2010 DSA(Direct School Admission)

[INNOVATE]

wonderm


As outlined in previous postings, HCL is only one subject and the only one taught in chinese. All others are conducted in english.

There is no SAP school here that emphases chinese over english. Hope that sets the record straight once an for all.

[wonderm]

INNOVATE:

wonderm


As outlined in previous postings, HCL is only one subject and the only one taught in chinese. All others are conducted in english.

There is no SAP school here that emphases chinese over english. Hope that sets the record straight once an for all.

Thanks INNOVATE. I know where you are coming from. My elder son is in HCI and I agree with you completely. Just that since somone brought up the number of CL vs Eng periods per week, I am wondering if we know such data from other schools for an objective comparison about time allocated for HCL lessons.

[verykiasu2010]

it does not mean less period means less emphasis on it


from the recent DSA exercise by RI, some went under mother tongue domain, and came out complaining the questions are out of the world

some people said when you go RI, your chinese standard drop, some says their HCL standard is not easy either

anyway, as innovate has said, there is no school emphasises chinese more than english

those who are in doubt should make personal effort to visit those ‘perceived’ chinese schools’ open house and experience first hand

[INNOVATE]

Glad to hear from you. Hope your elder kid is doing well.


Non-SAP schools also have students taking HCL. Generally, the number of hours allocated for the study of chinese is similar whether SAP or non-SAP. It’s just that one studies chinese whereas the other studies HCL within the allocated time frame.

It’s the weaker students given remedial classes in CL or HCL.

[d1s2]

I would like to throw my 2 cents worth into this HCL issue.


From what i hear, most of the RGS girls opt for HCL whether they had taken CL or HCL in primary school (I understand the same in RI) although I dont have the actual statistics. When we were deciding if my daughter should sign up for HCL or CL in sec 1, we were strongly encouraged by other parents at the school to do HCL. The seniors also encouraged the girls to go for HCL, reason being that (sadly) once you pass O levels HCL, you "dont ever need to do chinese in JC again". I have friends who with much apprehension, gave in to their daughters (who had taken CL in primary school) who insisted on taking HCL because almost all of their friends do. One of my daughter’s friend failed every Chinese tests up to Sec 3 and when her parents approached the teacher, they were told that if she fails again in Sec 4, she can opt to take CL instead of HCL.

Since the students ultimately all take the same range of A levels subjects, English is still primarily the main language used. A friend’s daughter struggled with HCL in primary GEP in RGPS but later went on to excel in it when she went to NYGH and my friend believes that the environment allowed her the opportunity to learn and use the language more. That I see as one of the advantages of going to NYGH/HCI.

[d1s2]

verykiasu2010:

it does not mean less period means less emphasis on it


from the recent DSA exercise by RI, some went under mother tongue domain, and came out complaining the questions are out of the world

some people said when you go RI, your chinese standard drop, some says their HCL standard is not easy either

anyway, as innovate has said, there is no school emphasises chinese more than english

those who are in doubt should make personal effort to visit those 'perceived' chinese schools' open house and experience first hand

Yes, HCL in RI/RGS is not easy either. My son's primary school chinese teacher said that their chinese standard would drop for those who went on to RI but she's not worried about those going to HCI. The RI/RGS students I know all take Chinese tuition and some going to 2 different tuition centres just as probably the HCI/NYGH kids do.

[INNOVATE]

d1s2



You have summed up correctly. University MT requirement is a pass in H1 MT or H1 MTB or D7 in Higher Chinese.

Given the right climate and encouragement, a student who showed no interest in chinese at primary level can clear HCL at GCE O -level. Absolutely no problem.

It bears repeating, I have encountered many many times.

[verykiasu2010]

INNOVATE:

d1s2



You have summed up correctly. University MT requirement is a pass in H1 MT or H1 MTB or D7 in Higher Chinese.

Given the right climate and encouragement, a student who showed no interest in chinese at primary level can clear HCL at GCE O -level. Absolutely no problem.

It bears repeating, I have encountered many many times.

That is very very assuring! Thanks!

[Nebbermind]

verykiasu2010:

what is the cause in Sec 2 / 3 that affected the HCL and other subjects also caused by HCL? sounds too much of a generalisation from your friend.

pre-HCI days means Chinese High days and the kids would be doing 'O' Levels instead of the through train / IP to HCJC...

And how could one subject just suddenly drop ? and caused other subjects to drop ? BGR problem ? disciplinary issue ? may be your friend did not tell you the whole story to save face lah .... just guessing

I remember those who are weak, they are given extra tuition by the teachers, and if there is any emo issues, the teachers are approachable....unless they don't want to talk and got discipline issue that caused all the subjects to drop, not just HCL...HCL is just a scapegoat by the parents may be

not sure what was the cause but probably just not doing well and then started losing interest and eventual spiralled out of control. He was in IP...believe HCI only came into existence 4~5 yrs after the IP prog.

Whatever it is, I'm just sharing and there is no need to be too defensive abt the school or HCL. I've friends whose parents were chinese teachers, and also friends who are chinese teachers themselves...and the children not necessarily enjoy or do well in chinese.

[fromnuaa]

how about RI/RGS?


for RI, if 10 periods spent on LA (english) and 5 spent on chinese, it means RI put more time on English than HCI, that is my concern...

my family is Chinese speaking environment, but my daughter likes English than Chinese, so sad...

xxjustakidxx:

I'm from hci sec 1. in my time table, 8 periods spent on LA (english) and only 7 spent on chinese.