P1 Chinese - General Discussion

[Callie Tan]

Champion:

janet_lee88:

[quote=\"Daddy D\"]
cool.... but I thought the Pri1 textbooks don't have chinese characters... how to expect the kids the know... or they have other supplementary notes?

I have problems teaching daughter hanyu pinyin spelling every week.
P1 textbooks do have chinese characters...at the end of every chapter, there is a box which has the characters + hanyu pinyin which the child has to know...something called either 识认字.

My DD2 who is K2 this year and is having Chinese enrichment every Saturday. The teacher started to introduce hanyu pinyin in week 5, Term 1 :shock: I was like,:Huh, so fast?\" So when I checked with the teacher, she told me that learning hanyu pinyin is v challenging for a K2 kid especially when they just managed how to write Chinese Character words. So she is introducing them slowly so that the kids will not be scare off ....So, guess I have to start learning the \"a,o,i,e,u\" & the 声调 all over again lioa :lol:[/quote]Yes Champion, it is true and important to start early but slowly... My girl's K2 chinese teacher told me that. This is because it is a totally new concept and the kids will get mixed up between hanyu pinyin and phonics... and given the fact that hanyu pinyin is so important in P1 first semester, better kiasu a bit to start early.

[Daddy D]

Callie Tan:

Daddy D, may I know how old is your child? The norm is chinese characters are taught from N2 onwards and of course in K1 and K2. Hanyu pinyin will start only in K2. By P1, the kids should already have some general concepts and ideas about hanyu pinyin...

My gal is PCF K2 now... don't see any hanyu pinyin homework though... only writing of chinese characters.
Her SHHK materials also don't have hanyu pinyin... all chinese...
hmmm.... maybe in the upcoming terms?

[plum-cake]

Daddy

Callie Tan:

Daddy D, may I know how old is your child? The norm is chinese characters are taught from N2 onwards and of course in K1 and K2. Hanyu pinyin will start only in K2. By P1, the kids should already have some general concepts and ideas about hanyu pinyin...

My gal is PCF K2 now... don't see any hanyu pinyin homework though... only writing of chinese characters.
Her SHHK materials also don't have hanyu pinyin... all chinese...
hmmm.... maybe in the upcoming terms?

Hi Daddy D

PCF kindergarten branches differ from each other. my kiddo went to one of them. there they taught her as a supplementary class. like a p1 hypy prep.course. they have classes in RC also.

[janet88]

We went to IMM. My legs carried me to Popular.


Picked up some books for son’s CL compo. There is this newly published book for Upper Primary 作文 which has 2 model answers…one is average while the other has 成语，好词好句 and some other creative phrases to spice it up. The other Chinese title is for P5/6 Oral preparation based on 2010 format.

Other than that, I didn’t get any other assessment book…really controlled myself just now…get what I need.

[Callie Tan]

Daddy

Callie Tan:

Daddy D, may I know how old is your child? The norm is chinese characters are taught from N2 onwards and of course in K1 and K2. Hanyu pinyin will start only in K2. By P1, the kids should already have some general concepts and ideas about hanyu pinyin...

My gal is PCF K2 now... don't see any hanyu pinyin homework though... only writing of chinese characters.
Her SHHK materials also don't have hanyu pinyin... all chinese...
hmmm.... maybe in the upcoming terms?

You can check with the chinese teacher on when they will be introducing hanyu pinying to the kids....at least you have some ideas. I have heard of some kindergartens don't do hanyu pinying at all but I think it's very minority lah. In such cases then the parents may have to intervene

[janet88]

If I didn't remember wrongly, daughter had very tough ting xie in K2. The ting xie were in sentences and she had to learn to write every single character totally crazy.

[allseasons]

Hi all,


Side track a little bit. I found this in my DS chinese textbook for P1 when revising with him. Can someone help me with this pinyin and help me with explanation:

碰 过 来, 碰 过 去.
The pinyin on the textbook it is written like this: peng4 guo lai, peng4 guo qu.

I told my son it might be printing error, in my opinion it is supposed to be: peng4 guo4 lai2, peng4 guo4 chi4.

But I asked my son to check with the teacher. The teacher said, what it printed on the book is the correct one, so it is: peng4 guo(neutral tone) lai (neutral tone), peng4 guo (neutral tone) chi (neutral tone).

Why? I really don't understand.... :?

[janet88]

allseasons:

碰 过 来, 碰 过 去.
The pinyin on the textbook it is written like this: peng4 guo lai, peng4 guo qu.

I told my son it might be printing error, in my opinion it is supposed to be: peng4 guo4 lai2, peng4 guo4 chi4.

But I asked my son to check with the teacher. The teacher said, what it printed on the book is the correct one, so it is: peng4 guo(neutral tone) lai (neutral tone), peng4 guo (neutral tone) chi (neutral tone).

Why? I really don't understand.... :?

Yes, I've got this problem with textbook too.
过 in this case is 轻声. Last week when I was teaching daughter 听写, there was this 词语 '洗手'...both of these characters are read as xi3 shou3 although we read 洗 as xi2 shou3.

[Callie Tan]

janet_lee88:

allseasons:

碰 过 来, 碰 过 去.
The pinyin on the textbook it is written like this: peng4 guo lai, peng4 guo qu.

I told my son it might be printing error, in my opinion it is supposed to be: peng4 guo4 lai2, peng4 guo4 chi4.

But I asked my son to check with the teacher. The teacher said, what it printed on the book is the correct one, so it is: peng4 guo(neutral tone) lai (neutral tone), peng4 guo (neutral tone) chi (neutral tone).

Why? I really don't understand.... :?

Yes, I've got this problem with textbook too.
过 in this case is 轻声. Last week when I was teaching daughter 听写, there was this 词语 '洗手'...both of these characters are read as xi3 shou3 although we read 洗 as xi2 shou3.

I am not too sure about the 碰 过 来, 碰 过 去... but for the '洗手' read as xi2 shou3, this is one of the rules for hanyu pinyin.

[allseasons]

Mee too.. don't know how to explain to my son why the tone change.. so I just asked him to memorize..