Local Vs International School
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i think one should check to see if there is a waitlist at the international schools before giving onself any headaches.
friend is trying to get his son into sji (i) but is on waitlist.
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ycpang:
Yes, this is true.
I also remember what our MM LKY said, if there is no pressure, you will never improve.
I am grateful that he stressed the importance of mother tongue otherwise I would have been monolingual. -
rosemummy:
wouldn't it be more expensive to do 2 addtional year in US- community college & all that. Infact , it will be better to do A-level & finish first degree in 6-7 semester with great A level score & associated credits
Like to share where you got this info from? From what I know, the reverse is true. But whether A level or IB, you don't get much credit, probably just for 1 or 2 subjects, which would translate to 6 credits.DadOfGirl:
A level get more credits in US undergraduate shools than any IB diploma..
Actually, if you're planning to do a first degree in the US, the best option is to forget about both A level, IB or poly. Just do O level and SAT and apply for admission straight away. Alternatively, you can do the freshmen and sophomore years in a community college. Most students starting at a community college immediately after their O levels should be in their junior (third) year by the time those completing their A level / IB start their first year. Definitely faster and cheaper.
That's the chepest for middle class family. -
DadOfGirl:
wouldn't it be more expensive to do 2 addtional year in US- community college & all that. Infact , it will be better to do A-level & finish first degree in 6-7 semester with great A level score & associated credits
Like to share where you got this info from? From what I know, the reverse is true. But whether A level or IB, you don't get much credit, probably just for 1 or 2 subjects, which would translate to 6 credits.rosemummy:
[quote=\"DadOfGirl\"]
A level get more credits in US undergraduate shools than any IB diploma..
Actually, if you're planning to do a first degree in the US, the best option is to forget about both A level, IB or poly. Just do O level and SAT and apply for admission straight away. Alternatively, you can do the freshmen and sophomore years in a community college. Most students starting at a community college immediately after their O levels should be in their junior (third) year by the time those completing their A level / IB start their first year. Definitely faster and cheaper.
That's the chepest for middle class family.[/quote]Erm, not cheaper. If a student does O-levels + SATs, he will end up graduating two years earlier than his friends. It's not two additional years. The Singapore system of education is based on the English system, which can take a very long time before university. The American system, however, takes a longer time for professional degrees. -
I also heard about the reverse being true, but then again, there are different A levels all around the world, so I’m not sure a comparison can truly be made. I suppose it depends on the universities. But for IB, it’s uniform worldwide, so it’s easier to obtain the statistics for credit transfer. That’s what I heard.
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twilight:
I also heard about the reverse being true, but then again, there are different A levels all around the world, so I'm not sure a comparison can truly be made. I suppose it depends on the universities. But for IB, it's uniform worldwide, so it's easier to obtain the statistics for credit transfer. That's what I heard.
The Singapore-Cambridge GCE A-levels are acknowledged by the few universities who know the difference to be amongst the toughest in the world. Such universities will give a bit of extra credit. However the IB is considered better than -other- A-level qualifications in general.
Some universities don't bother with the difference between SCGCE and other A-levels. Those will consider the IB better. -
autolycus:
Erm, not cheaper. If a student does O-levels + SATs, he will end up graduating two years earlier than his friends. It's not two additional years. The Singapore system of education is based on the English system, which can take a very long time before university. The American system, however, takes a longer time for professional degrees.[/quote]It's definitely cheaper to start your US degree immediately. It's not 2 additional years in a community college - the 2 years is the general education part of the US degree, and had to be done whether you start with O level, A level or IB. After your community college, you transfer to the third year, while someone with A level or IB start in the first year. Cost wise, community college isn't that expensive. It'll work out cheaper than international schools and the fees would probably cost about the same as what you'll pay for tuition for A level students. You can do it accelerated and complete in about 1-1/2 years.
wouldn't it be more expensive to do 2 addtional year in US- community college & all that. Infact , it will be better to do A-level & finish first degree in 6-7 semester with great A level score & associated creditsDadOfGirl:
[quote=\"rosemummy\"]
Like to share where you got this info from? From what I know, the reverse is true. But whether A level or IB, you don't get much credit, probably just for 1 or 2 subjects, which would translate to 6 credits.
Actually, if you're planning to do a first degree in the US, the best option is to forget about both A level, IB or poly. Just do O level and SAT and apply for admission straight away. Alternatively, you can do the freshmen and sophomore years in a community college. Most students starting at a community college immediately after their O levels should be in their junior (third) year by the time those completing their A level / IB start their first year. Definitely faster and cheaper.
That's the chepest for middle class family.
From what I know, you don't get much credit for A levels or IB. At the most, you'll save just 1 semester after spending 2 years doing it. For community college, you can almost always transfer all your credit, including to many of the Ivies and definitely to all the public ivies. You may also get priority to public universities in the same state, compared with someone applying straight with A levels / IB.
Yes, professional degrees can only be done after your 1st degree in the US.
Just to add, you'll graduate much faster if you skip your A level / IB if you intend to study in the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
The only advantage in doing A level / IB is that the student is older, more matured and better prepared for college, and will tend to do better than a 16 year old fresh out of O level, particularly for the Maths and Science subjects, and Econs (if they did all that in their A level / IB). -
rosemummy:
It's definitely cheaper to start your US degree immediately. It's not 2 additional years in a community college - the 2 years is the general education part of the US degree, and had to be done whether you start with O level, A level or IB. After your community college, you transfer to the third year, while someone with A level or IB start in the first year. Cost wise, community college isn't that expensive. It'll work out cheaper than international schools and the fees would probably cost about the same as what you'll pay for tuition for A level students. You can do it accelerated and complete in about 1-1/2 years.
Erm, not cheaper. If a student does O-levels + SATs, he will end up graduating two years earlier than his friends. It's not two additional years. The Singapore system of education is based on the English system, which can take a very long time before university. The American system, however, takes a longer time for professional degrees.autolycus:
[quote=\"DadOfGirl\"]
wouldn't it be more expensive to do 2 addtional year in US- community college & all that. Infact , it will be better to do A-level & finish first degree in 6-7 semester with great A level score & associated credits
That's the chepest for middle class family.
From what I know, you don't get much credit for A levels or IB. At the most, you'll save just 1 semester after spending 2 years doing it. For community college, you can almost always transfer all your credit, including to many of the Ivies and definitely to all the public ivies. You may also get priority to public universities in the same state, compared with someone applying straight with A levels / IB.
Yes, professional degrees can only be done after your 1st degree in the US.
Just to add, you'll graduate much faster if you skip your A level / IB if you intend to study in the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
The only advantage in doing A level / IB is that the student is older, more matured and better prepared for college, and will tend to do better than a 16 year old fresh out of O level, particularly for the Maths and Science subjects, and Econs (if they did all that in their A level / IB).[/quote]A-Level (JC) tution fee would be @ 4000/5000 Singapore Dollars per year. It will work out to be cost of 10000 SGd for two years.
Would you let go such opportunity to form foundation at reasonable cost? GEC-Alevel in sinagpore is defintely rated very well & if you score straight , you can save one semester in most Uni in US. -
DadOfGirl:
A-Level (JC) tution fee would be @ 4000/5000 Singapore Dollars per year. It will work out to be cost of 10000 SGd for two years.
It's definitely cheaper to start your US degree immediately. It's not 2 additional years in a community college - the 2 years is the general education part of the US degree, and had to be done whether you start with O level, A level or IB. After your community college, you transfer to the third year, while someone with A level or IB start in the first year. Cost wise, community college isn't that expensive. It'll work out cheaper than international schools and the fees would probably cost about the same as what you'll pay for tuition for A level students. You can do it accelerated and complete in about 1-1/2 years.rosemummy:
[quote=\"autolycus\"]
Erm, not cheaper. If a student does O-levels + SATs, he will end up graduating two years earlier than his friends. It's not two additional years. The Singapore system of education is based on the English system, which can take a very long time before university. The American system, however, takes a longer time for professional degrees.
From what I know, you don't get much credit for A levels or IB. At the most, you'll save just 1 semester after spending 2 years doing it. For community college, you can almost always transfer all your credit, including to many of the Ivies and definitely to all the public ivies. You may also get priority to public universities in the same state, compared with someone applying straight with A levels / IB.
Yes, professional degrees can only be done after your 1st degree in the US.
Just to add, you'll graduate much faster if you skip your A level / IB if you intend to study in the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
The only advantage in doing A level / IB is that the student is older, more matured and better prepared for college, and will tend to do better than a 16 year old fresh out of O level, particularly for the Maths and Science subjects, and Econs (if they did all that in their A level / IB).
Would you let go such opportunity to form foundation at reasonable cost? GEC-Alevel in sinagpore is defintely rated very well & if you score straight , you can save one semester in most Uni in US.[/quote]From what i've heard from students who've gone to American Universities, they can get 1 yr exemptions with A levels in most cases. A friend's daughter who went to Berkeley after her A levels is attempting to complete her undergraduate degree in 2.5yrs with course exemptions from her A levels. -
d1s2:
From what i've heard from students who've gone to American Universities, they can get 1 yr exemptions with A levels in most cases. A friend's daughter who went to Berkeley after her A levels is attempting to complete her undergraduate degree in 2.5yrs with course exemptions from her A levels.
The reason this is possible is because A-level exams (grade A, B/C) will give you varying exemptions from taking prerequisite courses.
For example, a typical A-level H2 Chem, Bio or Maths C will give you 8 course credits and fulfil the requirements for the equivalent courses you will otherwise have to take at the School of Engineering at UC Berkeley. Note however that A-level Physics won't do this.
Also note that the S'pore-Cambridge is taken to be roughly equal to the HK, Oxbridge and London A-levels.
For the IB, UCB gives about 2/3 of the credit, but sometimes the full exemption. This differs from undergrad prog to undergrad prog.
You need a good college counsellor to tell you what exemptions you will get for your combination.
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