2010 COPs for 2011 Sec One Intake
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I 100% agreed with you! It is individual interest, no point saying all the negative things abt another school, please consider the feelings of the kids who studied there! Didnt we as a adult, should encourage them instead of keep saying all the negative things about the school.
micko07:
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NUS/NTU/SMU, - Depends on your course. Some are based purely on A levels/NUSHS Dip/IB results (eg Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences), others have interviews/ aptitude tests. (eg Law, Medicine). Grade profiles range from BCC/B to AAA/A, depending on the subjectverykiasu2010:
what is the benchmark to enter NUS / NTU / SMU or Oxford/Cambridge or the Ivy ?
Oxford/Cambridge - Academic interviews (compulsory), Sec 4 Grades, Predicted grades, Aptitude tests (eg TSA, LNAT, BMAT), Teacher recommendation, Personal Statement. All offers are AAA (or higher), regardless of subject.
Ivies - Extracurriculars, essays, alumni interview (optional), grades, teacher recommendations, SAT/ACT scores
The different schools have different selection criteria and policies. Why? Because they want different types of students (To generalize: Academically suited for Singapore/UK, all rounded/ exceptional achievements for US).
If we look at NUSHS, a child who is exceptionally talented in Maths & Science and less so in languages would have a higher chance of being admitted to DSA as opposed to RGS/NYGH/RI/HCI, which look more at all-rounders (assuming you DSA through general academics). NUSHS, like SOTA and SSP, is not for everyone by virtue of their specialization. They can't cater for an Arts-inclined student like me, for example.
Because of their specialty in Maths and Science, it makes more sense to do their own admissions tests rather than rely on PSLE central posting, which is a better measurement of how all-rounded a student is academically, not necessarily his/her talent in Maths & Science. Same basis for universities, especially Singapore/ UK. Grades only tell you so much about an applicant.
Ultimately, who cares if your school is \"elite\" or not, \"big deal\" or not? I come from \"elite\" schools and that doesn't make me any better than my peers. As long as the school has a good track record of producing students who are academically sound, of good character, and is able to fulfill the child's interests, it's fine. -
WeiHan:
My younger DD is only 1 weeks (discounting 1st week orientation) in NUSHS and I'm already in :salute: and a bit :siao: by the kind of Maths/Science curriculum the school is ditching out.What I have to say is that NUSH has really imported a model from famous US, England and Israel's specialised maths and science schools for its curriculum. So it is not fair to say that it is just marketing. It really has the resource and curriculum modelled after reknowned schools.
Having said that, I'll also say that it may too early to call for its success. I'll judge its success when it has produced some world-reknowned scentists and mathematicians some years later.
It is not your average school and the Math n science programme are indeed very much accelerated. DD said by end of year 2 class Mentor(teacher) said the class can take 'O\" level E/A maths exam liao..
I guess in another 2 months, DD will be catching up with certain topics my triple science Sec 3 'O' level DD has only just covered. In Biology, they are doing a special module on Ecosystem module with jargon like Energy transfer and thermodynamic of food chain.. cheem stuff .
As a matter of fact, I always feel my 'O' level Express DD sec 1/2 is kind of honeymoon stage (waste of time actually) ..actual learning of Math/Science only started in Sec 3 and Sec 4. Technically, year 2 student in NUSH can take 'O' level for maths, physics, biology and Chemistry. In a way, my younger DD would be a great source of help for older sister for \"O\" level examination.
DD also said GEP students will feel much at ease with the style teaching /JC methods and in particular the habits of note taking ( some mainstream frens :? ) and things like filing worksheet etc. -
WeiHan:
Indeed the strength of NUSHS is its affiliation to NUS and most year 5/6 students are actually embarking on Undergraduate module studies way beyond the typical IP 'A' level schools.What I have to say is that NUSH has really imported a model from famous US, England and Israel's specialised maths and science schools for its curriculum. So it is not fair to say that it is just marketing. It really has the resource and curriculum modelled after reknowned schools.
Having said that, I'll also say that it may too early to call for its success. I'll judge its success when it has produced some world-reknowned scentists and mathematicians some years later.
In the areas of Maths, Science, Engineering and computing course in NUS/NTU/SMU, NUSHS Diploma has the obvious advantage as compare to 'A' level. This same advantage also applies to application and scholarship to well-known universities in US, UK and Japan. NUSH Dip is much in demand. Go to listen to Dr Hang during open house talk in April 2011 for info.
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MumSAH:
Please quote me one negative thing I said NUSHS, other than that I do not see a track record? Did I not say that they had a brave mission, and a good strategy? Do you disagree that they, by intent or not, they have pitched (aka marketed) themselves into a real sweet spot? Mind you, they have already changed their name at least once, which shows you that certainly they are sensitive to the environment and moving with the sentiments of customers (i.e. you, the parents). How else did such an upstart so rapidly build up a strong academic core? They had no business doing it, but they have managed.I 100% agreed with you! It is individual interest, no point saying all the negative things abt another school, please consider the feelings of the kids who studied there! Didnt we as a adult, should encourage them instead of keep saying all the negative things about the school.
:celebrate:
What I am skeptical about is whether all this really translates into some greater end result than the traditional IPs. Yes, they select for the absolute best in Maths and Science, and they top the Maths and Science competitions, surprise surprise! Will NUSHS develop the leaders of the future? Well? Where is the track record of that? It has not happened yet, so I say, wait and see. Have they a programme that cuts it in the long term? I say, wait and see.
That is my opinion on the matter, do I not have the right to say that in a thread that discusses relative merits of school systems? If your child has the maturity and confidence to be in such a high performing school, why should he be adversely affected by a random post in a specialised forum by a faceless stranger? Or is it you that is being affected?
Sheesh..... -
Please.....you affect me????....dont ever ever have that thoughts...lol... Your style and the way you....hahaha Up to you.... Again ..... Dun HAVE tht thoughts, no one here, be it the kids and parents wil EVER be affected by what you write...btw, did you always think so highly of yourself???lol
3Boys:
:lol:
Please quote me one negative thing I said NUSHS, other than that I do not see a track record? Did I not say that they had a brave mission, and a good strategy? Do you disagree that they, by intent or not, they have pitched (aka marketed) themselves into a real sweet spot? Mind you, they have already changed their name at least once, which shows you that certainly they are sensitive to the environment and moving with the sentiments of customers (i.e. you, the parents). How else did such an upstart so rapidly build up a strong academic core? They had no business doing it, but they have managed.MumSAH:
I 100% agreed with you! It is individual interest, no point saying all the negative things abt another school, please consider the feelings of the kids who studied there! Didnt we as a adult, should encourage them instead of keep saying all the negative things about the school.
:celebrate:
What I am skeptical about is whether all this really translates into some greater end result than the traditional IPs. Yes, they select for the absolute best in Maths and Science, and they top the Maths and Science competitions, surprise surprise! Will NUSHS develop the leaders of the future? Well? Where is the track record of that? It has not happened yet, so I say, wait and see. Have they a programme that cuts it in the long term? I say, wait and see.
That is my opinion on the matter, do I not have the right to say that in a thread that discusses relative merits of school systems? If your child has the maturity and confidence to be in such a high performing school, why should he be adversely affected by a random post in a specialised forum by a faceless stranger? Or is it you that is being affected?
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3Boys:
To be more specific,they should be producing leaders in scientific and technological research. If they were to churn out lawyers instead like RGS does, I'll call the school a failure.
What I am skeptical about is whether all this really translates into some greater end result than the traditional IPs. Yes, they select for the absolute best in Maths and Science, and they top the Maths and Science competitions, surprise surprise! Will NUSHS develop the leaders of the future? Well? Where is the track record of that? It has not happened yet, so I say, wait and see. Have they a programme that cuts it in the long term? I say, wait and see. -
walterp:
Actually, the H3 modules in mainstream A level system are the university Year1 courses. Accelerating course work itself is not sufficient as training for breeding scientists. Scientific research needs alot of perseverance and i hope that is what NUHS is instilling in these budding young scientists.
Indeed the strength of NUSHS is its affiliation to NUS and most year 5/6 students are actually embarking on Undergraduate module studies way beyond the typical IP 'A' level schools.WeiHan:
What I have to say is that NUSH has really imported a model from famous US, England and Israel's specialised maths and science schools for its curriculum. So it is not fair to say that it is just marketing. It really has the resource and curriculum modelled after reknowned schools.
Having said that, I'll also say that it may too early to call for its success. I'll judge its success when it has produced some world-reknowned scentists and mathematicians some years later.
In the areas of Maths, Science, Engineering and computing course in NUS/NTU/SMU, NUSHS Diploma has the obvious advantage as compare to 'A' level. This same advantage also applies to application and scholarship to well-known universities in US, UK and Japan. NUSH Dip is much in demand. Go to listen to Dr Hang during open house talk in April 2011 for info. -
walterp:
Indeed the strength of NUSHS is its affiliation to NUS and most year 5/6 students are actually embarking on Undergraduate module studies way beyond the typical IP 'A' level schools.
'A' level students also start taking H3 subjects in NUS/NTU/SMU in JC2. Similarly, NUS High students who did well enough also start taking NUS modules in Year 6. I think the key difference is, highly talented NUS High students (in Math/Science) can start taking the modules as early as Year 3/4 (or even earlier).waltrep:
I disagree with this, I don't think 'A' level students have the disadvantage there. I hope we will agree to disagree here. And when I listen to any heads of school \"marketing\" their own schools, I will surely take it with a pinch of salt.In the areas of Maths, Science, Engineering and computing course in NUS/NTU/SMU, NUSHS Diploma has the obvious advantage as compare to 'A' level. This same advantage also applies to application and scholarship to well-known universities in US, UK and Japan. NUSH Dip is much in demand. Go to listen to Dr Hang during open house talk in April 2011 for info.
My son is in NUS High Year 4 and I believe the school suits him rather well, but I don't think it is suitable for everyone. Some areas are lacking, when compared with other mainstream schools. That is expected, since it is a specialised school, and it is a rather young school. I have heard of students (very, very few, I think can be counted with 1 hand) who switched to RI after 2 years with NUS High. -
To be more specific,they should be producing leaders in scientific and technological research. If they were to churn out lawyers instead like RGS does, I’ll call the school a failure.[/quote]
To graduate Year 5/6 students must have a core Majors of 1 Maths / 2 Science majors and 3 options which can be a Science/Humanities/Arts.
Hence NUSHS graduates still can take business/economics/art/law apart from hard core math/science/engineering/Medicine/Pharnacy etc.
You can’t labelled potential lawyers and business leaders which have first class math & science education a failure. After all we have known of many famous lawyers/doctors from elite school who give up practising law and medicine after a while to be bakers and chef just to pursue/follow their own passion.
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3Boys:
:lol: why u get urself into hot soup again?.... How else did such an upstart so rapidly build up a strong academic core? They had no business doing it, but they have managed.
What I am skeptical about is whether all this really translates into some greater end result than the traditional IPs. ...
NUSH is not a random upstart. It is deliberate part of a greater scheme by MOE/garmen to develop these potentials for d future. Look also at what A*STAR n science/bio hubs r doing. :celebrate:
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