Chongfu Primary

[babycutie71]

2littlemonkeys:

babycutie71:

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Hi is your friend in this forum?
My son seem like dunno watz going on in the school
He is in 1united. Tks

Btw any 1united mummies here?

I don't think my friend is in this forum. Her boy's name is Kendrick. You can ask you boy whether he know who is Kendrick.

He said YES then said dun knw....
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Your boy is cute. What is your boy's name? Maybe I can ask Kendrick if I sees him whether he knows yr boy.

[2galsmum]

Icymummy:

Some personal grumbling & feelings....Pls ignore if you feel it's offensive.Sorry Thanks!


Saw my son's chinese spelling test. ALL Hanyu Pinyin ! Maybe I'm old school but I'm wondering how kids are gonna learn chinese like that? Yes, we type Hanyu Pinyin into computers now,the chinese words associated with it will appear. but if computer break down how?!!
So does that mean we can write to the chinese teacher using hanyu pinyin in email?or ask our kids to hand in hanyu pinyin compositions for exams?
I'm actually very disappointed with this. Perhaps next time Chinese wouldn't know how to write/read mandarin at all...I feel that their generation already lose out of not knowing dialects...now mandarin....haizzz.. It feel like my son have been a guinea pig for education system. During PAP Kindergarten, they used \"Phonics\" to teach English. Now they used Hanyu Pinyin to teach Chinese. Then if given a few years, this don't work..MOE just change their system again...Haizz :stupid: :shock: Let's wait and see....

Languages (english,mandarin,spanish,japanese,etc) are all learn the same way. Read, Write, Listen, Speak. Nowadays kids are so smart, they actually pick up fast if we can use creative ways to teach them these 4 things.....It also bores down to how well we know our kids. From there. we can know the way that is most suitable to teach and nurture our kids.

My 2 kids are worlds apart, I always say 1 north pole,1 south pole.Y? coz 1 is the logical,hearing type (think of mathematician). one is the visual,creative side (think of artist). 2 different methods of teachings is needed for both!Now I must crack my \"creative juice\" to think of ways to teach this Hanyu Pinyin Mandarin to my son! Haizzz.... :lol:

Hi icymummy,

I used to be like you, how HYPY is going to help her recognize characters? But her HYPY is better than me now. As for phonics, those with phonics foundation, don't you find that spelling is a bliss for them??

They will have less of HYPY in 2nd half of P1 or P2...fyi (that's when u wish they have, to score).

She is in P3 now, coping well with the languages, no worries..

Cheers

[babycutie71]

Re: Chinese



I can’t recall how I master Chinese during my primary school in my era (in the 70s to be exact).

Definitely HYPY was not implemented at that time and I learn to write using strokes. HYPY is only implemented at a later stage of my school years. Maybe when I was in P5?

In fact, I prefer my kids to read by recognising the chinese character instead of HYPY. However, kids nowadays are mostly "English Savvy". Without the aid of HYPY, most of them cannot read. My girl is one example. She depends on HYPY to read. But she still can recognise some Chinese characters cos we "force" her to do so.

Not many children can read by looking only at chinese characters nowadays. I believe it is the way the child is being nurtured when they learn Chinese. And if you realised, many chinese storybooks for children selling at bookstores comes with HYPY. I wanted to get purely chinese characters storybooks for my kids but I couldn’t find one.

[babycutie71]

Imp75,


ODT = Oral Digital Thermometer

[Imp75]

HYPY is confusing me and I don’t seem to be able to understand the technicalities behind HYPY to explain them properly to my gal, ie why grandpa ye ye (the second ye does not have the notation) and why b p m f (like why "b" cannot form into "be") there isn’t an explanation in the textbook and I wonder if there are any good self-help HYPY books?

[Icymummy]

Pls don't get me wrong. I'm NOT Anti Hanyu Pinyin or Phonics. Personally I's quite good at HYPY, it's just that kids are missing out some beauty of how a chinese character comes about. sometimes explaining how the characters come about like their strokes, it's easier for them to associate with & easier for them to remember how to write them.


I agree phonics can help them with pronunciation of words. I was also taught phonics in kindergarten (but last time it wasn't called phonics at all!) I feel that phonics should be a supplementary/additional during kindergarten. But PAP used it as their English lesson! So my kid can't form a proper sentence then!

Computer is a big part of our life now. Sooner or later everyone in school will be using thinkpad /ipad.

I think I'm super old school coz my parents (in their 70s & 80s). I'm still communicating with my pen pals via letters.LOL! I hope I wouldn't miss the times when my child comes running to me and asking me words he doesn't know how to read/pronounce in his story books. Then we can both sit down and read together at night in midst of our busy schedule.

The best thing is a bit of everything. Just like learning english. A bit of phonics, a bit of vocabulary, a bit of adjectives,a bit of grammer ,etc = English.

[babycutie71]

Imp75:

HYPY is confusing me and I don't seem to be able to understand the technicalities behind HYPY to explain them properly to my gal, ie why grandpa ye ye (the second ye does not have the notation) and why b p m f (like why \"b\" cannot form into \"be\") there isn't an explanation in the textbook and I wonder if there are any good self-help HYPY books?

爷爷- Only one notation at the front word because both are of same sound.

bpmf, dtln are 声调, and are used in front of 韵母.

韵母 comprises of ao, iao, an, ang, uan, uan, ou, ui...... etc.

[babycutie71]

Sorry, bpmf, dtln should be 声母. 声调are the 4 sounds.


Also there are J, Q, X, S, SH, Z, ZH,… I need to find out what these are. I think these are also 声母


Usually a Chinese words comprises of one 声母 & one 韵母 in hypy.


For eg. 睡觉 Sh + ui & J + iao
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声母 韵母 声母 韵母


I hope above is not too chim for you, IMP75.

[Imp75]

hi babycutie


Thanks for this, I understand the "sheng mu" and "yun mu" cos they are like consonants and vowels in phonics, but hard for me to explain to my gal why "b" cannot blend with e to form "be" whereas "b" can blend with "a", "i" and "u" and "yu"). Do we need to learn by memorising the hypy rules? Is there not a better way?

[babycutie71]

Imp75:

hi babycutie


Thanks for this, I understand the \"sheng mu\" and \"yun mu\" cos they are like consonants and vowels in phonics, but hard for me to explain to my gal why \"b\" cannot blend with e to form \"be\" whereas \"b\" can blend with \"a\", \"i\" and \"u\" and \"yu\"). Do we need to learn by memorising the hypy rules? Is there not a better way?

a = ah o = or e = 鹅 i = 衣 u = 乌 ü = 鱼


B cannot blend with \"e\" because in Chinese there isn't a word that is read as Be (burr).