Stay in Secondary School or go for IP?
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nani
We are at the wrong frequency. I am referring to jc level.
For sec 2 - IP is more of a decent PSLE T-score plus good sec1/2 results and a contributing member of a cca as nothing to show for leadership as well as clear a selection test/interview.
Outstanding cca/cip records- Exco member of student council or/chairman’vice-chairman of cca, winner of a national competition, national representative in sports or arts, international medallist in maths/science olympias etc plus at least 150 cip hours. -
Would you transfer your child upon finishing sec 4 from a top IP sch of (DW choice) to the JC of another top IP school (DH choice) so that the child could enjoy the best of both worlds?
Regards. -
emerald:
Would you transfer your child upon finishing sec 4 from a top IP sch of (DW choice) to the JC of another top IP school (DH choice) so that the child could enjoy the best of both worlds?
Regards.
The answer can be yes or no depending on your circumstances.
Yes if you are not considering a top end scholarship and for the reasons outlined by you.
Yes is also applicable if you are transferring from RI to HCI Humanities programme and aims to study in Oxbridge as a PSC scholar.
No from HCI to RI as much more difficult to land a top leadership position in RI vs-a-vs HCI as you are likely to be out voted by girls/guys from RGS/RI. HCI has shown to be more inclusive in this area.
Over the last ten years, only one student outside RI/RGS family(junior high) managed to win the President scholarship compared to 3 for HCI even though the latter produces less President scholars.
If you scrutinise carefully, there are a total of 8 President scholars that have emerged from non IP schools over the last ten years and none of them had studied in RI. -
INNOVATE:
Thanks so much for your valuable info.
The answer can be yes or no depending on your circumstances.
Yes if you are not considering a top end scholarship and for the reasons outlined by you.
Yes is also applicable if you are transferring from RI to HCI Humanities programme and aims to study in Oxbridge as a PSC scholar.
No from HCI to RI as much more difficult to land a top leadership position in RI vs-a-vs HCI as you are likely to be out voted by girls/guys from RGS/RI. HCI has shown to be more inclusive in this area.
Over the last ten years, only one student outside RI/RGS family(junior high) managed to win the President scholarship compared to 3 for HCI even though the latter produces less President scholars.
If you scrutinise carefully, there are a total of 8 President scholars that have emerged from non IP schools over the last ten years and none of them had studied in RI.
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INNOVATE:
Don't quite understand you. Are you saying that 8 president scholars were from non-IP schools and of these none were from RI? As RI is an IP school, it goes that none of these 8 would be from RI right? Or am I misunderstanding you?emerald:
Would you transfer your child upon finishing sec 4 from a top IP sch of (DW choice) to the JC of another top IP school (DH choice) so that the child could enjoy the best of both worlds?
Regards.
The answer can be yes or no depending on your circumstances.
Yes if you are not considering a top end scholarship and for the reasons outlined by you.
Yes is also applicable if you are transferring from RI to HCI Humanities programme and aims to study in Oxbridge as a PSC scholar.
No from HCI to RI as much more difficult to land a top leadership position in RI vs-a-vs HCI as you are likely to be out voted by girls/guys from RGS/RI. HCI has shown to be more inclusive in this area.
Over the last ten years, only one student outside RI/RGS family(junior high) managed to win the President scholarship compared to 3 for HCI even though the latter produces less President scholars.
If you scrutinise carefully, there are a total of 8 President scholars that have emerged from non IP schools over the last ten years and none of them had studied in RI. -
Don worry abt the president scholars, the politics behind the selection is complex. The elites and underdogs will be represented.
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jtoh:
Don't quite understand you. Are you saying that 8 president scholars were from non-IP schools and of these none were from RI? As RI is an IP school, it goes that none of these 8 would be from RI right? Or am I misunderstanding you?[/quote]INNOVATE:
[quote=\"emerald\"]Would you transfer your child upon finishing sec 4 from a top IP sch of (DW choice) to the JC of another top IP school (DH choice) so that the child could enjoy the best of both worlds?
Regards.
The answer can be yes or no depending on your circumstances.
Yes if you are not considering a top end scholarship and for the reasons outlined by you.
Yes is also applicable if you are transferring from RI to HCI Humanities programme and aims to study in Oxbridge as a PSC scholar.
No from HCI to RI as much more difficult to land a top leadership position in RI vs-a-vs HCI as you are likely to be out voted by girls/guys from RGS/RI. HCI has shown to be more inclusive in this area.
Over the last ten years, only one student outside RI/RGS family(junior high) managed to win the President scholarship compared to 3 for HCI even though the latter produces less President scholars.
If you scrutinise carefully, there are a total of 8 President scholars that have emerged from non IP schools over the last ten years and none of them had studied in RI.
You didn't misunderstand me, its just that i know the system better.
Of the 8 President scholars, two each were from Cat high, MGS and SCGS, and one each from ACSI and Cedar(up to sec2). They attended jcs namely: ACJC, CJC, HCI, NJC and VJC.
Obviously, the above students had chosen not to study in RI(senior high) for obvious reasons. -
INNOVATE:
Don't quite understand you. Are you saying that 8 president scholars were from non-IP schools and of these none were from RI? As RI is an IP school, it goes that none of these 8 would be from RI right? Or am I misunderstanding you?jtoh:
[quote=\"INNOVATE\"]
The answer can be yes or no depending on your circumstances.
Yes if you are not considering a top end scholarship and for the reasons outlined by you.
Yes is also applicable if you are transferring from RI to HCI Humanities programme and aims to study in Oxbridge as a PSC scholar.
No from HCI to RI as much more difficult to land a top leadership position in RI vs-a-vs HCI as you are likely to be out voted by girls/guys from RGS/RI. HCI has shown to be more inclusive in this area.
Over the last ten years, only one student outside RI/RGS family(junior high) managed to win the President scholarship compared to 3 for HCI even though the latter produces less President scholars.
If you scrutinise carefully, there are a total of 8 President scholars that have emerged from non IP schools over the last ten years and none of them had studied in RI.
You didn't misunderstand me, its just that i know the system better.
Of the 8 President scholars, two each were from Cat high, MGS and SCGS, and one each from ACSI and Cedar(up to sec2). They attended jcs namely: ACJC, CJC, HCI, NJC and VJC.
Obviously, the above students had chosen not to study in RI(senior high) for obvious reasons.[/quote]Ok, so what you're saying is that the 8 president's scholars who were from non-IP secondary schools went to JCs other than RIJC. Thanks for clarifying. -
jtoh:
Ok, so what you're saying is that the 8 president's scholars who were from non-IP secondary schools went to JCs other than RIJC. Thanks for clarifying.[/quote]and the 8 is out of how many over the same period of time ? and IP school has been around for how many years only ?INNOVATE:
[quote=\"jtoh\"]
Don't quite understand you. Are you saying that 8 president scholars were from non-IP schools and of these none were from RI? As RI is an IP school, it goes that none of these 8 would be from RI right? Or am I misunderstanding you?
You didn't misunderstand me, its just that i know the system better.
Of the 8 President scholars, two each were from Cat high, MGS and SCGS, and one each from ACSI and Cedar(up to sec2). They attended jcs namely: ACJC, CJC, HCI, NJC and VJC.
Obviously, the above students had chosen not to study in RI(senior high) for obvious reasons.
had not studied in RI meant had chosen not to study there meh ? what kind of deduction is this ? I dare say some of them did not study there was because they could not get in but determined to work hard wherever they went and proven themselves worthy .....
don't think any school dare claim they are the exclusive source of president scholars ... and also in recent years the criteria for emphasis on selection of president scholar has been shifted to focus on certain sectors ..... not sure how true is this hear-say ?? any one please comment ! -
verykiasu2010:
and the 8 is out of how many over the same period of time ? and IP school has been around for how many years only ?
Ok, so what you're saying is that the 8 president's scholars who were from non-IP secondary schools went to JCs other than RIJC. Thanks for clarifying.jtoh:
[quote=\"INNOVATE\"]
You didn't misunderstand me, its just that i know the system better.
Of the 8 President scholars, two each were from Cat high, MGS and SCGS, and one each from ACSI and Cedar(up to sec2). They attended jcs namely: ACJC, CJC, HCI, NJC and VJC.
Obviously, the above students had chosen not to study in RI(senior high) for obvious reasons.
had not studied in RI meant had chosen not to study there meh ? what kind of deduction is this ? I dare say some of them did not study there was because they could not get in but determined to work hard wherever they went and proven themselves worthy .....
don't think any school dare claim they are the exclusive source of president scholars ... and also in recent years the criteria for emphasis on selection of president scholar has been shifted to focus on certain sectors ..... not sure how true is this hear-say ?? any one please comment ![/quote]
Your message is contradictory. On one hand you have claimed that some of them could't make it to RI cause of their 0-level results, whereas on the other hand, thru their hardwork other jcs are able to mould some of these students into President scholars as if giving the impression that their system are superior to RI. We all know that getting a top scolarship cannot be based on just hardwork alone as innate talents and qualities are equally important. My belief is that if any of these students were to appeal to RI, they would get accepted due to close competitive merits vs-a-vs other successful jae applicants. Outstanding examples two RGS girls crossed over to HCI humanities in recent years had won the President scholarship in years 2003 and 2008. So far no NGHS girl or HCI boy had won this award when crossover to RI.
Selection of PSC scholars has always been much more than academics and outstanding ccas and cip records. The commission is looking for candiates who are willing to serve thats why various tests and interviews are conducted including psychometric test and an interview with a psychologist to weed out opportunists. Of course the system is not entirely perfect cause no system can be 100% perfect. The best of the PSC scholars are then shorlisted again for interviews to be considered for President scholar. This organ of state has shown to be very inclusive and they base their selection entirely on a candiate's total merits and not the candiate's background or which jc he/her is from.
For our ablest students from middle income families who are willing to serve, getting a scholarship is the only wat to attending a top notch university overseas.
Obviously, our top cream 0-level grads must learn to position themselves to win such awards.
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