How to tell if a child is gifted?
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Funz:
Aren't we? :oops:
I think kids must be thinking we adults are a confused bunch.
I think my kids are often more right than me. We adults are probably well accustomed to the world (rightly or wrongly), kids are more pure and they probably are more right often. In fact, I think most all kids, before they get tainted by the world are geniuses. We adults de-genius-tised them. Think about all the things they learn the 1st 6 years of their lives. Now, how can we adults ever do so much:
1. From not being able to talk to comprehending 2 or more NEW languages.
2. From not moving the head much, to crawling to sitting, to walking to running.
3. Many learnt to swim.
4. Lean a new sport.
5. From not knowing 1-2-3 to adding and subtracting
6. Supporting his own weight
7. Learning anything 2ce faster than an adult
If we adults stop building boundaries around a child's learning abilities, then perhaps they can continue to be geniuses for a longer period of time.
How I wished I can get my genius mind back... -
ksi:
You must have been a magnet!
hahaha I can identify with that for my shopping experience. :rotflmao:
Whenever I walk into a quiet shop without any shoppers, within minutes the shop will be filled with shoppers. Even my little one notices that and she has verbalised it before to me....\"How come like that?\"
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Hie everyone
My hubby and self spoke to my son's principal on Wednesday morning. We really thank God he's very supportive !
The principal knows my dear son probably he \"caused\" a lot of problems for the school, the complaints ( from mummy ) and the various stuffs that he did.
Anyway, we're discussing and apparently there are also another boy who's like my son, exhbiting the same behavior as him. So school has experience dealing w such children.
Well, the principal proposed to put my son in the school's Strategic Board Game ( namely chess, weiqi, and scrabble ) next year. So at least he will have proper training from the teachers and have more opponents to play with. And the Innovation and ENtreprenuer Club the year after ! ( usually these are for the upper primary. These activities at least, in the hope of giving ds motivations and challenge in looking forward to going school. The princiapl even spoke to ds, getting to know his likes and dislikes.
His P2 form teacher next year will also be working closely w me, to explore further to challenge him. I really pray his P2 form teacher will be a pleasant person to speak and work with.
Once again, I'd like to thank all of you again for the idea of speaking with the principal.
God bless you all !
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joylly:
Wow! You are blessed with fantastic teachers and a principal! I was not so lucky. When I asked the teachers and principal for support when DS was P2, they said that my son is not smart, just a trouble maker. What a torture to be in their classrooms!Hie everyone
My hubby and self spoke to my son's principal on Wednesday morning. We really thank God he's very supportive !
The principal knows my dear son probably he \"caused\" a lot of problems for the school, the complaints ( from mummy ) and the various stuffs that he did.
Anyway, we're discussing and apparently there are also another boy who's like my son, exhbiting the same behavior as him. So school has experience dealing w such children.
Well, the principal proposed to put my son in the school's Strategic Board Game ( namely chess, weiqi, and scrabble ) next year. So at least he will have proper training from the teachers and have more opponents to play with. And the Innovation and ENtreprenuer Club the year after ! ( usually these are for the upper primary. These activities at least, in the hope of giving ds motivations and challenge in looking forward to going school. The princiapl even spoke to ds, getting to know his likes and dislikes.
His P2 form teacher next year will also be working closely w me, to explore further to challenge him. I really pray his P2 form teacher will be a pleasant person to speak and work with.
Once again, I'd like to thank all of you again for the idea of speaking with the principal.
God bless you all !
You go and hope that your boy will enjoy school! -
Busymom:
Haha...more like a shopping queen?
You must have been a magnet!ksi:
hahaha I can identify with that for my shopping experience. :rotflmao:
Whenever I walk into a quiet shop without any shoppers, within minutes the shop will be filled with shoppers. Even my little one notices that and she has verbalised it before to me....\"How come like that?\"
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2ppaamm:
hi,
I was not so lucky. When I asked the teachers and principal for support when DS was P2, they said that my son is not smart, just a trouble maker. What a torture to be in their classrooms!
You go and hope that your boy will enjoy school!
you may want to refer to some ideas in this book :
http://www.linguisystems.com/toc_samples/1174.pdf
http://www.linguisystems.com/itemdetail.php?id=10053
I think there are only a few relevant parts (w modification) in each section:
a) conversation skills - speaker & listener responsibilities
b) basic communication skills - status expectations, a bit of body language, language style
c) emotions
d) peer relationships
Bear in mind that social norms are culture-specific and social expectations are shaped by parents' values. I think it may help if you can deliver your message with humour. Most Aspies have quirky sense of humour; it kind of tickles their brain. Maybe seek advice from your eldest son? If he is somehow able to map/define his feelings, he may be able to map those feelings to other persons. The next thing is to find a bright person who shares his interests so that he has someone to relate to.
I'm not sure what happened; as your son's IQ scores are off the charts, it may have been better if he skipped a grade or two in lower pri, esp since he had a horrible time in kindergarten. He would have been quite comfy in P3 as kids are less childish. The positive spin from being labelled gifted and AS, may garner positive support as opposed to \"living hell in P2\". I know some parents flash their child's IQ report in a bid stave off a transfer to special school. Actually, it's difficult for principals to do so due to the CE act.
Labels can work for and against a person. Hopefully someone else can learn from your experience but it's really rare for a child to be that gifted.
It's really impt to choose a school with right values and suitable peers when a child has special needs. -
pingsped, thank you for the recommendation. I will certainly look into buying book.
It is already too late to skip lower primary. He is already 10. Now we have an opportunity to skip to Sec 3, but he does not want to go. He wants his friends, which is fine by me.
That P2 teacher was so busy telling me how she knew my son was not gifted because hers was in GEP and she could identify one a mile away, and why I should be smacking my son instead of asking for provision given his disabilities. I wonder why she is still teaching in the school. It was hell not only for my son, but the whole class did very badly. My son happened to top the class despite all the problems. I knew she made it a point to score him down, because he would score almost full marks for papers, but for the projects, she would give him 60% - for every subject she taught. Talk about teachers who won't understand...
Not biggie, I'm not into marks anyway. -
2ppaamm:
ya the teacher probably think that her gep son is the smartest..pingsped, thank you for the recommendation. I will certainly look into buying book.
It is already too late to skip lower primary. He is already 10. Now we have an opportunity to skip to Sec 3, but he does not want to go. He wants his friends, which is fine by me.
That P2 teacher was so busy telling me how she knew my son was not gifted because hers was in GEP and she could identify one a mile away, and why I should be smacking my son instead of asking for provision given his disabilities. I wonder why she is still teaching in the school. It was hell not only for my son, but the whole class did very badly. My son happened to top the class despite all the problems. I knew she made it a point to score him down, because he would score almost full marks for papers, but for the projects, she would give him 60% - for every subject she taught. Talk about teachers who won't understand... Not biggie, I'm not into marks anyway.
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Has anyone read this before? :?
http://scientific-child-prodigy.blogspot.com/ -
[Editor's note: Topic selected & edited for http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/content/what-i-will-do-if-my-child-child-prodigy.]
smurf:
Yes, we have a huge discussion about Ainan here at KSP before. I think one of his parents also reacted to somethings we said here.Has anyone read this before? :?
http://scientific-child-prodigy.blogspot.com/
I believe this child is very bright and certainly a prodigy. If he were my child, I would perhaps have done very different things with him. I certainly cannot claim to have as bright a kid, nor am I a better parent. But, these are things I'd do or not do:
1. I'd rather my child not be child prodigy, for there're just that handful of prodigies who truly make it as adults. I wish he'll discover more about himself than quantum theory.
2. I'd rather have him see the world, than having the world recognise him.
2. I'd rather not have him bother to write for publication and peer evaluators but get him to write to touch the hearts and minds of common people, to reach out to them and be relevant to them.
3. If he chooses to follow my footsteps and become an academic, I'd rather he not publish at 10, but at 90.
4. I'd not expose him to the press, and I'd not find joy in telling the world how smart he is. I'd wish him a few true friends whom he can share small successes with, run with the guys and enjoy a good laugh at each other's stupidity and mistakes.
5. I'd not take pain to show case his difference. I'd rather rejoice in him being just the same as the neighbour's boy.
6. I'd not show the world how bitter I am when the rest of the world disagree with the way I should view my son, but take the opportunity to show him what grace and forgiveness is about. This is not a fair world and we should never demand it to be.
7. If I have my choice, I'd want my son's IQ be to around 120, and an EQ of 210 (if there's a measurement of EQ). Add a kind heart and a love for living, joy and not bitterness, the ability to present and have his ideas accepted. A sympathy for the poor and respect for the old. A love for his country, patriotism, filial piety, gratitude, politeness, forgiveness, and most importantly, humility. In other words, VALUES. I want him to value principles more than academic knowledge.
BUT these are just my thoughts. I don't think I have, don't wish to have and don't need to have a kid prodigy. I just wished the world would accept him the way he is and allow him the simplicities of live, a chance to be one of the boys. And, if he so happens to make it to the uni early, we'll rejoice in that too - if that's really what he wants to do. Is that too much to ask for?
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