7 New IP schools

[ApronMama]

jtoh:

Say for eg. MGS gets IP status and SCGS doesn't. If I score 255 and I qualify for both schools, I would choose MGS over SCGS (assuming I do not have loyalty to either.) Even if I am an ex-SCGS girl, I'd seriously consider MGS because there's the IP advantage.

Some may not fancy IP. Just as today you can see T-Scores which qualify for top IP-School appear in non-IP schools, such as CHS, VS, Nan Hua. Some just want to take a reasonably good school near to their home. It is still a personal choice though it could be printed to highlight to students of the avability in the S1 form, like the qualify for HMt and 3d lang, it is still up to the students' choice.

[verykiasu2010]

jtoh:

I'm not sure I agree with you. I understand what you're saying about demand and supply etc, as a whole. But looking at individual schools, these schools should enjoy a higher COP with their IP status as compared to their before IP status. Why? Because there is a higher demand for the school and if number of vacances is unchanged, the COP should increase.

Schools with no IP status will see a fall in their COP because the better students will now all have opted for the IP schools.

Say for eg. MGS gets IP status and SCGS doesn't. If I score 255 and I qualify for both schools, I would choose MGS over SCGS (assuming I do not have loyalty to either.) Even if I am an ex-SCGS girl, I'd seriously consider MGS because there's the IP advantage.

there is only a limited supply of those 250 and above, viz MOE cut it at 10% of each cohort. unless MOE inflat the t-score by setting 250 as the 15% cut off line, or even higher % (high % = lower t-score)

each year only about 40+ thousand sitting for PSLE, going forward some years could be below 40k as some years have only 30+k babies...even plus foreign students...so 10% as it is now will yield only around 4000 students with t-score 250 and above, based on present MOE bell curve for PSLE t-score

18 schools x 450 per intake = 8100....so may be 20%

[Nebbermind]

according to press report, the new IP schools will also have non-IP prog. Maybe they will be more like in ACSI but with a smaller IP intake in yr 1 and the better performers wil get to transfer to IP prog at yr 3 or so.

[Nebbermind]

verykiasu2010:

then become SCBGS ? i think not many boys would want to apply lah ..... swamped by girls

so do the boys gets to wear sleeveless tops too??!! :!:

[verykiasu2010]

Nebbermind:

verykiasu2010:

then become SCBGS ? i think not many boys would want to apply lah ..... swamped by girls

so do the boys gets to wear sleeveless tops too??!! :!:

haha

remember those years when Faithfield MGS became co-ed ? there were some \"uneasiness\" too.....kind of funny thing to see the boys in the colours of the girl school....

so we imagine boys in light blue pants / shorts and light blue sleeveless shirt ......lol

[dunnoleh]

verykiasu2010:

... 18 schools x 450 per intake = 8100....so may be 20%

oh yes, 20%! heard this magic number recently, i'm sure. :lol:

that's what our local unis are given, compared to places like beida/tsinghua, who get the top 0.??%, right?
just a passing thought... :lol:

[jtoh]

verykiasu2010:

jtoh:

I'm not sure I agree with you. I understand what you're saying about demand and supply etc, as a whole. But looking at individual schools, these schools should enjoy a higher COP with their IP status as compared to their before IP status. Why? Because there is a higher demand for the school and if number of vacances is unchanged, the COP should increase.

Schools with no IP status will see a fall in their COP because the better students will now all have opted for the IP schools.

Say for eg. MGS gets IP status and SCGS doesn't. If I score 255 and I qualify for both schools, I would choose MGS over SCGS (assuming I do not have loyalty to either.) Even if I am an ex-SCGS girl, I'd seriously consider MGS because there's the IP advantage.

there is only a limited supply of those 250 and above, viz MOE cut it at 10% of each cohort. unless MOE inflat the t-score by setting 250 as the 15% cut off line, or even higher % (high % = lower t-score)

each year only about 40+ thousand sitting for PSLE, going forward some years could be below 40k as some years have only 30+k babies...even plus foreign students...so 10% as it is now will yield only around 4000 students with t-score 250 and above, based on present MOE bell curve for PSLE t-score

18 schools x 450 per intake = 8100....so may be 20%

My view is that we shouldn't generalize that all the new IP schools will experience a drop in COPs. It really depends on the school and what it's offering. As I mentioned in earlier, top IP schools like RI and HCI will not be impacted by the new IPs because they have established programmes and are able to attract the very best. For the new IPs, if they are able to offer sound programmes which are even better than their existing O level programs, coupled with the attraction of a thru-train, their COPs will definitely go up because there will be demand for such programmes. Assuming schools like SCGS and MGS get IP status, they already command COPs of more than 250. I don't see these falling with an increase in demand for places (ceteris paribas).

As you pointed out, there will be more places available than the 4000 students scoring >250. Students who score <250 and gain entry into an IP school will not gain entry into the traditionally better schools who've always enjoyed COPs of 250. These will then go to the other IP schools who traditionally have not enjoyed COPs of >250. Say St Margarets as a purely hypothetical example.

With regard to falling birth rates etc, yes, in that instance COPs will fall across ALL schools, not just IP schools, new or old.

[verykiasu2010]

dunnoleh:

verykiasu2010:

... 18 schools x 450 per intake = 8100....so may be 20%

oh yes, 20%! heard this magic number recently, i'm sure. :lol:

that's what our local unis are given, compared to places like beida/tsinghua, who get the top 0.??%, right?
just a passing thought... :lol:

haha, if you want beida and tsinghua, you should aim for HCI and top the cohort there and you will be on the way to beida / tsinghua / fudan....all expenses paid and no entrance test needed....aka DSA !

[dunnoleh]

eh… what i mean is this 20% here already bery good liao! me not kidding hor, can see so much resources being pumped into this group. it’ll really do them a lot of good.

[joconde]

somehow, i see the introduction of more IP sch as a move to create more oppty for students weak in MT to enter good sec schools, following the failed attempt to reduce PSLE MT weightage