that. Relative would mean among them within Spore system. But as a whole all schools’ standard are high to the world.

NYJC achieves consistently better A level results (an academic department matter) with JAE students is something worth studying for any schools. On the other hand NYJC’s scholarship department is relatively under performing compare other schools. I believe this is acknowledged by many too. And NYJC is doing something about it.

For me, all the comparisons we discuss openly are on 1 part of the school. They do not represent the entire school’s achievements. The comparisons are for all schools’ improvements. Not to put any party down. Even good schools can pick up a thing or 2 , to fine tune their already good system.

Discussion on improvements is broken down in steps. And one department at a time and when learning opportunity arise. It could give a wrong expression of fixation only on 1 part of the school as representing entire school’s achievements.