Discussion on Dr Ong Teck Chin
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jtoh:
I like your analogies. What do you mean by boiling a frog?[/quote]the fable of the frog that doesn't realise he's being boiled cos the temperature increases so slowly... before he knows it, he's dead meat.autolycus:
[quote=\"Muffins\"]Maybe what WeiHan is getting at, is that Mark liked this, and because he got extra money and promotions, he went ahead with it. But ever since Dr. Ong asked for too much, he disagreed.....
Dear Muffins,
It might not have been a question of 'like'. A number of people have had uncannily similar experiences, and they start with actions that are innocuous in themselves, followed by plausibly deniable actions, and then turning into what might be described as experiences with echoes of various psychopathologies. There's a gradation. A bit like boiling a frog.
The only reason the large number of encounters go unreported is that they are plausibly deniable. Yet when you put them together, they form a pattern. And it is not a very nice one, or at least, a statistically improbable one — a bit like flipping a coin and it keeps landing on its edge.
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jtoh:
If you put a frog in pot of water at room temp and start heating it up, the frog will still be happy in the pot at beginning without realizing the danger it is in. However, when the water gets warmer and then too hot to bear, it's already too late to escape. This is my interpretation of this analogy
I like your analogies. What do you mean by boiling a frog?
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:lol: Thanks pecalis and toddles.
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pecalis:
the frog is cold blooded, and its body temperature rises with it environment without realising it, hence being cooked unknowingly, without knowing the need to run away
If you put a frog in pot of water at room temp and start heating it up, the frog will still be happy in the pot at beginning without realizing the danger it is in. However, when the water gets warmer and then too hot to bear, it's already too late to escape. This is my interpretation of this analogyjtoh:
I like your analogies. What do you mean by boiling a frog? -
We are all ‘frogs’ to a certain extent. Generally, we have insight into our personal behaviour, but seldom is it perfect. Like the frog, I guess we’d appreciate if someone outside the pot told us that the water was starting to boil. If we fail to take heed, then its pretty much our own fault.
Hence my reluctance to judge or cast stones at those who have demonstrated failures in morality or behaviour. In one situation or another, any of us could have exercised poor judgement and lack of insight. Their actions are not to be condoned, but that is not to say that they are to be cast to the wolves. Humans are complex beings, and seldom is one unremittingly bad or pristine white.
As I said in an earlier post, all of us could benefit from some form of ‘board of governors’, people who know and care about us, and help us keep on the straight and narrow. -
3Boys:
Ooooo.... we are all frogs,We are all 'frogs' ...
As I said in an earlier post, all of us could benefit from some form of 'board of governors', people who know and care about us, and help us keep on the straight and narrow.
and the \"board of governors\" are special,
no frogs in there? :? -
May the Force be with you…
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dunnoleh:
We all have different blind spots yes? Are you and your spouse not complementary? Do you not look out for each other's backs? It's kinda tough to go through life without folk to help you look out for things you don't necessarily see (particularly about one's own self), and call them out for you.
Ooooo.... we are all frogs,3Boys:
We are all 'frogs' ...
As I said in an earlier post, all of us could benefit from some form of 'board of governors', people who know and care about us, and help us keep on the straight and narrow.
and the \"board of governors\" are special,
no frogs in there? :?
Am I sensing some hostility? -
May the Frogs be with you....
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someone mentioned that we need to instill INTEGRITY in all our future leaders… all the other virtues are secondary.
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