The Alternative Story (TAS) - Discussion

[The Alternative Story]

jeestan:

TAS, thank you for the book, it is not just 'technical' as in we can learn the techniques but it is also full of very good examples that we can use to teach our children. I also sent my child for a trial lesson after getting the book and he really loved it. Class timing clashes with his other classes though but I am seeing what can be done. I must get him into your classes. :love:

Hi jeestan,

Thanks for the feedback, hope to see your child in our classes one day.

TAS

[BigDevil]

BigDevil:

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[coolit]

I am so :x I heard from my child that another school’s hod went to copy parts of the book and put it as her own schools worksheets! My child’s tuition mates were all complaining about it, then when they told the hod that it was their work and it was a book by TAS, she just brushed their comments aside. Then within the next few days, another teacher came to tell them that it was ok, anyway it was written by them so it belonged to the school!! When one kid said there were also other extracts in the worksheet given by the hod that were not written by anyone from that particular school, the teacher also brushed the comments aside. My kid is not from tt school but when she came home to tell me that her friends were talking about it after the tuition, I was so mad.


I mean I know, many people may not follow the copyright laws strictly but how can a hod and teachers of a school retype works from another book and pass it off as their own and then try to explain it away by saying it belongs to them anyway! Anyway I am glad my child is not in that school!

I dont mean to bad mouth a school, I just was so mad about it and when I asked TAS about it, they said they knew about it and they are trying to do something about it but they also do not want to make it into a big thing and get the teacher into trouble. But I was really angry because I never expect a school to behave in this way. A rival tuition centre maybe but not a school. I am not interested to bad mouth anyone so I do not wish to name the school. I just want to understand why pple behave like that and also to let off steam. I am not sure if this is the right channel. Sorry administrators of ksp if what I am doing is wrong, you can redirect my post anywhere you feel is apt.

[smurfette3]

Hi TAS,


I have pmed you about our order, yeah, finally got 40 copies…pant…pant.

Coolit,

I think a lot of hods and teachers just photocopy from assessment books but this is the first time I heard of teachers retyping and trying to pass it off as their own…really jia lat!

[jasmineong]

Aiyoooo!! But actually I am not very surprised because really I find the stds of some teachers questionable…anyway if they are good, they would not need to retype something from another book as theirs. But the values that they are imparting to the kids is bad, showing the kids that you do not have to follow any copyright laws and can just try to explain things away…

[hquek]

hi coolit,


That’s quite sad really. Thanks for highlighting - I’m guessing you’re not a teacher in TAS. I thought in education circles such action = plagiarism if proper credit wasn’t given.

Gosh, it must be embarrassing for the hod and teachers to be found out like that. And to think they even have the guts to try. Shake head.

[HaleyCopterz]

smurfette3:

Coolit,

I think a lot of hods and teachers just photocopy from assessment books but this is the first time I heard of teachers retyping and trying to pass it off as their own..really jia lat!

Hi,

Actually I dont think it is fair to say that a lot of teachers photocopy from assessment books, we do take the copyright laws quite seriously. I think most teachers use the school worksheets which are produced by the school if they do use outside sources, they would usually quote it or adapt the questions. I think it is just a few bad hats that give us a bad name.

[coolit]

smurfette3:

Coolit,

I think a lot of hods and teachers just photocopy from assessment books but this is the first time I heard of teachers retyping and trying to pass it off as their own..really jia lat!

I don't know what to say, my child's school teachers also do not even photocopy from assessment books. So to me, this was the ultimate when I heard it.

[coolit]

hquek:

hi coolit,


That's quite sad really. Thanks for highlighting - I'm guessing you're not a teacher in TAS. I thought in education circles such action = plagiarism if proper credit wasn't given.

Gosh, it must be embarrassing for the hod and teachers to be found out like that. And to think they even have the guts to try. Shake head.

Hi hquek,

It is indeed sad and no I am not a teacher at TAS, just a parent with children at TAS. I cannot tahan cos I never knew teachers could be so blatant about disregarding certain laws. Anyway, plagiarism is taken very seriously. From what I know, especially in the higher levels of learning, university and so on, I am not sure if it is taken as seriously at the lower levels.

Actually, come to think of it, quite silly of them to try when they can read that the extracts are from their school, wouldn't the students come to know about it? It is not as if this come is from some school abroad where it is harder to find out if people plagiarize their work.

[quirkymum]

Hi TAS,


Is this book still available? I would like to get one