Pei Hwa Presbyterian Primary

[comfy]

E3:

comfy:

[quote=\"E3\"]
Too late.

Do you mean to late to start ? or to late to start training at their level? :?
What I know is that PH don't train stds in lower Pri.

Too late to start training at P5/P6, regardless of whether PH trains or not. Math Olympiad is just non-routine Math questions in higher-older thinking so as long as it's within the syllabus, it can appear in exams. It's not really necessary for school to \"train\". For parents who are not familiar will just think that they are the \"tricky\" questions but for those familiar ones, they know these questions can be found in the Math Olympiad books in the market. One question came out EXACTLY for P1 SA2 last year from her Math Olympiad book, my dd used to spot for such questions then, nowadays, it's simply \"packaged\" in the Math papers so don't even bother to trace them anymore.[/quote]I heard from my friend that not all topics will appear in the Math papers, around 20% topics only. What do you think?

[Jennifer]

php:

janet_lee88:

My Maths Olympiad at home collecting dust...no time to attempt.

just wonder whether all P5/P6 students in PH will undergo Maths Olympiad training...

Definitely not all. Pupils to be recommended by the class MA teacher and then to be approved by the HOD MA. According to my elder boy's MA teacher, the training is heavily subsidied by the school, the pupil pays only a nominal fee like $50 for 8 lessons which is 2 or 2.5 hours on a non-supplementary lesson day, usu. Wednesday.

During my elder boy's time, the MO service provider was HOTHOUSE. Not sure if next year will still be by them (I said this becos I saw some MathHubs personnel leaving the sch compound ard 1.30pm. Maybe come to intro their services.)

[Jennifer]

markfch:

php:

markfch, you see for yourself... more things are coming in, right? just to share with you and i believe many parents did that...i exposed dd to Maths Olympiad after SA1. now she can solve chicken-rabbit question and interval question.....

Maths Olympiad training at p1? :faint:

I tell you, one day only got 24 hrs hor. I really cannot squeeze any more time out for Maths Olympiad training for ds. Unless I limit him to 5 hrs of sleep a day :evil: . Joking only, even I'm not so crazy ok.

If you hv seen samples of exam papers for MA, then you wld see such MO qns appearing in section B, usu 1 to 2 qns. U want your boy to score full marks, then need to start on these.

[dyh]

janet_lee88:

I will cut down on Math assessment books next yr...like Challenging Problems. Getting only about 3-4. But for Chinese, need to focus on Comprehension and duan wen tian kong more.

Cut down already still 3 or 4?? Wow how many did u buy?

For me usually 1 or 2...

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Jennifer:

php:

[quote=\"janet_lee88\"]My Maths Olympiad at home collecting dust...no time to attempt.

just wonder whether all P5/P6 students in PH will undergo Maths Olympiad training...

Definitely not all. Pupils to be recommended by the class MA teacher and then to be approved by the HOD MA. According to my elder boy's MA teacher, the training is heavily subsidied by the school, the pupil pays only a nominal fee like $50 for 8 lessons which is 2 or 2.5 hours on a non-supplementary lesson day, usu. Wednesday.

During my elder boy's time, the MO service provider was HOTHOUSE. Not sure if next year will still be by them (I said this becos I saw some MathHubs personnel leaving the sch compound ard 1.30pm. Maybe come to intro their services.)[/quote]These are for the ones going for the Math Olympiad Competitions, right?

Was php referring to those training for competitions or training for doing upper pri Math exam papers?

[php]

Jennifer:

markfch:

[quote=\"php\"]
markfch, you see for yourself... more things are coming in, right? just to share with you and i believe many parents did that...i exposed dd to Maths Olympiad after SA1. now she can solve chicken-rabbit question and interval question.....

Maths Olympiad training at p1? :faint:

I tell you, one day only got 24 hrs hor. I really cannot squeeze any more time out for Maths Olympiad training for ds. Unless I limit him to 5 hrs of sleep a day :evil: . Joking only, even I'm not so crazy ok.

If you hv seen samples of exam papers for MA, then you wld see such MO qns appearing in section B, usu 1 to 2 qns. U want your boy to score full marks, then need to start on these.[/quote]There are more MO questions in the upper primary papers. of course the kids can use heuristic method to solve the questions, but most of the time they have difficulty in the application. MO methods are more straight forward and easy to apply.

For example, a excess/shortage question. there are 3 ways to solve, MO way, heuristic method and \"old uncle\" way - algebra which is also fall under MO method. At least 70%/80% of the PSLE questions can be solved using algebra. So if a kid is weak in modelling and heuristic approach, knowledge in MO and algebra will help....

[php]

E3:

These are for the ones going for the Math Olympiad Competitions, right?


Was php referring to those training for competitions or training for doing upper pri Math exam papers?

I meant in general for students, not training for competition...

[markfch]

Jennifer:

markfch:

[quote=\"php\"]
markfch, you see for yourself... more things are coming in, right? just to share with you and i believe many parents did that...i exposed dd to Maths Olympiad after SA1. now she can solve chicken-rabbit question and interval question.....

Maths Olympiad training at p1? :faint:

I tell you, one day only got 24 hrs hor. I really cannot squeeze any more time out for Maths Olympiad training for ds. Unless I limit him to 5 hrs of sleep a day :evil: . Joking only, even I'm not so crazy ok.

If you hv seen samples of exam papers for MA, then you wld see such MO qns appearing in section B, usu 1 to 2 qns. U want your boy to score full marks, then need to start on these.[/quote]I agree with Mrsbongz. It's scary to read the posts here sometimes :shock:

[Jennifer]

E3:

Jennifer:

Definitely not all. Pupils to be recommended by the class MA teacher and then to be approved by the HOD MA.

These are for the ones going for the Math Olympiad Competitions, right?

Was php referring to those training for competitions or training for doing upper pri Math exam papers?

When the MA teacher called us up, she did not specify these training are for the MO competitions, but so happened, most pupils who went for the training did go for the competitions.

Not many pupils obtained platinium awards in the MO competition. I think it is either the 8 sessions are insufficient or the content of the training is not up to the competition stds. I know of one schmate who also attends xx centre got a platinium.

[verykiasu2010]

you guys need to differentiate math training for :


1.) Math Olympiad competitions :(RI< NMOS, SMPOS, AMC, etc etc); versus

2.) Math training to tackle higher order math questions within scope of PSLE

there are sometime some questions in PSLE that is of math olympiad style, but not may, and not often…these are supposed the "killer" questions under normal PSLE candidates…some kids are prepared for it - depending how resourceful the teachers are as well as the learning pace of the kids too