* Nanyang JC (NYJC)
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NYJC’s COP has dropped to lower than NJC/VJC/EJC/TJC in recent years, so their intake would be stronger than the JAE intake at other JCs. So I guess it is also not too surprising that for the A levels, NYJC pulls off slightly better results than the rest?
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The qn is, why are many jae students with better results, choosing nyjc in recent years instead of ri, hci, ejc, vjc, njc. What do they know that we do not?
I know nyjc go to schs to give promo talk. -
00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2130106\" time=\"1709422668\" user_id=\"143605:
Let me make a guess.
The qn is, why are many jae students with better results, choosing nyjc in recent years instead of ri, hci, ejc, vjc, njc. What do they know that we do not?
I know nyjc go to schs to give promo talk.
1). Firstly, I would think some parents / students believe a non-IP JC environment, caring teachers, etc. suit them better. In a non-IPJC, all will start at the same starting point.
2). A group of them found out that Arts students can take PCME/BCME. Friend’s JAE daughter applied to an IPJC wanting to do Science but the school only allowed her to do Arts because she couldn’t meet COP for Sc stream. In the end, she gave up this IPJC. -
I think large % of JAE students are still choosing JC based on the highest ranking school their cop allow them to? And maybe the distance play a part too. I think many students with nett 4 , pick RI/HCI as 1st/2nd choice but got ballot out and ended up in NYJC. It’s not that they pick NYJC as 1st choice. There will be exception but i think majority still think this way. My neighbour nett 5 result, pick NYJC as 1 choice and got into it, and know nothing about NYJC before hand.
NYJC and Chung Cheng high main /yishun are under the same school committee. I read the committee once wanted to change the name from Nangyang JC, to Chung Cheng JC. But NYJC alum objected it. It shows how closely related NYJC and CCHM/Y are. I want to share my impression of CCHM. I think from there it can give some glimpse into NYJC ethos and how it may attract some group of students.
My children PSLE results allow them to pick IP schools but at that time we wanted them to look beyond grades too. Visit to CCHM open house impressed us and we enrolled our children into it. We felt it matched our ethos. The things that impressed us were things the pricinpal at that time said. I recalled there were no talk on academic matter at all. The talk mostly revolve around character building (我们中正人 不怕吃苦); suggestion to parent let the child take public transport to school instead of ferrying them: 现再不开始学独立，难道等到上大学后才学吗？. Or his telling of parents the school compound will flood sometimes but with the Chung Cheng spirit, students will learn how to deal with it. If any of these are not acceptable to parents , he candidly ask the parents not to enroll their children into the school.
Another anecdote is about a CCHM alum (he is the chief editor of local Chinese newspaper if I recall correctly. his dad and uncle are also Chung Cheng alum), in his own words, he describes CCHM ethos as 中庸之道. I googled it and translation is “mean doctrine”- “all activities and thoughts one had to adhere to moderation”.
These may be unique NYJC characteristics , and may appeal to people who share the same outlook.
the new NYJC principal was principal of Chung Cheng high main, before his transferred to HCI. So he knows NYJC culture well. I believe he is in a good position to preserve what is desirable of NYJC and also tune what can be better done, after his tenure in HCI -
niseko00\" post_id=\"2130091\" time=\"1709378600\" user_id=\"200430:
You are reading too much into what I write. I am not saying that one need to be a President scholar to do well in life. I am just highlighting the fact that a culture of mugging does not mean it leads to excellence.
It does not mean that one needs to be a President Scholar in order to do well in their career. Even if for next 50 years, there is no president scholar from NYJC, so be it. The college will still be popular among the O-level students as long as it maintains its standard and beautiful culture, 校风. If the students are keen in such prestigious scholarship, they would have chosen RI. Many students in NYJC are well-qualified for RI too but they have their reasons for choosing NY instead. No right or wrong as long as they are happy.
I find it strange that every year, there are parents who just cannot sleep well when NYJC produced fantastic A-level results.
You yourself have said that NYJC has fantastic A level results, then why is the dismay performance in scholarship attainment? This is what I am alluding to. Doesn't anybody here feel the that its an anomaly? -
doodbug\" post_id=\"2130102\" time=\"1709391235\" user_id=\"13281:
Yet the scholarship achievement rate is still lower than the other JCs ? Strange, isn't it?
NYJC's COP has dropped to lower than NJC/VJC/EJC/TJC in recent years, so their intake would be stronger than the JAE intake at other JCs. So I guess it is also not too surprising that for the A levels, NYJC pulls off slightly better results than the rest? -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2130107\" time=\"1709427624\" user_id=\"17023:
I would say the proximity of the Lorong Chuan MRT also. You can just do a simple comparison of the COP before MRT and the COP after MRT......
Let me make a guess.
1). Firstly, I would think some parents / students believe a non-IP JC environment, caring teachers, etc. suit them better. In a non-IPJC, all will start at the same starting point.
2). A group of them found out that Arts students can take PCME/BCME. Friend’s JAE daughter applied to an IPJC wanting to do Science but the school only allowed her to do Arts because she couldn’t meet COP for Sc stream. In the end, she gave up this IPJC.
The same with VJC now, with the new MRT, the COP for VJC have also gone down this year -
doodbug\" post_id=\"2130102\" time=\"1709391235\" user_id=\"13281:
This is like a coffee shop discussion. It is coarse, more
NYJC's COP has dropped to lower than NJC/VJC/EJC/TJC in recent years, so their intake would be stronger than the JAE intake at other JCs. So I guess it is also not too surprising that for the A levels, NYJC pulls off slightly better results than the rest?
like a back of evenlope calculation. Nothing rigorous about it.
I and another parent has discussed over pm. NYJC is 100 % JAE. And say EJC is 60% IP and 40% JAE.
The assumption is (this is in general, exclude exceptions which is minority)
- IP is top 10% according to PSLE. And majority will choose IP.
- those that proceed to JAE will then be outside 10%, from 11 % onwards.
- PSLE is deterministic of future academic performance
For EJC, after considering the weightage combination of 60% IP (top 10%) and 40 % JAE (from 11 %), the “ nett standard” should be still higher than NYJC’s 100% JAE (from 11%). So NYJC intake is stronger than other EJC is not true? And NYJC is consistently doing better than EJC in A level is unexpected? -
How much better is “better”? By a lot?
One JC’s median 85 while the other is median 86. Difference of 1 point.
If you ask me, I would say that many IP students’ exam techniques are rusty compared to the O level kids especially the top muggers. Exam techniques rusty not correlated to IP students’ intelligence level. After going through the 6yrs of IP training, I feel that my kids can present well and are articulate.
Honestly I don’t like how the “coffeeshop discussion” is going. I have tons of burning questions :skeptical: but I refrain from asking because I am afraid of hurting some JAE kids when the discussions get too heated and get out of control.
We should just rejoice in the kids’ achievements, regardless of which JC they are from. -
bbbay\" post_id=\"2130125\" time=\"1709436684\" user_id=\"175278:
This is like a coffee shop discussion. It is coarse, more
like a back of evenlope calculation. Nothing rigorous about it.
I and another parent has discussed over pm. NYJC is 100 % JAE. And say EJC is 60% IP and 40% JAE.
The assumption is (this is in general, exclude exceptions which is minority)
- IP is top 10% according to PSLE. And majority will choose IP.
- those that proceed to JAE will then be outside 10%, from 11 % onwards.
- PSLE is deterministic of future academic performance
For EJC, after considering the weightage combination of 60% IP (top 10%) and 40 % JAE (from 11 %), the “ nett standard” should be still higher than NYJC’s 100% JAE (from 11%). So NYJC intake is stronger than other EJC is not true? And NYJC is consistently doing better than EJC in A level is unexpected?
Lets take a step back. In EJC 3rd year of existence, it produced 9 PSC scholars that year. How many did NYJC has?
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