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    Q&A - P3 Math

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      tianzhu
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      Hi

      Is your question replicated in full from your child’s worksheet? If it is, you may want to check with her teacher, the sum of 2350 is incorrect.
      How many sticks does she need for the eighth pattern? I think the answer should be 40 because we are talking about the number of sticks for pattern 8.
      To find the sum, a more appropriate way to phrase the question will be
      How many sticks does she need for the first eight patterns?

      Remember this series, Find the sum of (1+2+3+4+5+ …+100).
      Your daughter should be able to solve it.Apply this principle for the solution to your question.

      Going back to your question, find the pattern number for the sum of sticks which is 2325(not 2350)
      Other than Guess and Check, I can’t think of any other way to guide a primary student to arrive at the solution.
      Try 10 --------- 10/2(10+45) -------------- 275
      Try 20 ---------------------------------------- 1050
      Try 30 --------- 30/2(10+145) -------------- 2325, so the answer is pattern 30.

      Hope this is of some use to. You may want to share the solution after your daughter receive it from her school.

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        Daddy
        last edited by

        Thank tianzhu,


        For Q1 you are right, find only the pattern 8. Not sum up from 1st pattern to 8th pattern.

        The question is correct. What I think is that use 2350 sticks to make which pattern no. left over sticks are ok.

        Try 10 --------- 10/2(10+45) -------------- 275
        Try 20 ---------------------------------------- 1050
        Try 30 --------- 30/2(10+145) -------------- 2325, so the answer is pattern 30.


        Is the above uses AP formular?

        Thanks

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          tianzhu
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          Daddy:

          Is the above uses AP formular?
          Hi
          Leaving some extra sticks is a logical explanation. It depends on how the question is crafted. Is your question an exact replicate from your child’s worksheet or is it being summarised by you?

          Yes, it is an AP with a constant difference of 5.But I do not encourage using formulae at this stage. It’s more important to see the relationships in patterns.

          Use the same principle as in Find the sum of (1+2+3 ..................+100) to solve your question.

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            Daddy
            last edited by

            Thanks tianzhu,


            I replicated it my child’s worksheet. I ask the teacher for anwers. Anyway, thanks alot…

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              cokepower
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              ChiefKiasu:
              Here's another one, this time from Catholic High Primary 3 SA1:


              Gregory and Timothy has 192 stickers together. After Timothy gave 30 stickers to Gregory, Timothy had thrice as many sticker as Gregory. How many stickers did Gregory have at first?

              Again... no algebra please.
              T [][][] )
              ) 192
              G[] )

              4 units [] = 192
              [] = 192/4
              [] = 48

              Hence T have (48x3)=144, and G have 48

              T gives 30 sticker to G

              Henceforth G has 30 more and T have 30 less.

              Now we have to work backward as we need to find at first.

              G 48-30 =18

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                michellesim
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                Hi all


                pls find my model method to solve this question.
                http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1o56U0

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                  Daddy
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                  Hi,

                  My daughter have a question, do not know how to do. Please help. Thanks.
                  http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd39/tham33/CCF00662009_00000-2.jpg\">

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                    corneyAmber
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                    http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/ks2me/P6Mathorangejuice-2.jpg\">

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                      Daddy
                      last edited by

                      Hi Ks2me,


                      Any working?

                      Thanks

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                        corneyAmber
                        last edited by

                        Is this P6 level? Assuming they already know fractions?


                        The diagram is the working.
                        Each unit is a glass.
                        In row 2, the unit is halved, so 2 half filled units = 1 filled unit
                        The reason for using model diagram is that visually it is easy to see how the units can add up to give the same 3.5 units for the orange juice (total orange juice = 21 half-units, so we need to combine 7 half-units(=3.5 full units) for each child)

                        The other clue to solve this is that there are total 21 glasses so each child must get 7 glasses. Hence, in order to achieve that, there must be different combination of full, half and empty glasses since 7 are full, 7 half and 7 empty in order to achieve the other condition of same amt of orange juice.

                        Hope this helps to explain the solution.

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