Pei Hwa Presbyterian Primary

[Trapwithin]

janet_lee88:

Rest is equally impt, as well as drinking more fluids.

Totally agree. In fact, they should sleep a bit more during this period to keep thier mind in top form. For kids in morning session, do consider to let them have a short afternoon nap

janet_lee88:

In Pei Hwa, the kids' results between the 1st and 2nd are very very close...very competitive. I really pity the kids in the top class...having to fight to stay at the peak.

Sometimes .. it is the kid themselves that wanted to stay in the top few classes even when parents are willing to take a back seat. Among the kids, they talked about who and who is in what classes as well.

So .. it is poor parents as well :imdrowning:

[Jennifer]

E3:

However, I do know that for P4/5 kids who fell short of the GEP selection but had done well in the rounds would be given GEP-like programmes after curriculum time.

My elder boy missed out on this Centre of Excellence programme although he went for GEP round 2. He was put in JOY4 when he was transferred to PH despite his good grades in the previous sch, distinctions in New South Wales test and passing GEP round 1. His MA teacher called me up n said she had requested for him to join the programme and was waiting for the VP to approve. In the end, the approval did not materialise. Being new to the school then, I had no idea abt this programme. Till today, I have no idea why we were not told beforehand of this programme and why approval was not given. I could only guess that not all pupils who passed round 1 have the chance to get into the programme. Likely to be some other criteria.

[Jennifer]

janet_lee88:

What I do know is better teachers are allocated to the top few and weaker teachers...something like to maintain the top end and boost the weaker ones.

The reality of limited number of good teachers. Those classes in between kena the most.

[markfch]

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markfch:

Then my ds no chance for top 3 classes liao, cos he makes tons of careless mistakes/take short cuts answering qns when not supervised. Still the happy-go-lucky kind.

You still have chance. For your DS, P1 has not even started yet.
Practice made perfect .. so practice more

Haha, you don't know my son. To date he can still start a sentence with small caps and give one word ans to open ended qns when unsupervised. And if I reprimand him, he'll retort 'if you so clever, you do it yourself.' :roll:

Of course every parent would want their kids to go to the best class, but if the std of the top 3 classes is so high, perhaps I should be more realistic and lower my expectation a bit. Just try my best and accept the outcome.

[kohhweelin.010441gmail.010441com]

The standard of the cohort can be quite subjective. My dd’s class had the opportunity to try out 2008 and 2009 P2 SA2 Math exam papers. From my analysis of the questions, 2008 paper was more challenging. So, if the cohort for that year did not do as well, does that mean they are weaker? For parents with kids doing that Math paper, and not scoring well, does that imply that their kids are weak in Math? On the other hand, 2009 paper was easier and many kids could possibly do well, will it also result in parents getting complacent?


I believe the overall scores for the P2s for these two years will vary. Let’s just take the cut-off marks for each class with a pinch of salt.

A couple of months back, a discussion was made that half the p5 cohort flunk SA1 Math, does that mean the cohort is weak or the exam was too tough?

Thus, I believe in building a strong basic foundation, especially in the lower primary, and be ready and equipped before every exam, so as to cushion the shock of an extremely tough paper. It’s better than to swallow a bitter pill.

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Jennifer:

My elder boy missed out on this Centre of Excellence programme although he went for GEP round 2. He was put in JOY4 when he was transferred to PH despite his good grades in the previous sch, distinctions in New South Wales test and passing GEP round 1. His MA teacher called me up n said she had requested for him to join the programme and was waiting for the VP to approve. In the end, the approval did not materialise. Being new to the school then, I had no idea abt this programme. Till today, I have no idea why we were not told beforehand of this programme and why approval was not given. I could only guess that not all pupils who passed round 1 have the chance to get into the programme. Likely to be some other criteria.

Admin glitch? I found out from a P5 parent whose dd was in Charity 5 about this programme. That was what she told me about the kids who fell short of the GEP selection. If your ds's Math teacher had initiated in requesting your son to join the programme, then he shouldn't be too far off too!

Sigh...one can never have answers to everything. At least your son is already in Sec 1 and out of the primary school system. I believe your son had gone to a very good secondary school, coming from CH 6.

[php]

markfch:

Trapwithin:

[quote=\"markfch\"]Then my ds no chance for top 3 classes liao, cos he makes tons of careless mistakes/take short cuts answering qns when not supervised. Still the happy-go-lucky kind.

You still have chance. For your DS, P1 has not even started yet.
Practice made perfect .. so practice more

Haha, you don't know my son. To date he can still start a sentence with small caps and give one word ans to open ended qns when unsupervised. And if I reprimand him, he'll retort 'if you so clever, you do it yourself.' :roll:

Of course every parent would want their kids to go to the best class, but if the std of the top 3 classes is so high, perhaps I should be more realistic and lower my expectation a bit. Just try my best and accept the outcome.[/quote]let me share this...one day, a boy showed his SA1 result to his father. His father was very delighted because the boy scored 80-90 marks for all his papers. As an ex-PH student, he happily assumed that his kid would fall into the top few positions in class. But that happy moment only last for a couple of minutes.....he found out from his son that majority of the class scored above 90 marks....he began to PANIC....he compared his son's result with his which was 30 yrs ago.....

i always told my dd to just focus on her school work and try her very best. it doesn't matter where she is going to land as long as she put in an effort. she can slowly climb up the learning ladder with the right pace and one day she will definitely reach the top of the ladder.

[IJJ]

dyh:

during my son's yr, 280/300 could only get into Gr2. :lol:

Even at P2, with 279/300 could not get into Ch3, even tho P3 classes increase to abt 40/class

pHp:

always told my dd to just focus on her school work and try her very best. it doesn't matter where she is going to land as long as she put in an effort.

Exactly. I agree.[/quote]

[php]

E3:

The standard of the cohort can be quite subjective. My dd's class had the opportunity to try out 2008 and 2009 P2 SA2 Math exam papers. From my analysis of the questions, 2008 paper was more challenging. So, if the cohort for that year did not do as well, does that mean they are weaker? For parents with kids doing that Math paper, and not scoring well, does that imply that their kids are weak in Math? On the other hand, 2009 paper was easier and many kids could possibly do well, will it also result in parents getting complacent?


I believe the overall scores for the P2s for these two years will vary. Let's just take the cut-off marks for each class with a pinch of salt.

A couple of months back, a discussion was made that half the p5 cohort flunk SA1 Math, does that mean the cohort is weak or the exam was too tough?

Thus, I believe in building a strong basic foundation, especially in the lower primary, and be ready and equipped before every exam, so as to cushion the shock of an extremely tough paper. It's better than to swallow a bitter pill.

I believe they purposely set tough papers from P5 onward. the standard of papers in PH is normally 10% above national standard...So if the kid scores 60 marks in prelim, then 70 marks should be within reach during PSLE.

[kohhweelin.010441gmail.010441com]

php:

let me share this...one day, a boy showed his SA1 result to his father. His father was very delighted because the boy scored 80-90 marks for all his papers. As an ex-PH student, he happily assumed that his kid would fall into the top few positions in class. But that happy moment only last for a couple of minutes.....he found out from his son that majority of the class scored above 90 marks....he began to PANIC....he compared his son's result with his which was 30 yrs ago.....


i always told my dd to just focus on her school work and try her very best. it doesn't matter where she is going to land as long as she put in an effort. she can slowly climb up the learning ladder with the right pace and one day she will definitely reach the top of the ladder.

Something I learnt...Time and tide wait for no man in PHPPS... hehe...don't let yourself be thrown into a viscious cycle....no offence...

Reading your posts, you mentioned your dd has no problems going to top 3 classes...so I guess she is one who can relax, relax and still do well?

PHPPS is fast paced, everything goes past in a twinkling of an eye. I could still remember my dd applying for P1, balloting and all, now she's in P2...and before you know it...I'll be a very anxious parent preparing a child for PSLE...