2010 P1 Registration Exercise for 2011 In-Take

[jedamum]

meeyah:

Hmmm..I would not do away with PV but rather I hope MOE will recognise the efforts being a PV in school so maybe phase2B1 for PV phase 2B2 for clans/church/grassroot. Hahahaaa...that's my wish list which may be equal to fat hope.

i hope not.
clans and churches affiliations go back a long way.
grassroots involvement benefits the society as a whole.
PV? it benefits and school only and the PV-parent/child.

[janet88]

Meeyah,

2B1 for PVs, 2B2 for church/clan/grassroots
I think parents are in favour of this new sub-category but NOT MOE.
This will mean further breakdown of vacancies which I think MOE is not in favour of.
Under MOE rules & regulations, Phase 2B is for PV/church/clan/grassroot leader. PV selections are done by the schools. Selection of PV is also done by the schools, including the hours (40 or 80) to serve. Selection criteria is also something we don't know.
Easiest way for MOE is of course to lump all these parents together but rather unfair for PVs who actually take time out to serve the school. Bottom line is, it's getting tough now to be a parent. Agree ?

[sleepy]

When applying for PV (many years ago), I didn't sense any preference SAHMs over FTWMs. However, school expected PVs to commit 1 - 2 hours every week on a weekday afternoon. This may be a stretch for working parents unless their companies are flexible


One tip, it may be useful to attach your BIG BIG certifcates. Majority of PVs I spoke to have degrees, Masters degrees, double Masters, one even with PHD ! Perhaps the principal's selection logic was parents can study, children also can study?

please don't ask me which school

[singmathstutor]

sleepy:

When applying for PV (many years ago), I didn't sense any preference SAHMs over FTWMs. However, school expected PVs to commit 1 - 2 hours every week on a weekday afternoon. This may be a stretch for working parents unless their companies are flexible


One tip, it may be useful to attach your BIG BIG certifcates. Majority of PVs I spoke to have degrees, Masters degrees, double Masters, one even with PHD ! Perhaps the principal's selection logic was parents can study, children also can study?

please don't ask me which school

True, I think \"big big\" certificates play an important part in selection. I also feel that anyone who is in education industry will also be very much preferred, especially if the paymaster is MOE.

[BigDevil]

A big red GOOD LUCK to wish all having balloting today the best of luck!


:xedfingers:

[meeyah]

janet_lee88:

Meeyah,

2B1 for PVs, 2B2 for church/clan/grassroots
I think parents are in favour of this new sub-category but NOT MOE.
This will mean further breakdown of vacancies which I think MOE is not in favour of.
Under MOE rules & regulations, Phase 2B is for PV/church/clan/grassroot leader. PV selections are done by the schools. Selection of PV is also done by the schools, including the hours (40 or 80) to serve. Selection criteria is also something we don't know.
Easiest way for MOE is of course to lump all these parents together but rather unfair for PVs who actually take time out to serve the school. Bottom line is, it's getting tough now to be a parent. Agree ?

I certainly fully agree with you..tough to be a kiasu Singaporean parent. Now I am eager to monitor how the balloting goes. Whether the 2 slips for Singaporeans really upz the chance as compared to PR... If there are many Singaporean parents not selected and more PR parents shortlisted, hahahaa...sure will have some commotions in the news.

[janet88]

Hi meeyah,

2 slips for Singaporeans. If the PR gets in on one slip, (no offence to PRs) , then he/she is really lucky. Anyway, expect to see tis in the newspapers tomorrow. I'm sure our PM is following the news too.

[3Boys]

jedamum:

meeyah:

Hmmm..I would not do away with PV but rather I hope MOE will recognise the efforts being a PV in school so maybe phase2B1 for PV phase 2B2 for clans/church/grassroot. Hahahaaa...that's my wish list which may be equal to fat hope.

i hope not.
clans and churches affiliations go back a long way.
grassroots involvement benefits the society as a whole.
PV? it benefits and school only and the PV-parent/child.

meeyah,
as you see, you can never have one policy that satisfies all parties. Point being, this can hardly be the fault of the gahmen, can it? As long as there are popular schools, there will be competition. As long as there is competition, there will be winners and there will be losers. It is the natural order of things and no amount of policy tweaking by MOE will ever get us away from that. As long as MOE provides the substrate of accessibility to a decent level of education as the base case, it has done its job, everything else is gravy. Expectations for even 'higher' levels of gratification is down to the individual and how much pain he/she is willing to endure to attain it.

[3Boys]

janet_lee88:

Hi meeyah,

2 slips for Singaporeans. If the PR gets in on one slip, (no offence to PRs) , then he/she is really lucky. Anyway, expect to see tis in the newspapers tomorrow. I'm sure our PM is following the news too.

I hope that the Singaporean parents who lose out in ballots to PRs will take it in good grace and not agitate.

[3Boys]

meeyah:

I don't really mean parenting in different countries but more of the education we want our kids to have in Singapore I guess.. Parenting in terms of education thinking of which 'ideal' school to put the child in. Of course parents don't have to worry about the schools in Ethopia cos they have more urgent priority which is to fill up their stomachs but it is really a different environment to discuss...which is why I say it is an orange and apple comparison. Naturally when a country get more developed, standards will be higher and hence expectations are raised as well..Singapore is a small island with limited human resource. Hence in this human rat race, almost all the parents is given the impresession that education is the key to a good future....so many parents start to invest kids to enrichment classes, reading material etc etc..all in the hopes that their kids have good/advanced start in education.

meeyah,
parents in ALL countries, rich and poor, desire for their children to have a good education. I was in Africa recently and had an opportunity to interact with some locals. These are folk hungry for education and willing to bust a gut to get where they need. Their desire is so strong, and some of them are really smart. What is the quality advantage of Singaporeans over these people? It is ZERO..... In fact, my view of Singaporean students (and their parents) is that we are a bunch of spoilt brats, constantly whining and gazing at our navels. Book smart we may be, but lacking in moral fibre and resilience, constantly harping to the gahmen for help. If we don't wake up to reality soon, we will all be overtaken.

The only advantage we have is a education system and general environment that extracts the best from each individual. I.e. MOE, MOH, MCYS, MOF, MHA have constructed an system that enables us to bring up our children in a safe, healthy and economically stable environment, so that we as parents only really need to think hard on a few dimensions for child development.