What happens to students that don't do well in IP schools?
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xxjustakidxx:
They need a B4 in HCI, a C6 in RI (D: ). MSG above 4.0 would get you into a Q class (o level class), and by attaining good results at then end of the sec 3 year, you can get back into IP (I can't define, not sure). For the rest i'm not sure.[/quote]Thanks!
Can you share whether the 2 cases of taking up 'O'Level is self volunteery? of what MSG at end of yr 2? and under what circumstances they went back to IP? I was told the students there are given options even to choose taking 'O'level if they want to switch to poly track or switching to another JC which they don't have to do CL if they get a past in 'o' level HCL, unlike they need at least a B3 in HCI to skip CL at JC yrs... kindly confirm.MdmKS:
[quote=\"xxjustakidxx\"]
But take note. If you get into this class in sec 3, you still have a chance of going back to IP. I know of 2 cases.
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There was one RGS who took ‘O’ level - Quah Ting Wen. But she took it so that she enrol in US uni.
In papers, it mentioned that some IP students dropped out and switch to poly. -
father_of_3:
I believe most of them are doing very well and instead chose to go poly after knowing what their interests lie in.There was one RGS who took 'O' level - Quah Ting Wen. But she took it so that she enrol in US uni.
In papers, it mentioned that some IP students dropped out and switch to poly. -
CoffeeCat:
That is why I am against going to specialty schools in secondary school, like SOTA and NUSH. At 12, a child may think that he loves Math and Science or that she could spend the rest of her life playing music or dancing and would want to pursue a career in those fields. But as they grow older, espcially during their teenage years, their interests may change and their studies have already pointed them in one direction. A broad-based education is still best at secondary school.
I believe most of them are doing very well and instead chose to go poly after knowing what their interests lie in.father_of_3:
There was one RGS who took 'O' level - Quah Ting Wen. But she took it so that she enrol in US uni.
In papers, it mentioned that some IP students dropped out and switch to poly. -
jtoh:
That is why I am against going to specialty schools in secondary school, like SOTA and NUSH. At 12, a child may think that he loves Math and Science or that she could spend the rest of her life playing music or dancing and would want to pursue a career in those fields. But as they grow older, espcially during their teenage years, their interests may change and their studies have already pointed them in one direction. A broad-based education is still best at secondary school.[/quote]I hate humanities so much that i want to go there NOW
I believe most of them are doing very well and instead chose to go poly after knowing what their interests lie in.CoffeeCat:
[quote=\"father_of_3\"]There was one RGS who took 'O' level - Quah Ting Wen. But she took it so that she enrol in US uni.
In papers, it mentioned that some IP students dropped out and switch to poly. -
jtoh:
That is why I am against going to specialty schools in secondary school, like SOTA and NUSH. At 12, a child may think that he loves Math and Science or that she could spend the rest of her life playing music or dancing and would want to pursue a career in those fields. But as they grow older, espcially during their teenage years, their interests may change and their studies have already pointed them in one direction. A broad-based education is still best at secondary school.[/quote]Agree. I know of a student who went to NUSH in Sec 1 and now in Year 6 but discovered in year 3 that he was not keen on maths and science anymore and is so unhappy! You are right too young at 12 to know what you really want to do - at least for most kids!
I believe most of them are doing very well and instead chose to go poly after knowing what their interests lie in.CoffeeCat:
[quote=\"father_of_3\"]There was one RGS who took 'O' level - Quah Ting Wen. But she took it so that she enrol in US uni.
In papers, it mentioned that some IP students dropped out and switch to poly. -
24by7mum:
Agree. I know of a student who went to NUSH in Sec 1 and now in Year 6 but discovered in year 3 that he was not keen on maths and science anymore and is so unhappy! You are right too young at 12 to know what you really want to do - at least for most kids![/quote]I've heard of a couple of students like that at NUSH too. One chose to leave NUSH in the end. At least for NUSH you can transfer to other schools. For SOTA students, they run the risk of repeating the year if they transfer to mainstream schools because their syllabus is so different.
That is why I am against going to specialty schools in secondary school, like SOTA and NUSH. At 12, a child may think that he loves Math and Science or that she could spend the rest of her life playing music or dancing and would want to pursue a career in those fields. But as they grow older, espcially during their teenage years, their interests may change and their studies have already pointed them in one direction. A broad-based education is still best at secondary school.jtoh:
[quote=\"CoffeeCat\"]
I believe most of them are doing very well and instead chose to go poly after knowing what their interests lie in. -
jtoh:
I've heard of a couple of students like that at NUSH too. One chose to leave NUSH in the end. At least for NUSH you can transfer to other schools. For SOTA students, they run the risk of repeating the year if they transfer to mainstream schools because their syllabus is so different.[/quote]Agree. Most kids around the world would not need to make such decisions at 12 years of age. It is a shame!
Agree. I know of a student who went to NUSH in Sec 1 and now in Year 6 but discovered in year 3 that he was not keen on maths and science anymore and is so unhappy! You are right too young at 12 to know what you really want to do - at least for most kids!24by7mum:
[quote=\"jtoh\"]
That is why I am against going to specialty schools in secondary school, like SOTA and NUSH. At 12, a child may think that he loves Math and Science or that she could spend the rest of her life playing music or dancing and would want to pursue a career in those fields. But as they grow older, espcially during their teenage years, their interests may change and their studies have already pointed them in one direction. A broad-based education is still best at secondary school. -
jtoh:
That is why I am against going to specialty schools in secondary school, like SOTA and NUSH. At 12, a child may think that he loves Math and Science or that she could spend the rest of her life playing music or dancing and would want to pursue a career in those fields. But as they grow older, espcially during their teenage years, their interests may change and their
I believe most of them are doing very well and instead chose to go poly after knowing what their interests lie in.CoffeeCat:
[quote=\"father_of_3\"]There was one RGS who took 'O' level - Quah Ting Wen. But she took it so that she enrol in US uni.
In papers, it mentioned that some IP students dropped out and switch to poly.
studies have already pointed them in one direction. A broad-based education is still best at secondary school.[/quote]
I beg to differ, don't know about NUSH, but specialized independent schools are exactly the place that provides broad based education. Many parents think that SOTA is a vocational institution but it's actually a place that provides a more holistic education. They do what all the other mainstream children do, learning the whole works and subjects but instead of CCA, they
just replaced that with focus on an art form.
At the end of the day, only a small percentage of SOTA kids will become professional dancer, musician or artist. Some will be like any mainstreamers, become teachers, doctors, engineers, etc.. However, these kids from SOTA will be different, other than having only the off-the-mill education, they have developed much creativity and many other thinking skills which the mainstreamers don't get a chance to develop.
Hence, a child at the age of 12, I agree, may not know for sure that she wants to be a dancer but at that present time, that's what she thinks she wants to slog for because she's so passionate about it. That doesn't mean her fate is sealed. She's still on the university track and she can turn anytime she wants.
Our government has realized that we cannot to have our education continue to be like a factory producing adults with the same old system for donkey years. We need people who can think out of the box. If our kids
only know how to do ten-years series and pass years papers and be exam
smart, how to survive in the new world?
I think parents with talented kids should let their kids try the specialized
independent schools. It's very very hard to get in by the way and these kids are a privileged lot with a lot of support by the government. Finding out ones talent and passion is also an education itself. The kids who go to such school are very special, they make a conscious choice and sacrifices to be where they want to be but I must say, they are a happy lot. That's why places like the Sports School and SOTA are so vibrant. As parents we
should help our children in self-discovery and not make them live our fears.
By the way, I don't have any kids in SOTA. I've attended their symposium, I've a kid in the Sports School. I think the 2 schools are doing a great job. Their mission is to help the kids realized their potential in their talent as they study their subjects. Both schools do International Baccalaureate
which is after all a program which the A levels is trying to model after some years ago.
For the Sports School, the kids are moving along as expected, some has commited more years into sports, some have gone poly, some go jC and some already in the local Us. See my point?
The reward is in the journey.... -
Just to add,
making conscious decision and taking the consequences, making mistakes and having to retry is also an education itself.
There’s no shame if a child make a decision and change her mind later. In fact we should be proud that she has the courage to do so.
The best years for self discovery is in their teens. How many adults have a chance to live their dream, if they have one at all…
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