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[BigDad]

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[BigDad]

verykiasu2010:

seriously, for CL / HCL, there isn't much memorising, if the child has the right understanding of the words and the right attitude towards it. and right attitude start from parents


if before anything the parents are already saying how difficult HCL is, how so much \"memorising\" to do, it will frighten the daylight out of the kids and the kids will just take the easy way out and sing along with the parents .....ya, HCL is very difficult....

my family speaks English, but we NEVER say HCL is tough or difficult. from young they are curious about chinese words and they just grow with it. honestly (God forbid that I should be proud about it) I have not seen my kids memorise any tingxie or whatever....all they did was pay attention in class. I didn't even know when / how often they have the tingxie...or how they scored. The results are ok.

ask yourself : does you child need to memorise those English sayings and figure of speech ? Yes ? If they can do for English, they can do for Chinese. Attitude.

Hi verykiasu2010,

I thought that chinese was all about memorization, because if they cannot recognise the word, they cannot try to make out what it is, not like English where it is easier to guess the meaning. How do your kids do it? Can share? TIA

[Brenda10]

BigDad:

Brenda10:

[quote=\"BigDad\"]Hi Brenda10,


Thanks for your understanding, it is scary when I see primary 2 maths getting more difficult for him..how to help..I know it is easy for those who are good but those who are borderline..it also seems like a lot of the good tuition places focus on good students, are there those that can really help the weak ones? Was your child all along good?

Hi BigDad

Yes. I also very scare of maths especially those fraction and ratio. DD maths for CA1 and SA1 was still ok but I yet to see the CA2 that tested today. Don't know why the maths is so tough nowadays.

Ya Brenda10, its getting tougher, I think I need to get outside help already![/quote]Hi BigDad

DD just get her CA2 result for maths and she scored 44/50. Yet to see the paper to see area that can be improved.

[verykiasu2010]

BigDad:

Hi verykiasu2010,

I thought that chinese was all about memorization, because if they cannot recognise the word, they cannot try to make out what it is, not like English where it is easier to guess the meaning. How do your kids do it? Can share? TIA

you got to start from nursery / K1 to expose the kids to chinese lang at the same time as english lang. chinese lang is not an after thought.

there are quite a number of VCDs on teaching basic chinese characters, how the words are formed...once the kids get to see that it is so interesting, it won't bore them to learn more, no effort needed, and they will remember all the basic stuff and when they go on to more complicated words, they would have already known the words in parts and how to forget ? for eg, the word for surname \"Lim\" is double wood......you need more wood to form a forest, 2 woods and 3 woods form a forest, for the chinese words....森林

one man is big : 一 +人= 大

two man for the sky : 二 + 人 = 天

small on big is sharp : 小 + 大 = 尖


etc etc etc

[Sievnna]

verykiasu2010:

BigDad:

you got to start from nursery / K1 to expose the kids to chinese lang at the same time as english lang. chinese lang is not an after thought.

there are quite a number of VCDs on teaching basic chinese characters, how the words are formed...once the kids get to see that it is so interesting, it won't bore them to learn more, no effort needed, and they will remember all the basic stuff and when they go on to more complicated words, they would have already known the words in parts and how to forget ? for eg, the word for surname \"Lim\" is double wood......you need more wood to form a forest, 2 woods and 3 woods form a forest, for the chinese words....森林

one man is big : 一 +人= 大

two man for the sky : 二 + 人 = 天

small on big is sharp : 小 + 大 = 尖


etc etc etc

Hi verykiasu2010,

I am new here, am very impressed with your way of helping your children. Chinese is always a big headache for my children and I. For words that are more difficult, how do we use this method. Can I know what these Chinese VCDs are, what their titles are and where to purchase them? Thank you.

[verykiasu2010]

Sievnna:

verykiasu2010:

[quote=\"BigDad\"]

you got to start from nursery / K1 to expose the kids to chinese lang at the same time as english lang. chinese lang is not an after thought.

there are quite a number of VCDs on teaching basic chinese characters, how the words are formed...once the kids get to see that it is so interesting, it won't bore them to learn more, no effort needed, and they will remember all the basic stuff and when they go on to more complicated words, they would have already known the words in parts and how to forget ? for eg, the word for surname \"Lim\" is double wood......you need more wood to form a forest, 2 woods and 3 woods form a forest, for the chinese words....森林

one man is big : 一 +人= 大

two man for the sky : 二 + 人 = 天

small on big is sharp : 小 + 大 = 尖


etc etc etc

Hi verykiasu2010,

I am new here, am very impressed with your way of helping your children. Chinese is always a big headache for my children and I. For words that are more difficult, how do we use this method. Can I know what these Chinese VCDs are, what their titles are and where to purchase them? Thank you.

[/quote]those are VCDs for children's learning of basic (Han) chinese words...colourful cartoon presentation with children voices - sure to attract children's attention ...... unfortunately I got them many years ago and they have been thrown away when I last moved house...they don't need that anymore. if i see them again in Popular, I will post it at the Chinese language thread

i just left the kids watch those VCDs while i do my work.....

[phankao]

sook:

phankao:

Why can't a child survive?

I have 2 elder children in 2 different SAP schools who did not take HCL. No problem there. My daughter just finished her O-level CL. She's still not taking HCL. Ds1 is taking HCL now in sec 1. Not his favourite subject though. He's still weak in it.

Hhmm, i am concerned that those \"drop-out\" from HCL will be 2nd class citizen. I called Poi Ching before to check whether HCL is compulsory from P1. The person answered in very incredulous tone \"Must take HCL, if not , no point coming to Poi Ching'

Actually i only meant that my older 2 did not take HCL from p5 onwards. In SAP school, surely need to take HCL from p1. Never heard of any option before. Even the non-Chinese take HCL. Some of them do extremely well too, even though their parents don't know chinese. And they end up continuing to take HCL in p5/p6 and hv good psle scores. Amazing. Put us Chinese to shame. ;(

[sook]

phankao:

sook:

[quote=\"phankao\"]

Why can't a child survive?

I have 2 elder children in 2 different SAP schools who did not take HCL. No problem there. My daughter just finished her O-level CL. She's still not taking HCL. Ds1 is taking HCL now in sec 1. Not his favourite subject though. He's still weak in it.

Hhmm, i am concerned that those \"drop-out\" from HCL will be 2nd class citizen. I called Poi Ching before to check whether HCL is compulsory from P1. The person answered in very incredulous tone \"Must take HCL, if not , no point coming to Poi Ching'

Actually i only meant that my older 2 did not take HCL from p5 onwards. In SAP school, surely need to take HCL from p1. Never heard of any option before. Even the non-Chinese take HCL. Some of them do extremely well too, even though their parents don't know chinese. And they end up continuing to take HCL in p5/p6 and hv good psle scores. Amazing. Put us Chinese to shame. ;([/quote]Thanks Phankao, for enlightening me. It's time for me dig a hole and hide now. :oops:

[phankao]

sook:

phankao:

[quote=\"sook\"]
Hhmm, i am concerned that those \"drop-out\" from HCL will be 2nd class citizen. I called Poi Ching before to check whether HCL is compulsory from P1. The person answered in very incredulous tone \"Must take HCL, if not , no point coming to Poi Ching'

Actually i only meant that my older 2 did not take HCL from p5 onwards. In SAP school, surely need to take HCL from p1. Never heard of any option before. Even the non-Chinese take HCL. Some of them do extremely well too, even though their parents don't know chinese. And they end up continuing to take HCL in p5/p6 and hv good psle scores. Amazing. Put us Chinese to shame. ;(

Thanks Phankao, for enlightening me. It's time for me dig a hole and hide now. :oops:[/quote]My chinese v bad. But that was one reason i put my kids to SAP schools, hoping that the language environment would not at least make them *hate* chinese like how it is in more english-based schools. Like how I (& all my friends) hated chiense when we were in school.

My kids all do better in chinese than me, but can't say they love the language though. :roll:

[sook]

Hi Phankao,

How do you help the kids with their homework / home practice? I guess it’s inevitable to hire a CL tuition teacher…